GT4 General Discussion and Questions

[Totally_Turismo]

No. I was saying that it playing on the PC working was good.

The game dieing was bad.

 

[Mr P510]

Will GT4 play on the PS3? Anyone tried this?

 

[GT_Jim]

Check here

 

[daan]

You'd never had guessed it. It bloody worked!

You doubted me?

 

[Mr P510]

Check here

Thanks GT Jim I checked and the list only mentions Prolouge. Oh no!!

 

[Totally_Turismo]

You doubted me?

...weeeell. Yup. I didn't expect it to work. It did though. Anyway, I'll record my C'était un rendez-vous tonight if I don't have much homework (being probably the youngist on this forum - aged 13).

 

[Michael88]

I ever wondered what the widest car is, the widest car I have in my garage is the Toyota-7 with 2020 mm.

 

[Loon]

I've got too many cars to go through and check them all. But I'm sure there is something wider than the 7.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

I ever wondered what the widest car is, the widest car I have in my garage is the Toyota-7 with 2020 mm.

The 2002 Nissan GT-R Concept LM is the widest car in GT4 at 2124 mm (7'), but the Toyota 7 is one of the widest cars in GT4.

• List of "Largest" Vehicles in GT4

 

[Michael88]

Thanks Digital-Nitrate, very nice list!

But wouldn't such a wideness be a against the reglement of LM-GTR sport cars? AFAIK only cars with a max wideness of 2000mm are allowed, could be wrong though.

 

[SpuddieT]

I pressed the "Analog" Button on my pS2 controller??? I did it I think and now I cant feel any vibrations at all.Even tho the controller is set to vibrate.Could I have wrecked my controller?? The reason I ask is I was racing this morning and crashed and I pounded my controller a couple of times!!! I dunno if during this I managed to smash it.It works fine otherwise I just cant feel any thing....Any ideas guys???

 

[Fangio]

Salutations to the land of Marley, and Tosh!
Spuddie, hast though considered that the problem lies not in yon controller, but rather, a lack of feeling in your digits, due to some cosmic retribution for your obvious abuse of your equipment?
Just a random thought
Your Helpful Servant
Fangio

 

[szymoniec]

Like Fangio said, you have probably damaged your vibration engines. For the next time try to be gentle with your controllers

 

[SpuddieT]

Salutations to the land of Marley, and Tosh!
Spuddie, hast though considered that the problem lies not in yon controller, but rather, a lack of feeling in your digits, due to some cosmic retribution for your obvious abuse of your equipment?
Just a random thought
Your Helpful Servant
Fangio

Aaahh i see you are familiar with the music Fangio:tup: .....I dont think its some kind of retribution however...I guess I just pounded the controller into oblivion!!! I bought a new one today and that one works fine. I guess Ill take both you and szymoniec's advice and not take out my frustrations on the controller!!! But you have to admit tho, one does get emotional when playing GT4 doesnt one???

 

[norurb]

I'm racing the 1000miler with a '66 AC Cars 427 S/C. Why don't the other cars have to pit like I do?

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

I'm racing the 1000miler with a '66 AC Cars 427 S/C. Why don't the other cars have to pit like I do?

Because other than if a line-up includes an AC 427, none of the AI cars have the kind of ridiculous HP and power to weight ratio the AC 427 has. The AC, especially when not driven correctly will eat through tires very quickly.

(if you hear your tires screech in corners your entering the corner with too much speed and ripping through your tread)

In addition, even if you drive it cautiously, it will still drink its fuel at a much faster pace then any of the other AI cars. In most cases as much as three times as fast as the other AI cars.

However, considering how the AC 427 completely over matches the competition, even if you pitted three times more than the AI cars you should still easily win any of these races.

This is why many, including myself, would recommend you use a car that is more evenly matched against the AI. For info, tips and suggestions, I would recommend you check out this thread and this thread.

Choosing a less powerful car will not only allow you to have fewer pit stops, but will result in a much more competitive race.

 

[Stevisiov]

Because other than if a line-up includes an AC 427, none of the AI cars have the kind of ridiculous HP and power to weight ratio the AC 427 has. The AC, especially when not driven correctly will eat through tires very quickly

Having a high power to weight ratio is not necessarily going to cause your tires to ware out quickly. If a car weighed 100kg and had 200bhp it would have a very high power to weight ratio but it wouldn't ware its tires out very quickly. It is as you said the high HP that causes the tires to ware out fast, and high weight will also cause tires ware out quickly. To have a high power/weight ratio you need high power and low weight, not high power and high weight (which is a combination that eats tire tread). Unless you consider that the high power and low weight allows the car to travel at higher speeds which could potentially ware the tread out very fast however this tends to be marginal compared to the impact weight has alone. There are other factors of course including the amount of downforce, or the amount of torque at certain revs.

I hope that makes things clearer.
So if you want to keep your tires to last longer here are some tips

>Obvious first- choose the hardest compound tire possible

>Reduce as much weight as possible

>Reduce downforce as you can without compromising the car handling(this should be at a minimum anyway on the AC unless you have bought a rear wing. I don't think you can buy one for the AC but just in case you can.

>Avoid putting turbo's on your car(its fast enough to beat the AI in this race anyway)

>Check the torque curve of the AC, you may be able to avoid high amounts of torque at high RPM's by earlier shifting if you use manual transmission(It is unlikely with the type of engine the AC has but its worth a check)

>If your still pitting far to much then try whacking up the Driving Aids, preferably the Traction Control System, But increasing the Active Stability Monitoring couldn't hurt.

>Finally I would suggest try using Bob. While Bob may be cretinously slow he is a very conservative driver, with a very similar driving style to the AI, He will insist on getting as much laps out of his tires as possible.

There are more ways of being economic with your tires like tinkering with your suspension setup but it isn't worth worrying about to much. Most of these can be applied to all endurance events.

If anybody feels I have missed anything please feel free to pitch in

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Having a high power to weight ratio is not necessarily going to cause your tires to ware out quickly.

Yes, which is also why I mentioned the high HP. I was trying to make it as least complicated as possible to answer the question on reasons why he, and the AC 427 in particular, must pit more often then the other cars in that series (this is true even when driven by the AI or B-spec Bob), but your explanation is excellent just the same.

 

[Stevisiov]

yeh sorry, I have a bad habbit of over analysis

 

[Scaff]

Having a high power to weight ratio is not necessarily going to cause your tires to ware out quickly. If a car weighed 100kg and had 200bhp it would have a very high power to weight ratio but it wouldn't ware its tires out very quickly. It is as you said the high HP that causes the tires to ware out fast, and high weight will also cause tires ware out quickly. To have a high power/weight ratio you need high power and low weight, not high power and high weight (which is a combination that eats tire tread). Unless you consider that the high power and low weight allows the car to travel at higher speeds which could potentially ware the tread out very fast however this tends to be marginal compared to the impact weight has alone. There are other factors of course including the amount of downforce, or the amount of torque at certain revs.

I hope that makes things clearer.

*SNIP*

If anybody feels I have missed anything please feel free to pitch in

Don't mind if I do.

A slight correction, power is not the principal problem with tyre wear, torque is. Engine horsepower will always suffer from drivetrain losses, anywere from 15% to 25% depending on the actual drivetrain in question. Engine torque (while still suffering from frictional drivetrain losses), being a measure of work, is increased by the drivetrain. Effectively it is multiplied by the selected gear ratio and the final drive, its for this reason that even the most lowly car can spin its driven tyres in 1st gear. Because, unlike power, torque is increased from the engine to the wheels, its a far more influential factor.

Of course power and torque are related, but its the latter thats doing the majority of the damage here.

A high power to weight can also come into the factor, or as you correctly point out a low weight (after all the Veyron has a great PTW but is no lightweight). Lower curb weight means less download on the wheels, which means less grip, which means a great chance of wheelspin, which increases tyre wear. Weight is a tricky one, too little, too much, high load transfer, all of these can cause an increase in tyre wear.

Regards

Scaff

Oh, by the way you mentioned high power and low weight allowing a car to run at higher speeds, weight has no bearing at all on a cars top speed. BHP, aero drag and frontal area are the factors involved.

 

[Danny]

after all the Veyron has a great PTW but is no lightweight

Uh oh Scaff, you said the V-word.

This never leads to good things :S

 

[Stevisiov]

Oh, by the way you mentioned high power and low weight allowing a car to run at higher speeds, weight has no bearing at all on a cars top speed. BHP, aero drag and frontal area are the factors involved.

Cheers, it wasn't my intention to post misleading information, although doesn't weight reduce the rate of acceleration which can cause problems if you can't accelerate to your potential top speed, or am I incorrect in assuming this?

 

[Scaff]

Cheers, it wasn't my intention to post misleading information, although doesn't weight reduce the rate of acceleration which can cause problems if you can't accelerate to your potential top speed, or am I incorrect in assuming this?

Not a problem at all, you are right that weight is an important factor in how quickly a car can get to a given speed (including its top speed), but it doesn't play a part in determining what that top speed is. Take two cars with the same power output, but differing weights (and identical in every other way). They will both be able to achieve the same top speed, but the heavier car will take longer to get to that top speed.

Regards

Scaff

 

[ImprezaAddict]

I just got back to GT4 with my sadly glitched 99.8% save with all 720+ cars in my garage. I of course haven't used them all, and I notice that if you haven't driven the car, you most likely won't be able to see Power and the other stat in the list (I forget). Is there a way to be able to see these stats without getting on every single car?

 

[Famine]

You can select the fields to view (Power, Weight, PWR, Country of Origin, Drivetrain, Price and probably one or two other things I've forgotten) in the main garage overview. You can view two different fields simultaneously.

 

[mark032]

Have you seen the new BMW M3?!!!!! Who can tell me one car that is better than this?

 

[D-Mind]

Famine, that doesn't work, i have the same Savegame as Impreza Addict.
Answer:

They were cheated in there; the normally only available as used cars have 0,0mileage. You have to select them if you want to view stats.

 

[Metar]

What about being in the choosing-screen, yet selecting the 'View Stats'?

Obviously the part where they were cheated in should explain the phenomen?

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

I just got back to GT4 with my sadly glitched 99.8% save with all 720+ cars in my garage. I of course haven't used them all, and I notice that if you haven't driven the car, you most likely won't be able to see Power and the other stat in the list (I forget). Is there a way to be able to see these stats without getting on every single car?

It sounds like you have a game save that used a cheat to get the cars. For any car that was attained via a cheat, the stats will only show up in the sort capable garage list once you actually select it from the garage. Once you do that, the stats for that car will now show up in that list.

In addition, any car you get from a cheat will be as if it was bought new at a dealer, and like all other cars, you'll need to change its oil to see what the max stock HP & TQ stats are.

 

[Sharky.]

B-Spec is running the Nurb 24h as I write this... 6h 30min gone, he has a one lap lead over the Alfa 155 DTM (he's using the Suzuki GSX-R).

FGT, here I come!

edit: 11h 30min gone, 2 lap lead

edit: 21h 30min done, 3 lap lead

edit: Done! Won by 4 laps (195 laps total). Got the "Australia" (ugh)-coloured FGT.