Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[RobertHammer]

I haven't played FM..but I think they deserve it..
why? (MY OPINNION )
I AM NOT GRAPHICS visual MANIAC..here probably GT wins..
but...I like car selection in FM ( YT CAR LISTS )
LEAKED LIST OF CARS ( spierling, amr pro...etc )
gt has 19 official tracks ? with updates till today
Fm already had 20 at launch .. now probably more..they had 2 updates with tracks already...they will probably gonna get more...
for GT I HAVE A BAD FEELING..

JUST MY OPINNION..but I am not gonna buy xbox just to play forza..

I can get the car list who prefers modern latest roadcars but tracks?

GT has much more than Forza - maybe if you like oval tracks more in Forza LOL

Only track that i am jealous from Forza is Silverstone

 

[MroczMR]

official tracks?? real world tracks...
not fictional...

Ok... You are aware that

• Maple Valley
• Hakone
• Grand Oak Raceway
• Eaglerock Speedway.

Are all fictional?

That make it less than GT has if you really care only about real tracks.

 

[atfmarko]

For my taste as long as the track is interesting to drive, I don't care if it is real or not.

with that..I agree!!!
but for my taste only 2 are great...where I really enjoy ( kyoto and sainte croix b layout )...
others I only did to gold circuit experience..
again it's just my OPINNION...I know people love those..and I am happy for them..but in my eyes only 2 are really really good

Ok... You are aware that

• Maple Valley
• Hakone
• Grand Oak Raceway
• Eaglerock Speedway.

Are all fictional?

as I said..haven't played fm..I MAY BE WRONG!
it's just my OPINNION

 

[MroczMR]

as I said..haven't played fm..I MAY BE WRONG!
it's just my OPINNION

I understand and deeply respect your opinion.

But that was actually fact. That Forza has less tracks overall and less official tracks.

 

[CTRL Garage]

I haven't played FM..but I think they deserve it..
why? (MY OPINNION )
I AM NOT GRAPHICS visual MANIAC..here probably GT wins..
but...I like car selection in FM ( YT CAR LISTS )
LEAKED LIST OF CARS ( spierling, amr pro...etc )
gt has 19 official tracks ? with updates till today
Fm already had 20 at launch .. now probably more..they had 2 updates with tracks already...they will probably gonna get more...
for GT I HAVE A BAD FEELING..

JUST MY OPINNION..but I am not gonna buy xbox just to play forza..

Forza Motorsport 2023 had 16 "real" tracks at launch
Gt7 had 17 "real" tracks at launch

it's just my OPINNION

To be frank... we don't care about your OPINNION if it has zero evidence to back it up

 

[atfmarko]

Forza Motorsport 2023 had 16 "real" tracks at launch
Gt7 had 17 "real" tracks at launch


To be frank... we don't care about your OPINNION if it has zero evidence to back it up

fair enough!

 

[Ande3200]

Silhouttes tomorrow maybe or sunday, if not its pretty safe to say december will be skipped, but i think a december update is very possible,

 

[RobertHammer]

Silhouttes tomorrow maybe or sunday, if not its pretty safe to say december will be skipped, but i think a december update is very possible,

I think there might be a small update just to enable christmas music

 

[Nakano219]

I think there might be a small update just to enable christmas music

Eh, I'd expect that to more likely just be a date check when loading the music rather than something they have to manually enable each year.

 

[GlamFM]

Eh, I'd expect that to more likely just be a date check when loading the music rather than something they have to manually enable each year.

It’s how they’ve done it in the past though. Same in GTS.

Christmas begins and ends with an update.

 

[MroczMR]

Yeah. I checked this and indeed last year "Christmass" Update was on December 15th. It was pretty neat update with 5 cars. I hope we will get one this year, it could be lesser update after SPEC2, but at least 3-4 cars and some events would be welcome for holiday break .

 

[RACECAR]

Silhouttes tomorrow maybe or sunday, if not its pretty safe to say december will be skipped, but i think a december update is very possible,

What has you so convinced their will be one?

Jesus Christ.

Oh gee wiz, there goes that little joy you had earlier. Go ahead and convince me that Baldur's Gate 3 winning so many awards, as good a game as it may be, wasn't the result of the publisher throwing the most amount of money to haul so many home. Go ahead and tell me Alan Wake 2 winning 2 awards wasn't because publisher Epic payed for that to happen. That's what happens with award shows, its not exactly a secret.

 

[Fezzik]

Go ahead and convince me that Baldur's Gate 3 winning so many awards, as good a game as it may be, wasn't the result of the publisher throwing the most amount of money to haul so many home.

I think Larian, as an independent publisher, would've been massively outbid by Nintendo/Sony/etc if the awards were for sale (even with their Tencent minority backing).

 

[GlamFM]

What has you so convinced their will be one?

Oh gee wiz, there goes that little joy you had earlier. Go ahead and convince me that Baldur's Gate 3 winning so many awards, as good a game as it may be, wasn't the result of the publisher throwing the most amount of money to haul so many home. Go ahead and tell me Alan Wake 2 winning 2 awards wasn't because publisher Epic payed for that to happen. Its not exactly a secret.

Just to be sure - what shape do you think earth has?

 

[Ande3200]

What has you so convinced their will be one?

Oh gee wiz, there goes that little joy you had earlier. Go ahead and convince me that Baldur's Gate 3 winning so many awards, as good a game as it may be, wasn't the result of the publisher throwing the most amount of money to haul so many home. Go ahead and tell me Alan Wake 2 winning 2 awards wasn't because publisher Epic payed for that to happen. That's what happens with award shows, its not exactly a secret.

Most years have a update with new cars for the chrismas period, to really celebrate the holidays, i cant confirm if there will be an update or not, we will have to wait and see over this weekend,

Outside of gt7 i have really enjoyed resident evil 4 remake and currently playing Alan wake 2 and its fantastic

 

[RACECAR]

Just to be sure - what shape do you think earth has?

Its round (Spherical even). Were you expecting me to say its flat like so many that apparently ignore the plentiful data available?

I think Larian, as an independent publisher, would've been massively outbid by Nintendo/Sony/etc if the awards were for sale (even with their Tencent minority backing).

Perhaps not Larian themselves...but as we both know, Tencent isn't exactly small. Perhaps that's why Warframe (Another game made by a studio under Tencent) wasn't nominated this year: Because 2023 was all about Baldurs Gate 3. Worth pointing out also that it was Tencent that outbid Sony FOR aquiring Digital Extremes and Sony isn't tiny themselves.

 

[GlamFM]

Perhaps not Larian themselves...but as we both know, Tencent isn't exactly small. Perhaps that's why Warframe (Another game made by a studio under Tencent) wasn't nominated this year: Because 2023 was all about Baldurs Gate 3.

There really is no end to your conspiracy nonsense is there?

 

[RACECAR]

There really is no end to your conspiracy nonsense is there?

And you have some factual evidence to cite or prove me wrong as opposed to lazily resorting to responding with "Conspiracy" and the poo emoji?

 

[GlamFM]

And you have some factual evidence to cite or prove me wrong as opposed to lazily resorting to responding with "Conspiracy"? Its not exactly a secret.

I think you really have it mixed up who has to bring evidence here for their outlandish claims.

I have this, what do you have aside from made up nonsense and baseless "It´s not exactly a secret" claims?

Voting Jury | The Game Awards

Meet the distinguished voting jury for The Game Awards

thegameawards.com

 

[Clinton Ducks]

Just to be sure - what shape do you think earth has?

Prove otherwise

 

[RACECAR]

I think you really have it mixed up who has to bring evidence here for their outlandish claims.

I have this, what do you have aside from made up nonsense and baseless "It´s not exactly a secret" claims?

Voting Jury | The Game Awards

Meet the distinguished voting jury for The Game Awards

thegameawards.com

Because that totally proves they don't do it.

Since this is about Award shows, let me demonstrate with two of the biggest examples: Look, here's the Oscars:

https://www.oscars.org/oscars/voting

They show the voting process and eligibility. Surely they don't just hand out awards just because the studios and such try all sorts of stuff with money. Oh wait, they do. Quite abit in fact.

What about the Golden Globes then:

https://goldenglobes.com/award-rules-and-entry-forms/

Surely they don't do that either...except, they totally do that.

And look, all those were in the open readily available to source (Which makes them not secret)


So again...You REALLY think that doesn't happen just because you don't see it on that page? You really think Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Ubisoft, EA, Epic or any company with deep enough pockets themselves don't do their own campaigning to influence all these outlets?

 

[GlamFM]

You really think Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Ubisoft, EA, Epic or any company with deep enough pockets themselves don't do their own campaigning to influence all these outlets?

Starting to move goalposts a bit there huh? Going from outright buying awards to influencing outlets. (Which honestly I believe you are also wrong about)

Does't change much, but still.

We're also not talking about the Oscars here.


Here's a thing about conspiracy theories. People who believe in them don't think they are conspiracy theories at all.

Flat earthers don't think: "I'm gonna believe in the conspiracy theory that the earth is flat", they think: "of course the world is flat - it's not exactly a secret".


You got it wrong buddy and I say this with conviction.


Anyway this discussion has run its course and never had a place in this forum to begin with.

Let's move on.



GT7 - great game. Especially on PS5 and in VR.

 

[Nebuc72]

Because that totally proves they don't do it.

Since this is about Award shows, let me demonstrate with two of the biggest examples: Look, here's the Oscars:

https://www.oscars.org/oscars/voting

They show the voting process and eligibility. Surely they don't just hand out awards just because the studios and such try all sorts of stuff with money. Oh wait, they do. Quite abit in fact.

What about the Golden Globes then:

https://goldenglobes.com/award-rules-and-entry-forms/

Surely they don't do that either...except, they totally do that.

And look, all those were in the open readily available to source (Which makes them not secret)


So again...You REALLY think that doesn't happen just because you don't see it on that page? You really think Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Ubisoft, EA, Epic or any company with deep enough pockets themselves don't do their own campaigning to influence all these outlets?

I think you might need to go outside more? You seem very heated over a made up conspiracy about a games awards show. I don't think that's healthy.

 

[Clinton Ducks]

You really think Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Ubisoft, EA, Epic or any company with deep enough pockets themselves don't do their own campaigning to influence all these outlets?

Campaigning is very different to outright bribery, which seemed to be what you were implying earlier?

 

[Achika_Kuonji]

Do they stop for Christmas in Japan?

(Genuine question I have no idea!)

They don't stop for Christmas in Japan. Most Japanese have holidays from Dec. 29 to Jan. 3.

 

[VinylRichie]

Because that totally proves they don't do it.

Since this is about Award shows, let me demonstrate with two of the biggest examples: Look, here's the Oscars:

https://www.oscars.org/oscars/voting

They show the voting process and eligibility. Surely they don't just hand out awards just because the studios and such try all sorts of stuff with money. Oh wait, they do. Quite abit in fact.

What about the Golden Globes then:

https://goldenglobes.com/award-rules-and-entry-forms/

Surely they don't do that either...except, they totally do that.

And look, all those were in the open readily available to source (Which makes them not secret)


So again...You REALLY think that doesn't happen just because you don't see it on that page? You really think Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Ubisoft, EA, Epic or any company with deep enough pockets themselves don't do their own campaigning to influence all these outlets?

What is the point of claiming they just won the awards because of money, when it’s about an absolute hit that got praised by critics and players as well?

 

[Gingerale]

And you have some factual evidence to cite or prove me wrong as opposed to lazily resorting to responding with "Conspiracy" and the poo emoji?

Lol, you state that the game awards are bought and somehow we have to prove things.

 

[RACECAR]

Starting to move goalposts a bit there huh? Going from outright buying awards to influencing outlets.

Except that's what I was saying before:

Not sure where you think I made a "Conspiracy theory", I made that suggestion because out of those two games nominated, GT has the better chance by default due to Kaz and his position at Sony (while Naughty Dog has nowhere near the clout). Its not conspiracy to suggest that their may be some politicing or "Persuasion" going on. You're really gonna tell me the press of ANY kind isn't swayed by companies?

At most, my latest response was sloppy and not correctly communicated but I've hardly moved anything. I get disagreeing with me but the "Conspiracy" label I keep getting for saying this is hilarious considering I gave two links that demonstrate this elsewhere.

Campaigning is very different to outright bribery, which seemed to be what you were implying earlier?

As stated above, my point wasn't communicated correctly so that's on me (Its one of those few things where I get so passionate, I get abit sloppy) but my main point is that like so many award shows, talent doesn't win these awards so much as money does.

I think you might need to go outside more?

I go outside quite abit actually. How else would I have my hour long walks around my airport and walk my dogs?

What is the point of claiming they just won the awards because of money, when it’s about an absolute hit that got praised by critics and players as well?

Wasn't about the fact that they won. As I've been saying, the point I was making was that like every other Award show, its not the talent that decides who wins but how effective the respective publisher (or company over them) is at spending money to swoon these influencers and Journalists in their favor (which in turn makes Award shows hollow and pointless). Somehow, saying this (Despite posting clear proof) makes me a Conspiracy theorist.

Lol, you state that the game awards are bought and somehow we have to prove things.

And I showed through those links how Companies don't just wait for a bunch of people to vote and hope their product gets nominated and wins to prove my point about Award shows.

Not sure how this is hard to believe.

 

[Famine]

I don't think anyone's ever claimed the TGAs as the last bastion of integrity, but I'm not seeing how FM winning accessibility (deserved) or sports/racing (weaaaaaak year and rivals; I voted for HWU2T), or BG3 winning overall (against Yet Another Mario Game, Gritty Noir Thing 2, Copy Paste Japanese Adventure, Copy Paste Japanese Adventure, and Yet Another Spiderman Game) is any more of an indication of brown envelopes than gaming "journalism" usually is.

In any case, it's just an advert platform, with occasional trophies and baffled special guests.

Why even is Sports and Racing just one category anyway, when there's like five different esports awards (none of which went to sports)?

 

[Gingerale]

And I showed through those links how Companies don't just wait for a bunch of people to vote and hope their product gets nominated and wins to prove my point about Award shows.

Not sure how this is hard to believe.

So that is 'factual evidence' you think?