GT4 4x4 course?

[Supra897]

At the rate they are going next game if there is one im sure there will they will have plenty of time to add and improve.

Considering that the next one will be on PS3, they will have to revamp all the physics engines. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if it doesn't hinder the main experience (tarmac driving), then I don't really care whether they have off-roading courses or not.

 

[Blackbird.]

I'm not even considering off-road tracks. In my opinion racing a Ford F-150 on Nurburgring may be wrong but I'd consider it fun.

 

[Supra897]

I'm not even considering off-road tracks. In my opinion racing a Ford F-150 on Nurburgring may be wrong but I'd consider it fun.

Oh, well I was talking about tracks, I got no probs with vehicles (like I stated way above). I don't think that it's more difficult to model an F-150 than a regular car.

 

[Blackbird.]

of course it's different then cars. Modeling the bed and the height. PD isn't very detailed with the wheel wells.

 

[Blackbird.]

I'm a bit dissapointed to see all of the SUVs listed are all in red. They really should include them and mention them in interviews.

 

[Supra897]

of course it's different then cars. Modeling the bed and the height. PD isn't very detailed with the wheel wells.

I said difficult, not different. It wouldn't be much more difficult to model a truck then a car. The only problem I see is that trucks/suvs are much more prone to roll-overs then cars, so I don't know how PD would handle that.

 

[lionel]

I think if PD would just come out with an exclusively off-road game, something that would lift the roll limit(like rock crawling, trail riding, etc.) for the PS3 maybe, I believe they would do very well, I know it would give me something to do besides playing 1nsane for the pc to satisfy my off-road motorsports itch. And by the way βlackbird, I like your avatar, long live Led!

 

[Supra897]

I think if PD would just come out with an exclusively off-road game, something that would lift the roll limit(like rock crawling, trail riding, etc.) for the PS3 maybe, I believe they would do very well, I know it would give me something to do besides playing 1nsane for the pc to satisfy my off-road motorsports itch. And by the way βlackbird, I like your avatar, long live Led!

Does anyone know how popular off-roading is in Asia/Europe? If it's popular then maybe there's a basis for discussion about such a game, but if it's not then I don't see the point in wishing.

 

[lionel]

From what I have seen on some shows on 4x4-ing throughout the world, it seems to be growing, but I don't believe it will ever be as big as it is here in the U.S. Therefore I doubt PD will ever come out with an exclusive off-road game much less include it in the GT series, although it would be nice, I need to stop dreaming and just be happy that I will get to play GT4 soon enough.

 

[the Interceptor]

There have been quite a lot off-road cars in GT Concept, which is why I think we could probably see some more in GT4. There were no real hardcore-offroaders though, just some jeeps. And as there hopefully are some diesels to be integrated into the game, we might see some more of them.

Besides that I still think an obstacle-course is a good idea, because I'd find it interesting and would rather see this than anything else they might come up with in future versions. And I don't see a large contradiction to the idea of "Grand Touring", because this also is an area where you need some skills to drive your car properly.

The problem I see is that it's hard to steer your vehicle as precisely as neccessary, just because you can't do that with the controller and you can't see the dimensions of your car well enough. You'd need a freely configurabe 360° look all around the car to see where you need to go, but something like stopping you car rolling down an acclivity only with clutch and accelerator is just impossible yet.

Cheers,
the Interceptor

 

[inferno]

Ugh. An obstacle course? GT is about racing. It's about getting there fastest not about just hoping to get there. once you get into the world of rock crawling and such your really geting away from what GT was designed to be. I'd love to see trucks like the Ram SRT-10 and the Ford F-150 SVT lightning for road racing, and 4wd versions for the rally mode. Posibly with a dakar style section of really rough courses. But what all these modes have in common is that they are closed circut courses. And even if you prefer your rally's in stages, it's still a course that poses the challenge of being traversed in the least amount of time. In order for it to make sense in GT it has to be of a racing orientation. Rock crawling and obstacle courses most definatly do not fall into that category.

 

[the Interceptor]

Well, I think I'll like B-Spec and the photomode, but I'd rather have a 4x4 obstacle course than anything they might come up with in GT5. Sure it's not really about racing, but still it's no "pedal to the metal and don't brake at all". It's about having your car under control and being quick at the same time, like the Prologue coffeebreak with the S2000.

Cheers,
the Interceptor

 

[JohnBM01]

They would be nice, but I don't think I'd use them much. I wouldn't do anything like try to boost advertising for the Hummer H2 by doing some GT4 racing. I'm don't see myself racing a Hummer on sophisticated road courses with an anything-but vehicle. I don't see myself trying to beat down people in a machine better suited to off-road use. In other words, if I wanted to use such 4x4s, I'd rather rally race a la Dakar.

Before any smart ass comes off asking me "John, the Escudo is an SUV! What the hell are you talking about man? Enough of your editorials already, damn you!", I don't think they have a place in road racing. I think. Maybe not you, but when I'm road racing, I'd want to use vechicles I know I can win with. Because when you think about it, 4x4s and such are too to-heavy for road racing, and I especially mean SUVs. You try to handle beautifully with those, and the next thing you know, you're on your hood. Had this been Grand Theft Auto, of course, you'd have to get out of your machine before it blows up (with you in it). Another smart-ass remark would be "there's no roll overs in GT4. Get a clue, dude." My response? Most 4x4s are too heavy for road racing. If you don't have the weight reduction and all that down, you're still probably not going to win the Grand Valley 300km or whatever endurance is planned for the Nurburgring Nordschliefe.

Or if I'm wrong, set me straight. Sound off.

 

[Blackbird.]

I said difficult, not different. It wouldn't be much more difficult to model a truck then a car. The only problem I see is that trucks/suvs are much more prone to roll-overs then cars, so I don't know how PD would handle that.

With the physics they had in GT3 a SUV wouldn't roll. The physics for jumps in rally were horrible! I hope they've added rollover but it would just at to the humiliation of not a scratch.

 

[the Interceptor]

Or if I'm wrong, set me straight.

No no no, you're absolutely right. I'm not trying to justify the role of SUVs in GT anyway, I'm only saying that I'd like to have an obstacle course where staying calm and driving precisely are the things you need to do to get the cup. I'm not particularly a fan of SUV's either, actually I don't like'em at all.

Cheers,
the Interceptor

 

[liquidyellow]

If 4X4s are in the game then it makes sense to have an obstacle course SUVs would be pretty lame around a track you would be on your roof at the first corner. Doh forgot cars dont roll over in GT world 💡
Some people say its not in the spirit of 'Gran Turismo' well neither is rallying or F1 cars or the 'coffee breaks' in GT4P, so who cares I wouldnt be into it but what the hell its another form of driving.

 

[king jame II]

GT4 needs mud drags, tractor pulls, and monster trucks. It would be the ultimate in white trash technology and i'd love every second of it. But 4x4's would be ok, i guess.......
James-

 

[MadduckUK]

Bowler Wildcat

 

[Izanagi]

what would be nice is Dakar-style racing....involving trucks and dunebuggies...bikes r out since this is a car game...however, i thik i'd like ot take a monster like a Tatra around the Grand Canyon or maybe a special desert track. the Wildcat looks awesome and the RSC rally suv/car would be cool...i know that Mitsubishi makes a Dakar suv/car as well...talk about exciting! Camels, nomads, sand for hundreds of miles all around...ahhhhhh now that tests a man's skills and will power!

 

[inferno]

Now thats what I'm talking about! Relentless forward progress, over any terrain!

4X4 rally mode PLEASE! GT5? Maybe? Kaz?

 

[Izanagi]

anyone round here ever watched the Dakar race? any of you ever seen, let alone driven a Tatra? well i have driven one in Romania....aside from how hard it is to get the gearing down, its a lot of fun....those r BIG trucks with LOTS of power that'll run over just about ANYTHING...