GT4 car variations in real life

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I am curious, I am trying to determine what exactly the differences are in all these R34s, R33s, RX7s, NSXs, etc.....

For example, I'll use the RX7.

What is the difference in a RX7 Type R, RX7 Type RS, RX7 Type RZ, RX7 Type RZ-A, RX7 Bathurst R, etc.....

They all appear to have the same horsepower and weight. Only changes I can see are the wheels, but surely there are more to these various RX7s then a set of unique wheels.

Same story for the R33s, R34s, NSXs, etc....
 
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I am curious, I am trying to determine what exactly the differences are in all these R34s, R33s, RX7s, NSXs, etc.....

For example, I'll use the RX7.

What is the difference in a RX7 Type R, RX7 Type RS, RX7 Type RZ, RX7 Type RZ-A, RX7 Bathurst R, etc.....

They all appear to have the same horsepower and weight. Only changes I can see are the wheels, but surely there are more to these various RX7s then a set of unique wheels.

Same story for the R33s, R34s, NSXs, etc....
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i'm pretty sure that in real life most of them have subtle differences in suspension and options. however, as far as the game goes i have no idea if they're represented any differently besides the graphic model. they probably add them in just because they can say there are more cars without having to actually model entire new cars.
 
i have to agree i can never tell which car is better other than by going by the prices it would be nice if they had a little blurb telling you the differences between it and another model
 
The R32, R33, R34 are models years of the Nissan Skyline, if you look you'll notice that the R32 is the earliest produced, followed by the R33, then the R34. I'm sure the Skyline owners in this forum will be along shortly to give more info than you'll ever need about the changes, the difference between V-Spec and non-V-Spec, the differences between the GT-R and the GT-S, etc.
 
Well, in a simpler example... take Honda. In real life there is a Civic DX, LX , EX and Si. The DX-EX are all the same shape... Only differences are trim level, etc. So one of the RX-7 variations may have been a model they made without A/C or a stereo as a special racing model... I don't know specifically. So, in answer to your question, as far as the game goes (and you plan on modding the car anyhow) buy the least expensive one that looks the way you want it to (body kit or something).
 
dbartucci
The R32, R33, R34 are models years of the Nissan Skyline, if you look you'll notice that the R32 is the earliest produced, followed by the R33, then the R34. I'm sure the Skyline owners in this forum will be along shortly to give more info than you'll ever need about the changes, the difference between V-Spec and non-V-Spec, the differences between the GT-R and the GT-S, etc.
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Exactly. R32, R33, R34 are models years. V-Spec, M-Spec, etc... I think its like the V-Tech, maybe a sort of technology of Nissan in the Skyline engines... And I'm sure that GT-R and GT-S means R for racing and S for Sport, just look at the difference between the 2 one.
 
Lightsped
I am curious, I am trying to determine what exactly the differences are in all these R34s, R33s, RX7s, NSXs, etc.....

For example, I'll use the RX7.

What is the difference in a RX7 Type R, RX7 Type RS, RX7 Type RZ, RX7 Type RZ-A, RX7 Bathurst R, etc.....

They all appear to have the same horsepower and weight. Only changes I can see are the wheels, but surely there are more to these various RX7s then a set of unique wheels.

Same story for the R33s, R34s, NSXs, etc....
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Yes I know what you mean I was just saying the same thing in a post the other day. I dont know why they took out the car descriptions in the NA version, they are just gone, and it really sucks! They were in GT 1 2 and 3 so what gives? I heard they are in the Japanese version so, they just didnt feel like translating it all I guess who knows. This is really my only compaint in GT4. But yea if you put in an old GT game you can look at the descriptions there as long as its not a GT4-only car.
 
Exactly. R32, R33, R34 are models years. V-Spec, M-Spec, etc... I think its like the V-Tech, maybe a sort of technology of Nissan in the Skyline engines... And I'm sure that GT-R and GT-S means R for racing and S for Sport, just look at the difference between the 2 one.
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I dont think its anything like v-tec, im assuming theres a difference in the handling and trim levels or something along those lines.
 
R32,R33,R34 are generations, M-Spec was the british model which feature more oil coolers the R32 had 1, R33 2,R34 had 3 and they all high higher speed limiters, THe Nur endtions featured a Nur tuned suspension thus the record set by the R33 around the Nur. The Gts is a Rear wheel drive Rb25det which is a single turbo. THe GTR feature teh Rb26dett , attessa, and super hiccas. Which translates into AWD, Twin turbo, ATTESSA is one of the best if not the best awd system in the world. It starts as a RWD then transfers torque when tracation loss. Super hicas is a system determines teh amoung of steering imput and feeds power according thus trying to get rid of counter steer. Hopfully i helped and i didn't confuse you.
 
HERE'S SOME INFO YOU PROBABLY DONT CARE ABOUT BUT MAY HELP ANSWER PART OF YOUR QUESTION...

Yes as mentioned above, the R32, R33, R34 skylines are just different models of the skyline. 1989 R32, 1995 R33, 1999 R34. I think the purpose (correct me if Im wrong) of the "V-spec" comes with an active LSD for optimum torque split control and 17 inches wheels and Brembo brakes as standard equipment.

Amongst many improvements over the R32 GTR, apparently the R33 had slightly increased torque. The R33 introduced a mechanism that allows a four-way adjustment of the spoiler angle and resulted in a better aerodynamics etc.

The R34's significant improvements included twin ball bearing ceramic turbochargerswhich resulted in a sharper, more instantaneous response to accelerator inputs. Six speed gear box. Helical LSD for improved traction during cornering.

In 2000 the R34 GTR had some minor changes made including V-spec 2 that replaced the previous V-spec grade - features the first mass-produced "vehicle implementation" of a carbon fiber engine hood with NACA ducts. Larger rear brakes.

In 2002 the R34 GTR had the following changes furthermore - improved weight balance such as pistons and con-rods which are the main parts of the engine based on the "N1 specification engine installed in the Nuerburgrings 24 hour race and a domestic Super Taikyu race".



I think thats the basic crap that went on between the series, whether or not PD implemented these into GT4 or not is another question.

The other Skylines are something along the lines of the following:
GTS - standard 2L engine NA
GTS25 - standard 2.5L NA
GTS-t - 2L turbo
GTS25t - 2.5L turbo
GTS4 - 2L turbo 4WD 4WS (I think there were variations of this model).

Thats about the limit of my knowledge

Now lets watch these skyline-heads come in and abuse the hell out of me for getting some facts wrong!
 
Teckademic
I dont think its anything like v-tec, im assuming theres a difference in the handling and trim levels or something along those lines.
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ok. Anyway, If the Skyline were allowed in Canada, I would buy one, thats simply a sick car :P
 
They are the R32 can be imported due to your 15 year law. Check out automotiveforums.com then nissain and skyline there should be a thingy on there bout skyline on canada. We have to wait till 2014.
 
DJ-CiviC
ok. Anyway, If the Skyline were allowed in Canada, I would buy one, thats simply a sick car :P
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I'm sure they'd be allowed, but you'll have to import it and you will have the steering while at the "wrong" right side.
 
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=112100 read up and enjoy. BTW if u decide to pst on the skyline part of AF be sure u read the FAQ and SEARCh posts b4 u do they don't take nice to newbie ?s after 2 fast 2 gay. Alot of ppl came in there and were like yah i'm gonna import me a skyline and put a bunch of jdm stuff on it yo. The truth is in the U.S. u cannot get a skyline right now the only importer Motorex is out of business rb mototing talked bout picking up the slack but no word yet. Also the fact that the R34 used in the movie had the ATTESSA, super hicass removed so they could get it to slide around. So just be carful and if u decide to grab one good look and enjoy.
 
v-spec or victory specification also features front and rear carbon diffusers and n1 spec rear brakes. the nur edition has n1 spec engine and turbos. m spec is like a luxury version with leather seating and a softend damper setting if i remeber correctly. a normal gtr is well... a normal gtr

as for the nsxs, 90-96 had a 3 liter v6 with "270" hp and a 5 speed, of those the best is the 92 nsx-r. 97 saw a revision to 3.2 liters and 6 speeds and the departure of the nsx-r. the gap was filled by the type S and type S zero models, type s zero being the lightest. in 2002 the nsx got a facelift with non pop up lights and other aero dynamic work and the return of the nsx-r, instantly raved upon by enthusiasts and named evo magazine's car of the year. in the game they also have the concept nsx-r from tokyo motor show. oh yeah the acura versions are all crap cus of the weight. 3200~ lbs, from a car with aluminum structure... sweet jebus! 2002 nsx-r weighs 2800lbs for reference, thats a difference of 400lbs or 3 of me.

for the fd3s rx-7s, early models had 251hp, which later grew to 261 (?) and then in 98 got a facelift with the full "276" rating. the rz model is described as the stripped down premium sports version (92 93 95 96 and 00 in the game). the 97 rs-r is step down from the rz cus it was discontinued until its revival in 00. the rs is a more "equiped" version than the normal type r. the 01 bathurst model was created to celebrate its history at the bathurst enduro in australia and filled the place of the rz since the 00 rz was only a limted production (i have a yellow bathurst, yay ). when the rx-7 was announced to end production, mazda decided to go out with a bang and made the spirit R type A, B , and C with the type A only in the game. this last version is considered the ultimate among the fd3s generation by many, including myself.
 
smellysocks12
I'm sure they'd be allowed, but you'll have to import it and you will have the steering while at the "wrong" right side.
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Nah they're not. They talked about it at the tv on a tuning show. I dont really care about the steering on the right side, I'll drive it anyway :P
 
DJ-CiviC
Nah they're not. They talked about it at the tv on a tuning show. I dont really care about the steering on the right side, I'll drive it anyway :P
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U saying they arent allowed? i sent a link above that a link of who u need to talk etc. U can get a R32 due to the 15 year law in CA.

Rb26dett_240sx http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbu...ad.php?t=112100 read up and enjoy. BTW if u decide to pst on the skyline part of AF be sure u read the FAQ and SEARCh posts b4 u do they don't take nice to newbie ?s after 2 fast 2 gay. Alot of ppl came in there and were like yah i'm gonna import me a skyline and put a bunch of jdm stuff on it yo. The truth is in the U.S. u cannot get a skyline right now the only importer Motorex is out of business rb mototing talked bout picking up the slack but no word yet. Also the fact that the R34 used in the movie had the ATTESSA, super hicass removed so they could get it to slide around. So just be carful and if u decide to grab one good look and enjoy.
 
Rb26dett_240sx
U saying they arent allowed? i sent a link above that a link of who u need to talk etc. U can get a R32 due to the 15 year law in CA.

Rb26dett_240sx http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbu...ad.php?t=112100 read up and enjoy. BTW if u decide to pst on the skyline part of AF be sure u read the FAQ and SEARCh posts b4 u do they don't take nice to newbie ?s after 2 fast 2 gay. Alot of ppl came in there and were like yah i'm gonna import me a skyline and put a bunch of jdm stuff on it yo. The truth is in the U.S. u cannot get a skyline right now the only importer Motorex is out of business rb mototing talked bout picking up the slack but no word yet. Also the fact that the R34 used in the movie had the ATTESSA, super hicass removed so they could get it to slide around. So just be carful and if u decide to grab one good look and enjoy.
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Sorry didnt see. It sucks anyway. The body of the R31 is ugly and the engine is not even better then the one of the R34... Did if I get a R31 and put a body of R34 on, it would be legal ???
 
You mean R32 i know its ugly but it is the lightest of all the R series Skylines The RB26dett is awesome hince its nick name GODZILLIA. A r34 conversion like that would be out of the ? unless u are rich. The R34 uses OBDII diagnostics which nobody has crack so unless u wanted to run a whole new electrical system. The r33 was 95 so in 2010 u could pick up a R33 but until then be happy u can get a R32 now where as i have to wait till 2014.
 
Rb26dett_240sx
Super hicas is a system determines teh amoung of steering imput and feeds power according thus trying to get rid of counter steer.
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super hicas is 4 wheel steering also found a few s13 gen 240sx and z32 300zx's

according to my owners manual, it momentarily steers the opposite direction then with the front wheels according to steering input and throttle positon and speed.

most ppl i know get rid of this system as it is somewhat unpredictable in autocrossing
 
Rb26dett_240sx
You mean R32 i know its ugly but it is the lightest of all the R series Skylines The RB26dett is awesome hince its nick name GODZILLIA. A r34 conversion like that would be out of the ? unless u are rich. The R34 uses OBDII diagnostics which nobody has crack so unless u wanted to run a whole new electrical system. The r33 was 95 so in 2010 u could pick up a R33 but until then be happy u can get a R32 now where as i have to wait till 2014.
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I'm not rich but with the budjet of the garage I could get a R32, modified the frame and put a body of R33 or R34. Plus if the engine does not cost lot of money, maybe put the engine too... But I dont think about doing this... lol


[EDIT] Fo sure, the RB26DETT looks nice and this is the most powerful R32 ( http://www.jns-imports.com/list/japanese/nissan_skyline/r32.html )
 
It would be a feat but it is possible i've seen a R32 with R34 engine b4. Idk bour from modifcation that would probably mean a whole new bunch of parts custom made. Most of the Rb26detts u will see for sell are R32 a few R33. I think the R33 featured varible valve timing not sure though. I'd just grab a R32 put a body kit on it or custom make one and mod the heck out of the engine.
 
Yeah. Now I've seen the JNS Imports site, Estimated price of $18,000 - $24,000 for a R32 RB26DETT. Maybe I'll get one...
 
Everybody i've ever talked to that owned/owns one loves them. If u go road racing though make sure the car has atleast 1 oil cooler or add one. Have u ever owned a AWD car? Let me tell u launching a car ne where from 5k-8k is a blast. Just dont do it all the time.
 
Rb26dett_240sx
It would be a feat but it is possible i've seen a R32 with R34 engine b4. Idk bour from modifcation that would probably mean a whole new bunch of parts custom made. Most of the Rb26detts u will see for sell are R32 a few R33. I think the R33 featured varible valve timing not sure though. I'd just grab a R32 put a body kit on it or custom make one and mod the heck out of the engine.
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Actually, the stock Rb26dett is 280 HP with a Twin Turbo. If you put a HKS Supercharger kit, you'll already get to like 520 HP. At this time, no one can put much power in a Skyline then HKS so...


[EDIT] Oops, double post, actually this one is the good one
 
Rb26dett_240sx
Everybody i've ever talked to that owned/owns one loves them. If u go road racing though make sure the car has atleast 1 oil cooler or add one. Have u ever owned a AWD car? Let me tell u launching a car ne where from 5k-8k is a blast. Just dont do it all the time.
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Yeah I own a WRX STi 2002 all the summer of 2003.
 
U can get alot more power out of the Rb26dett then that, didn't know they made a supercharger for it. Vielside had a 800hp on stock bottom end. Personally i'd get a bore kit and make u a Rb28dett then upgrade the tubos and ecu. They are rated for 280hp understand that,japanese rules,agreements state that no car can produce over 280ps. but alot of the cars do ne way its more of a keep insurance cheap thing. Alot R33-R34 i know have dynoed stock at 350hp. R32 idk bout.
 
I've seen a video of a Skyline R32 on a video maybe last month or in January. The engine is all tuned with HKS parts and got 1100 HP on it. I dont know for Veilside. For me, Nissan = Nismo or HKS :) Veilside I'll put it for Supraz but I've seen Jun Supra...
 

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