Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[RACECAR]

I would very much like it if Forza Motorsport to be released on PS5. Maybe that would give PD the kick up the arse they need.

That would assume that Microsoft would even be willing to put THIER flagship racing franchise on a rival console (IF they would even want to)

 

[PaMu1337]

I would very much like it if Forza Motorsport to be released on PS5. Maybe that would give PD the kick up the arse they need.

I don't see Forza ever happen on PS5, but AC:Evo may do this if it turns out as well as it looks

 

[Tired Tyres]

That would assume that Microsoft would even be willing to put THIER flagship racing franchise on a rival console (IF they would even want to)

Horizon is their flagship. Not Motorsport.

 

[Fezzik]

That would assume that Microsoft would even be willing to put THIER flagship racing franchise on a rival console (IF they would even want to)

Everything is an Xbox these days, even a PS5. For them the hardware console wars are over, it's just about getting software on as many devices as possible.

 

[Nakano219]

So funny seeing this cycle again. What is wrong in GT7 was wrong in GT Sport, wrong in GT6 and started being wrong in GT5.

I have no idea why people still hold out with the blind hope that GT8 will suddenly change the game design mindset that turned Sophy into a chase the rabbit or purposefully limits the throttle of AI in custom races to 95%.
The game is how they want it to be. You think they wouldn't just add an event that isn't the 472nd instance of a Sunday Cup in an update if they wanted to? They're not going to be beholden to doing that - they do it because that's their mindset and that's not going to drastically change with a new instalment.

To add on to this, because I also think GT8 will be a step change and not a revolution: There is also zero external pressure for PD to massively shake things up or make personnel changes.

Publishers are super risk-averse with AAA games nowadays to begin with - Sony are not going to look at an 87 MC game that has sold extremely well and is routinely what they use to showcase new tech like VR and the Pro, and go "yeah we need you to go back to the drawing board next time". They are absolutely content.

If anything, it's the opposite: Nobody is going to break out of a successful formula and take a leap of faith at a time where your AAA game failing almost certainly means your studio dies.

 

[PSN offapple]

Everything is an Xbox these days, even a PS5. For them the hardware console wars are over, it's just about getting software on as many devices as possible.

At this rate we'll be able to buy Xbox Game Pass on the PlayStation Store next year.
What a cursed timeline lol.

 

[SuperSportX]

I don't see Forza ever happen on PS5, but AC:Evo may do this if it turns out as well as it looks

AC isn't casual friendly enough and is abit too niche to compete with GT assuming you mean from a sales POV, the closest would be Forza but as mentioned that's pretty unrealistic.

 

[VinylRichie]

So people what are your thoughts about GT7 in 2024? 2025 could be the last year support. Apparently

My thoughts after this 2024 support.

GT Sport (Online GT7): I´m not an online player so this is not relevant for me.

Career mode...well, PD did nothing to improve the boring and the disaster implementation of the cafe menus. This is GT7 and no more. I hope for some more fun career mode in GT8.

Tracks: I love Eiger but this track is just for small and medium cars nothing more, nice addition but i expected something more this year in this point.

Cars: With ups and downs...
- 5 Race cars, each one of them for each race category except GR4:

• Genesis VGT (GR1): Man thanks to PD for remember this class exist. Just a fictional VGT and nothing more relevant. The safe place.
• Toyota GT One (GR2): A rocket in Le Mans and speed tracks, beautiful as ****. Not complains about this, i hope for one more in 2025, the 911 GT1 98 or R390 GT1.
• Honda GT500 "Castrol Mugen NSX" (GR3): Competitive car in GR3 field, nice addition with to much nostalgia.
• Subaru Impreza 1998 Rally Car (GRB): hmmm the rally in GT Sport and GT7 is really anecdotic, nothing more to add. Nice car but this is pure nostalgia and that's it. I found the Celica a little bit better overall.
• Mercedes Formula 1 old car:...just for fun and to fill the roster car selection.

The rest of street cars, a lot of Porsches and one Ruf, great cars, some supersport old machines, a little bit of everything. But why again duplicate cars like the Jimny i never undestand that PD decisions. The problem of this is the implementation of those cars in the game. You buy it and goes to the vault, i see you later.

I hope for some more car jewels in 2025 but more than that, i don't think so. Maybe one more track or maybe not.

You forgot THE most important addition of all in 2024, the cockpit implementation for the Mercedes VGT! (and that's just half-sarcastic)

 

[Ande3200]

I would very much like it if Forza Motorsport to be released on PS5. Maybe that would give PD the kick up the arse they need.

Fm has nothing on gt7 sadly, but i am sure ac evo could be the push pd needs
But sadly thats not going to happen unti it releases on conso!es.

AC isn't casual friendly enough and is abit too niche to compete with GT assuming you mean from a sales POV, the closest would be Forza but as mentioned that's pretty unrealistic.

If we are talking about ac1 i agree, ac evo no, it will have everything gt7 has to offer and more, the only question is, how is the controllers support for causals.
It will no doubt be competing with gt7 when it launches on ps5,

 

[05XR8]

If the controller operation is like ACC, ACE will be no problem for us controller users.

 

[nickf1gr]

You forgot THE most important addition of all in 2024, the cockpit implementation for the Mercedes VGT! (and that's just half-sarcastic)

Ι waiting for BMW VGT and Aston Martin VGT interior....

 

[Emick81]

I have completed most of the menu books on the hard difficulty.
I tried some races with the Pepper Icons but I can't keep up with the AI. Would lowering the difficulty to intermediate have an impact on the pepper races or are those races a seperated thing with their own difficulty settings?

 

[NTGSruler]

Given PD's history, I don't believe that GT7 will receive revolutionary updates, which will suddenly add a relevant number of modern racing cars and super sports cars and several circuits. Its GT7 structure is this, and it will not be now after almost three years that it will be reinvented.

I think that until the end of 2025 we will continue with this pace of updating, that is, one or two circuits perhaps, half a dozen modern and electric cars, another half a dozen classic street cars and two racing cars, probably.

The year 2026 should be sparse with updates for the new game to be released at the end of the year.

You talk about GT8, but I don't believe that this will be the next PD game.

Based on historical references, PD has always worked with an appetizer or preparatory game before launching a numbered game.

I speculate that PD will launch GT Sport 2 or something similar, probably at the end of 2026, taking as a reference the launch window from GT6 to GT Sport, and GT Sport to GT7.

And, in this game, the new GT3, GTE, GT2, LMDh, LMh, TCR racing cars should appear, and also some fictional ones, in short, those cars that we are all wanting for GT7.

After all, that's what PD did within the production window between GT6 and GT Sport, producing several new, modern and original racing cars that we had never seen in the franchise.

It certainly is a possibility that GT Sport 2 is the next GT game. However: if you look on the releases of the past GT games there was not always a prototype game before a "full" new GT game. Btw i consider GT Sport a full GT game, it was just not in the format we all know PD for. Also i reckon if the next game is GT Sport 2, i find PD doing very little to none to improve the online component of GT7 for example. You would think they would try or update things for that part of the game, just to evolve things to then possibly release a new "Online focused" GT game. Now i'm not against a new GT Sport, i very much enjoyed GTS for what it was. But GT8 just sounds more promising i think.
GT8 doesn't have to be complicated to be good. And oldstyle career coupled with Sophy AI and everybody praises PD once again.

 

[Meythia]

with their own difficulty settings?

The peppers are meant to indicate this.
But a while back it has been mentioned that in some cases the race difficulty is affected and would actually work in reverse order - I dont know if this only applies or applied to the different missions with pepper races. And I still am in disbelieve that this is or was a thing at all.
But you are free to try, and maybe for one reason or the other you will be more succesful.

 

[Lomic]

The peppers are meant to indicate this.
But a while back it has been mentioned that in some cases the race difficulty is affected and would actually work in reverse order - I dont know if this only applies or applied to the different missions with pepper races. And I still am in disbelieve that this is or was a thing at all.
But you are free to try, and maybe for one reason or the other you will be more succesful.

I am more convinced that the difficulty is tied to the number of peppers only, but I heard also that the lower difficulty you choose for the game, the harder the peeper race is.

 

[Johnny Caisse]

Is there a way to shuffle music during racing? I keep hearing Masahiro Ando, Nittoku Inoue and Daiki Kasho but nothing else even though I set other music to play after a while due to the selection getting stuck in my head. I set the whole selection to play but I wonder if my game's... bugged? Maybe?

 

[Tired Tyres]

I have completed most of the menu books on the hard difficulty.
I tried some races with the Pepper Icons but I can't keep up with the AI. Would lowering the difficulty to intermediate have an impact on the pepper races or are those races a seperated thing with their own difficulty settings?

Pepper races have a preset difficulty and it not affected by normal difficulty setting as far as I've seen.

 

[Lux Klonoa]

Is there a way to shuffle music during racing? I keep hearing Masahiro Ando, Nittoku Inoue and Daiki Kasho but nothing else even though I set other music to play after a while due to the selection getting stuck in my head. I set the whole selection to play but I wonder if my game's... bugged? Maybe?

It's already on shuffle. Just that those three artists have the most music (Daiki Kasho, especially, has like 20+ songs, including the ones from GT3 that only play in the replays), so you'll be hearing them a lot. lol

I've had "All My Life" play twice in a replay, btw, so that's how I know it's already on shuffle.

 

[Galvston]

It certainly is a possibility that GT Sport 2 is the next GT game. However: if you look on the releases of the past GT games there was not always a prototype game before a "full" new GT game. Btw i consider GT Sport a full GT game, it was just not in the format we all know PD for. Also i reckon if the next game is GT Sport 2, i find PD doing very little to none to improve the online component of GT7 for example. You would think they would try or update things for that part of the game, just to evolve things to then possibly release a new "Online focused" GT game. Now i'm not against a new GT Sport, i very much enjoyed GTS for what it was. But GT8 just sounds more promising i think.
GT8 doesn't have to be complicated to be good. And oldstyle career coupled with Sophy AI and everybody praises PD once again.

Facts. Old style A-Spec career with Sophy plus PP limitations and less or not required prize cars would make it great

 

[o000o]

It certainly is a possibility that GT Sport 2 is the next GT game. However: if you look on the releases of the past GT games there was not always a prototype game before a "full" new GT game. Btw i consider GT Sport a full GT game, it was just not in the format we all know PD for. Also i reckon if the next game is GT Sport 2, i find PD doing very little to none to improve the online component of GT7 for example. You would think they would try or update things for that part of the game, just to evolve things to then possibly release a new "Online focused" GT game. Now i'm not against a new GT Sport, i very much enjoyed GTS for what it was. But GT8 just sounds more promising i think.
GT8 doesn't have to be complicated to be good. And oldstyle career coupled with Sophy AI and everybody praises PD once again.

Sophy development is complicated it's not even available in all default tracks yet.

 

[Nakano219]

I feel very comfortable predicting PD are never going to make a primarily racing car/motorsports-focused Gran Turismo game again, GT Sport 2 or otherwise.

There's too many road car models in the game now that they won't throw away, too many manufacturers who they have rebuilt good relationships with and who like the exposure their road cars have in the game. Plus the memory of all the mediocre reviews of launch GT Sport saying "this isn't really Gran Turismo, where's the road cars and progression" - and both SIE and PD historically care a lot about review scores. Then you add MFGT being road car-exclusive as well, and I just don't think keeping up with the modern racing car treadmill is what they want the series to do.

If simulation of modern racing series is what you're looking for, I just don't think this is going to be the series for you going forward to be honest.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Just noticed this as the museum cards are scrolling through on my right hand monitor...

... The car is a 6 series, not a 3 series.

 

[o000o]

Facts. Old style A-Spec career with Sophy plus PP limitations and less or not required prize cars would make it great

Guess I'd wish the career races also can have online option (part of difficulty setting too), to have multiple players enter the event and make up the whole grid based on that event's requirements (best if qualifying returns for this).

I feel very comfortable predicting PD are never going to make a primarily racing car/motorsports-focused Gran Turismo game again, GT Sport 2 or otherwise.

There's too many road car models in the game now that they won't throw away, too many manufacturers who they have rebuilt good relationships with and who like the exposure their road cars have in the game. Plus the memory of all the mediocre reviews of launch GT Sport saying "this isn't really Gran Turismo, where's the road cars and progression" - and both SIE and PD historically care a lot about review scores. Then you add MFGT being road car-exclusive as well, and I just don't think keeping up with the modern racing car treadmill is what they want the series to do.

If simulation of modern racing series is what you're looking for, I just don't think this is going to be the series for you going forward to be honest.

Dunno what'd be the problem in the game wanting to add/keep road cars and not throwing them away.

 

[Skython]

I would very much like it if Forza Motorsport to be released on PS5. Maybe that would give PD the kick up the arse they need.

Trouble is that they too would have to try and make a decent game first.

 

[BrunusCL82]

I feel very comfortable predicting PD are never going to make a primarily racing car/motorsports-focused Gran Turismo game again, GT Sport 2 or otherwise.

There's too many road car models in the game now that they won't throw away, too many manufacturers who they have rebuilt good relationships with and who like the exposure their road cars have in the game. Plus the memory of all the mediocre reviews of launch GT Sport saying "this isn't really Gran Turismo, where's the road cars and progression" - and both SIE and PD historically care a lot about review scores. Then you add MFGT being road car-exclusive as well, and I just don't think keeping up with the modern racing car treadmill is what they want the series to do.

If simulation of modern racing series is what you're looking for, I just don't think this is going to be the series for you going forward to be honest.

I don't think so.

Firstly, the sport mode — the apple of PD's eye — is mostly built on the racing car stereotype. It is because of the sport mode that PD created four categories of racing cars (Gr.1 — Gr.4).

According to PD-Yamauchi, historically, it have always liked racing cars, to the point of even resorting to fictional models. What is the rational basis for believing that the PD would be abandoning the racing cars? I see exactly the opposite of your speculation.

PD is increasingly dedicated to GT racing cars, to the point of creating this revolutionary game design that debuted in GT Sport. But you ask me: then why didn't PD launch an important number of new racing cars for GT7?

I would say that, firstly, from a utilitarian point of view, it is not necessary. There are enough and varied cars to promote the championships. And secondly, from a marketing point of view, new cars (such as some LMh and new GT3 cars) are being stocked to serve as an attraction and one of the reasons to buy GT Sport 2 or GT8.

The GT franchise has always worked in two ways — street cars and race cars. But in the last decade, PD has dedicated more to racing car game design. The GT World Series championships, for example, are 80% held with racing cars.

I would prefer PD to launch GT8. But wishful thinking aside, I suspect PD is working on GT Sport 2 because of the scarcity of modern race cars in the GT7 updates. I suspect PD is saving these cars for a new game, just like it did with GT Sport when it released several debut and original race cars, Gr.3 and Gr.4 models especially.

 

[needfspeed999]

So funny seeing this cycle again. What is wrong in GT7 was wrong in GT Sport, wrong in GT6 and started being wrong in GT5.

I have no idea why people still hold out with the blind hope that GT8 will suddenly change the game design mindset that turned Sophy into a chase the rabbit or purposefully limits the throttle of AI in custom races to 95%.
The game is how they want it to be. You think they wouldn't just add an event that isn't the 472nd instance of a Sunday Cup in an update if they wanted to? They're not going to be beholden to doing that - they do it because that's their mindset and that's not going to drastically change with a new instalment.

Finally someone said it. The same thing all over again.
GT8 is not gonna be anything more than GT7 with a bunch of more cars and 1 or 2 more tracks (and tons of nostalgia bait again to sell out lol) Forget about proper singleplayer mode, good AI and online features.
You guys asked for it by glorifying Kaz for every thing he does/says, treating him like a god instead of adressing the issues.

It's gonna be so fun watching people's reaction to GT8 if it'll turn out like that lol, players getting made fun of by PD since what, 2010?

But i guess the only important thing is cool graphics, right?

 

[Doncarlone]

Finally someone said it. The same thing all over again.
GT8 is not gonna be anything more than GT7 with a bunch of more cars and 1 or 2 more tracks (and tons of nostalgia bait again to sell out lol) Forget about proper singleplayer mode, good AI and online features.
You guys asked for it by glorifying Kaz for every thing he does/says, treating him like a god instead of adressing the issues.

It's gonna be so fun watching people's reaction to GT8 if it'll turn out like that lol, players getting made fun of by PD since what, 2010?

But i guess the only important thing is cool graphics, right?

My first prediction for gt8:
Players will complain it takes longer to earn credits than in gt7.

 

[Lomic]

You guys asked for it by glorifying Kaz for every thing he does/says

Please stop making generalizations like this, it is annoying, to keep polite.

 

[OultonP]

I would prefer PD to launch GT8. But wishful thinking aside, I suspect PD is working on GT Sport 2 because of the scarcity of modern race cars in the GT7 updates. I suspect PD is saving these cars for a new game, just like it did with GT Sport when it released several debut and original race cars, Gr.3 and Gr.4 models especially.

There's no logic bringing back a tarnished brand in GT Sport after all the hard work PD & Sony have put into reviving the Gran Turismo franchise with GT7. The official line may say different, but it seems obvious GT Sport came about as PD only had time to release a smaller title, so this was a convenient workaround.

GT Sport offers nothing that isn't in GT7 - in fact the online portions of the game are far more extensive - in addition to a single-player mode. For the next title PD will build on this with GT8, as they did with GT2, GT4, GT6. It's clear they have been holding back modern race cars, and arguably tracks. But as others have said these will be the major selling points for GT8 - alongside full implementation of GT Sophy - and likely other game modes/features that where not feasible on PS4.

I don't like to use the word comfortable as game development in very challenging. But unlike many other studios, who are adopting new technology and building game worlds and mechanics from scratch. PD have the technical foundations and much of their content ready to go for their next title. They can focus on game structure, technical refinements, and addressing shortcomings highlighted by the community.

It wouldn't surprise me if we get another 6-12 months of updates with GT8 announced for a '26 launch.

 

[Fezzik]

It wouldn't surprise me if we get another 6-12 months of updates with GT8 announced for a '26 launch.

I would be extremely surprised, honestly astonished, if they managed to develop and release a AAA game in 4 years considering current game dev timelines. Even more so considering they have been developing GT7 over the last 2 years, they didn't stop immediately after release and switch to a follow-up.