Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Sony Honda Mobility (SHM) has announced that in celebration of the first anniversary of the introduction of the 'AFEELA Prototype 2024' in Gran Turismo 7, it will be holding the 'Gran Turismo 7 AFEELA Livery Design Contest 2025' from 1 May.

The contest offers players the opportunity to design their very own custom livery for the AFEELA Prototype 2024 and submit their entries through Gran Turismo 7. Judging will be conducted by SHM, who will select two winners from the entries, one 'Best Work' and one 'Outstanding Work.' Participants have from Thursday, 1 May to Thursday, 22 May to submit their designs.

The selected designs will be announced and receive recognition as the 'Official Livery' of the AFEELA Prototype 2024 on the AFEELA official website and social media platforms.
 
So, how much do we read into this ending on a specific Thursday?
 
That car briefly seen on the screen in that Giugiaro reel looks like a Fiat Panda.

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So, if Kaz is experimenting with “auto-generation” maybe we’ll see cars modelled weekly. 🤔 :lol::sly:

Oh and we still didn’t get to see what that young captured on the screen. Shucks!
 
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That car briefly seen on the screen in that Giugiaro reel looks like a Fiat Panda.

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Oh hey it's Jimmy Broadbent's starter car from his old Gran Turismo 4 playthrough!

Also the prospect of "auto-generation" is exciting. With how much Polyphony are perfectionists with their models I'd imagine them using A.I. tech, and having their human modellers refine them, as oppose to typical "A.I. slop."
Using A.I. in an ethical way that deals with the menial time-consuming stuff, rather than the art form stuff which is left for the humans.


Tangential Edit: Another one of the car showcase posts just dropped.

 
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The Gran Turismo social media posts, updates, and what they mean for you: A Guide

Thought I'd make a quick post on this now that people are actively tracking these, to clear up misconceptions and/or overly optimistic dreams surrounding them (this month could be a regular May 29 update and it would still fit the pattern, for example).

1) What is the buzz around these posts? Why do people care?
Gran Turismo's social media platforms (I use Instagram for this, other platforms are available) post featurettes of the cars in the previous update. You know it's a featurette because it will have the images used in the news post for the previous update, and on Instagram at least, the description is literally the in-game description from the Car Collection screen.

Why are these interesting? Because, since they've started, there has invariably been a content update one to three weeks after the final post, and conversely, and maybe more importantly, there have been no updates that do not follow this pattern.

So for a year now, it's been fairly predictive of content updates. It's something we can use to predict PD, which is a vanishingly rare trait for such a secretive dev so people have grabbed onto it.

2) How long has this been happening for?


The first set of these posts was in March 2024, for the cars featured in the v1.43 February 2024 update (the Evo IX, second-gen TT, Renault R4 update). They have followed for every update since, including before the silhouette-less July 2024 update.

3) You bolded "final". Does the first social media post mean anything?

It means an update is coming, but not necessarily that month. Multiple months have started posting these in the middle of a month, spread to the next month, and then the update has been the normal time of the second month.

It does seem to mean an update is at least coming down the pipe, though.

4) Do all cars get a social media post?

No. The F3500, Gr.1 Genesis VGT, and Skoda VGT did not get a post, suggesting that VGTs and PD-created fictional cars will not (thought the Mission X did, so it's not a blanket rule for concept cars). The Ioniq 5 and Afeela also did not - these cars had specific extra marketing around them.

5) Do the posts happen a certain time before the update/silhouettes?

No. Notably, the first post of the January 2025 cars (the C-HR) happened less than 24 hours before the February silhouettes went up. May 2024, by contrast, was done with its sole post of the Chevelle by May 9 - a full three weeks before the update was released!

6) Do posts around other pieces of content (Scapes, Extra Menus, Sophy, new wheels, etc) matter?

I believe not, these seem to always immediately follow the release of an update instead of waiting for just before the next one. These are relatively recent additions though, so this could change.

7) Is there any guarantee this trend continues?

Absolutely not. PD and/or the social media team could even see us talking about it and deliberately change tactics just to mess with us, were they to be so mean! Indeed, if the May 2025 update is in the normal spot, I'd argue that's the trend over.

8) Is this at all predictive as to what content is coming?

Not at all. Sorry, you aren't discerning an impending GT3 car/R390 or track from these!

9) Can I see the raw data?

Certainly:

Content updateFirst featurette postedFinal featurette postedSilhouettes postedUpdate released
v1.57Mar 13Mar 24Mar 21Mar 27
v1.56Feb 21Feb 24Feb 21Feb 27
v1.55Jan 17Jan 27Jan 25Jan 30
v1.54Oct 17Oct 24Nov 15Nov 21
v1.52Aug 27Sep 10Sep 28Oct 2
v1.49Jun 13Jul 16NoneJul 25
v1.48May 9May 9May 27May 30
v1.46Apr 12Apr 19Apr 24Apr 25
v1.44Mar 6Mar 11Mar 23Mar 28
v1.43NoneNoneFeb 25Feb 29
 
Is it just me, or does it feel like more of the cars being added in recent updates are getting relatively interesting customization options in GT Auto? For example, the Peugeot 205 GTI can have rally-style lights on them - though I'm unsure if they actually can have their covers removed to be illuminated. Then, both the Aston Martin Vantage '18 and Renault Kangoo seem to have special rear wing designs, rather than only having the ''custom wing set" option.
 
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I guess having the Alphard with its various VIP body kits(the Crown also has VIP spoiler options) and the HiAce option removal of rear seats, GT7 is a bit different from past games in the franchise.
 
I've been playing Forza Horizon 5 for nearly a week now and I agree with all of your points. For the negative points:

• The FOMO mechanics and seasonal cars in Horizon has always been terrible, I've been trying to get a C8 Z06 but there's never one up for auction. At least there's Horizon Backstage but that still doesn't cut it, so many cars locked away...
Damn for real? i'm just gonna wait FH5 for big sale then.
 
I've been thinking about livestreaming GT7, especially with a mic, but I'm concerned that it may cause otherwise unnecessary lag if I were to stream Sport Mode races. Would this potentially be an issue? If so, I'd be fine just streaming events that don't involve human players, such as those in World Circuits, or some Online Time Trials.
 
I guess having the Alphard with its various VIP body kits(the Crown also has VIP spoiler options) and the HiAce option removal of rear seats, GT7 is a bit different from past games in the franchise.
GT7 is clearly ahead in customization compared to previous GTs (outside of RM).

Its performance parts is also more than GT4 (where GT5/6 had less than GT4).
 
9) Can I see the raw data?
Apropos of this, I've been keeping a more visual guide for a while. It's actually 42 days wide (because the timings for these things in 1.49, 1.52, and 1.54 were weird) but the condensed version is:

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You can probably guess that purple is car highlights on social media, orange is silhouettes, and green is updates. I've also got Scapes highlights on socials in red, and Extra Menu highlights on socials in blue.

We've had both of the latter two and cars one and two (of three) from 1.57 already, which likely means we're less than two weeks from the next update - but, of course, might not!
 
I find it hilarious that almost no one seems to be reading the rules. 80% of the liveries I see online are ineligible.
 
Do people think PD will have any interest in the WRC license given the recent news there?

It kind of feels like it might be a natural fit. I don't know if there's a developer out there that can turn around a new WRC-exclusive licensed game, iRacing has never seemed interested in dirt that isn't shaped in an oval, and FM/ACE straight up don't and won't have rally. So it might be there for them if they want it.
 
Do people think PD will have any interest in the WRC license given the recent news there?

It kind of feels like it might be a natural fit. I don't know if there's a developer out there that can turn around a new WRC-exclusive licensed game, iRacing has never seemed interested in dirt that isn't shaped in an oval, and FM/ACE straight up don't and won't have rally. So it might be there for them if they want it.
I mean back on GT5 Polyphony had a WRC licence for some of the cars (and the Sébastein Loeb special event), but I'd doubt they would make a stand-alone WRC game.

Though I don't know who if anyone would be the maker of the next WRC game now EA has stopped Codemasters.
 
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Do people think PD will have any interest in the WRC license given the recent news there?

It kind of feels like it might be a natural fit. I don't know if there's a developer out there that can turn around a new WRC-exclusive licensed game, iRacing has never seemed interested in dirt that isn't shaped in an oval, and FM/ACE straight up don't and won't have rally. So it might be there for them if they want it.
I don't think there's a Huge interest for the WRC license like there is for F1(The current promoters doing so not doing it many favors from what I have seen) so not really sure PD would go for it, standalone (Definately not) or as a DLC expansion.
 
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Do we know how licensing works?

I mean, if PD wants to field a car that raced in, let's say, 2019 in the WRC, do they need the license for that car and the WRC too? Or would they need the license for the car brand and the sponsors that appear in it?

Leaving aside the issue of WRC, F1, etc. licenses only for the active year of the competition?

I have no idea how this things works.
 
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I was sure PD would have at the least added the Yaris WRC. However, we got the GR Yaris. So, probably saved PD any headache from licensing.
 
Do we know how licensing works?
Yes and no. As I was mentioning the other day, there's always another layer of bull**** that you're not expecting with licensing. It's like a poop onion.
I mean, if PD wants to field a car that raced in, let's say, 2019 in the WRC, do they need the license for that car and the WRC too? Or would they need the license for the car brand and the sponsors that appear in it?
In all likelihood they'd need to have a licence for the brand, car model, team, drivers, and every individual sponsor on that car. There are cases where the commercial agreement for sponsoring a vehicle/driver includes a third-party licensing of image rights clause.
Leaving aside the issue of WRC, F1, etc. licenses only for the active year of the competition?
How F1 runs is, to my knowledge, a little different from most other series - largely because the cars are unique and not a sporting class that happens to run in that series but also one or more others - and there's a biiiig chunk of it that's to do with the organisers having presentation rights to the cars/tracks as raced as it's tied into broadcast rights. That allows it to sell "the championship" as a single entity to things like the F1 game without requiring any additional licensing of each and every tiny logo on every car.

I thought that it was to do with the Concorde Agreement (which deals with commercial rights), but the appearance of the 2017 W08 in GT Sport in 2018 confounds that notion because the relevant agreement ran from 2013-2020. Its subsequent disappearance is just as baffling.


There's always another layer of bull**** that you're not expecting with licensing.
 
It occurred to me today that it's getting close to being a full year since the last circuit (Eiger Nordwand) was added in July 2024.

Are we at a point now where it's 99% certain that there won't be any more new circuits coming to GT7?
 
It occurred to me today that it's getting close to being a full year since the last circuit (Eiger Nordwand) was added in July 2024.

Are we at a point now where it's 99% certain that there won't be any more new circuits coming to GT7?

The Dutch PD track modeller that was posting on reddit (to later erase everything as he got on trouble) said that there were surprises coming later in the year on the next updates ( I don't remember exsctly but I think that happened after the January update missing a track) so I think we will get at least another track this year.

The concerning point for me is how every time is more slow the release of tracks, from getting a track every 1 -2 months in GT Sport, to a track every 6 months the first year to have to wait an entire year for a new track 3 years later.

With cars we have a well stablished output (3.5 cars a month in avg) but tracks is not stable and as time goes is more amd more slow and scarse the output.
 
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