GT4 Rallye Challenge

Rallye Challenge

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It seems many people complain about lack of rally events in latest GT games which is why I decided to build a small challenge as a homage to crop of events we had in Gran Turismo 4.

The rules are simple. Pick one car from the following list below, upgrade it within the restrictions and run number of consecutive* laps listed for each of the listed circuits. Submit your laps to Matej via Conversation mode along with the power and weight values of your car. The two laps between which consistency will be valuated are going to be selected randomly. This ensures all players have identical chances regardless of what car they are driving.

Laps must be run in Free Run / Practice mode but turn off the ghost mode** while driving. Avoid hitting walls as much as possible. View replay after running to write down all required consecutive laps.

Your submission should look like this:

GT4 Rallye Round (# of round) Times

Driver: 'your profile name'
Car: 'full name of your car'
P/W: 'horsepower and weight figures of your car'

'course name'
'required lap'
Lap x: 'lap time'
Lap y: 'lap time'
...
list as many laps as circuit requires

Results will be announced as soon as I receive all times from participants. Therefore, you have unlimited time to send your results but do not delay for longer than really necessary.

Driver needs to submit number of consecutive laps on each course. Then, Two Target Laps laps will be randomly chosen and consistency between them valuated. Here is an example:

Ice Arena
Laps: 4
Two Target Laps: 2 & 3

Lap 4: 1'00.678
Lap 5: 1'00.500 (2)
Lap 6: 1'00.700 (3)
Lap 7: 1'00.555
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Difference: 0'00.200 sec

For Ice Arena you would get 0'00.200 penalty seconds. Driver with the least penalty times at the end of the championship wins. The two target laps get randomly chosen for each course. This system allows each driver to stay competitive regardless how fast or slow he drives. If a driver doesn't submit laps for particular course or his submission is invalid he will get extra penalty times per circuit.

All in all, be as much consistent as possible.

*By consecutive I mean in a row. For example, lap 4 & 5 or 10, 11 & 12 but not 4 & 7 or 10, 12 & 13. Best Lap and Last Lap display should be your best guide.

**Press Up on D-pad. If not, try Select. If that doesn't work either, then you must have changed the controller settings, check it.

Car list:

Round 5

Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evolution II Rally Car '86
Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car '85
Ford RS200 Rally Car '85
Toyota RSC Rally Raid Car '02
Mitsubishi Starion 4WD Rally Car '84
Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85
Lancia Stratos Rally Car '77
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Cars were chosen to give the best diversity of drivetrains, power and weight.

Tuning restrictions:

Round 5

General power: Default !​

Turbo: No
Tyres: Dirt or Snow or Racing Hard (R2) Tires
Others: Yes​

You can adjust already equipped parts
Usage of Nitro or GT Wing is not allowed
TCS and ASM are not allowed on Dirt and Snow surfaces, otherwise optional​

Course list:

Round 5

George V Paris - 3 laps
Swiss Alps - 3 laps
Chamonix Reverse - 3 laps
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Results

Round 1
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Spoiler: Round 1

A = DurWinning in Toyota MR2 1600 G '86 with 129 hp on 1052 kg
B = Harsk100 in Lotus Elan S1 '62 with 130 hp on 619 kg
C = Shotamagee in Mitshubishi Lancer 1600 GSR '73 with 110 hp on 825 kg
D = Matej in Autobianchi A112 Abarth '79 with 77 hp on 679 kg
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Ice Arena
Laps: N/A

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A: 0'56.191 - 0'55.959 = 0'00.232 sec

B: 0'51.637 -0'51.079 = 0'00.558 sec
C: 0'57.745 - 0'57.744 = 0'00.001 sec
D: 1'02.148 - 1'02.129 = 0'00.019 sec
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Grand Canyon
Laps: N/A

A: 2'58.618 - 2'58.483 = 0'00.135 sec
B: 2'43.763 - 2'43.472 = 0'00.291 sec
C: 3'03.749 - 3'03.742 = 0'00.007 sec
D: 3'15.989 - 3'15.915 = 0'00.074 sec
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Chatedral Rocks II Reverse
Laps: N/A

A: 1'21.168 - 1'20.876 = 0'00.292 sec
B: 1'13.462 - 1'13.090 = 0'00.372 sec
C: 1'21.576 - 1'21.564 = 0'00.009 sec
D: 1'28.601 - 1'28.486 = 0'00.115 sec

Total Round 1

+0'00.017 Shotamagee
+0'00.208 Matej
+0'00.659 DurWinning
+0'01.221 Harsk100
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Round 2
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Spoiler: Round 2

A = DurWinning in Audi Quattro '82 with 230 hp on 1173 kg
B = Harsk100 in Peugeot 205 T16 '85 with 200 hp on 1145 kg
C = Shotamagee in Alpine A110S '73 with 141 hp on 715 kg
D = Matej in BMW 2002 Turbo '73 with 179 hp on 1080 kg

Tsukuba Wet
Laps: 3 & 4
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A: 1'18.872 - 1'17.725 = 0'01.147 sec
B: 1'28.533 - 1'28.459 = 0'00.074 sec
C: 1'16.881 - 1'16.681 = 0'00.200 sec
D: 1'19.108 - 1'19.070 = 0'00.038 sec

Tahiti Maze
Laps: 1 & 4

A: 2'35.232 - 2'34.207 = 0'01.205 sec
B: 3'09.786 - 3'09.772 = 0'00.014 sec
C: 2'38.491 - 2'38.489 = 0'00.002 sec
D: 2'41.921 - 2'41.588 = 0'00.333 sec

Chamonix
Laps: 2 & 3

A: 2'36.107 - 2'35.940 = 0'00.167 sec
B: 2'55.044 - 2'55.025 = 0'00.019 sec
C: 2'35.478 - 2'35.165 = 0'00.313 sec
D: 2'41.356 - 2'41.172 = 0'00.184 sec

Total Round 2

+0'00.107 Harsk100
+0'00.515 Shotamagee
+0'00.555 Matej
+0'02.519 DurWinning

Special:

Shotamagee
Tsukuba Wet
Lap 4: 1:16.839
Lap 5: 1:16:862
Lap 6: 1:16.881
Lap 7: 1:16.681

Tahiti Maze
Lap 2: 2:38.491
Lap 3: 2:38.732
Lap 4: 2:38.567
Lap 5: 2:38.489

Chamonix
Lap 1: 2:35.362
Lap 2: 2:35.165
Lap 3: 2:35.478

Harsk100
Tsukuba Wet
Lap 1: 1'28.561
Lap 2: 1'28.542
Lap 3: 1'28.533
Lap 4: 1'28.459

Tahiti Maze
Lap 1: 3'09.772
Lap 2: 3'09.785
Lap 3: 3'09.782
Lap 4: 3'09.786

Chamonix
Lap 1: 2'55.033
Lap 2: 2'55.044
Lap 3: 2'55.025

DurWinning
Tsukuba Wet
Lap 1: 1:17:601
Lap 2: 1:18:829
Lap 3: 1:18:872
Lap 4: 1:17:725

Tahiti Maze
Lap 5: 2:35:232
Lap 6: 2:34:756
Lap 7: 2:34:755
Lap 8: 2:34:207

Chamonix
Lap 1: 2:36:601
Lap 2: 2:36:107
Lap 3: 2:35:940

Matej
Tsukuba Wet
Lap 1: 1’19.388
Lap 2: 1’19.254
Lap 3: 1’19.108
Lap 4: 1’19.070

Tahiti Maze
Lap 3: 2’41.588
Lap 4: 2’41.735
Lap 5: 2’41.779
Lap 6: 2’41.921

Chamonix
Lap 2: 2’40.911
Lap 3: 2’41.172
Lap 4: 2’41.356

Round 3

Spoiler: Round 3

A = Harsk100 in RUF BTR '86 with 610 hp on 1109 kg
B = Shotamagee in Ford RS200 '84 with 250 hp on 1180 kg
C = Matej in Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R '65 with 311 hp on 1268 kg

Citta Di Aria
Laps: 1 & 3

A: 3'14.799 - 3'14.784 = 0'00.015 sec
B: 1'46.411 - 1'46.369 = 0'00.042 sec
C: 1'46.348 - 1'46.029 = 0'00.319 sec

Swiss Alps Reverse
Laps: 2 & 3

A: 2'13.706 - 2'13.687 = 0'00.019 sec
B: 1'40.237 - 1'40.091 = 0'00.146 sec
C: 1'43.762 - 1'43.148 = 0'00.614 sec

Chatedral Rocks I
Laps: 2 & 3

A: 2'21.701 - 2'21.685 = 0'00.016 sec
B: 1'57.155 - 1'56.955 = 0'00.200 sec
C: 1'59.359 - 1'59.245 = 0'00.114 sec

Total Round 3

+0'00.050 Harsk100
+0'00.388 Shotamagee
+0'01.047 Matej

Special:

Shotamagee
Citta de Aria
Lap 4: 1:46.369
Lap 5: 1:46.492
Lap 6: 1:46.411

Swiss Alps Reverse
Lap 1: 1:40.007
Lap 2: 1:40.091
Lap 3: 1:40.237
Lap 4: 1:40.179

Cathedral Rocks I
Lap 5: 1:57.099
Lap 6: 1:57.155
Lap 7: 1:56.955

Harsk100
Citta d'Aria
Lap 1: 3'14.784
Lap 2: 3'14.809
Lap 3: 3'14.799

Swiss Alps Reverse
Lap 1: 2'13.714
Lap 2: 2'13.706
Lap 3: 2'13.687
Lap 4: 2'13.809

Cathedral Rocks Trail I
Lap 1: 2'21.674
Lap 2: 2'21.685
Lap 3: 2'21.701

Matej
Citta d'Aria
Lap 1: 1'46.348
Lap 2: 1'46.018
Lap 3: 1'46.029

Swiss Alps Reverse
Lap 1: 1'43.511
Lap 2: 1'43.762
Lap 3: 1'43.148
Lap 4: 1'43.508

Cathedral Rocks Trail I
Lap 1: 1'59.515
Lap 2: 1'59.359
Lap 3: 1'59.245

Round 4

Spoiler: Round 4

A = Harsk100 in Toyota Corolla Rally Car '98 with 300 hp on 1230 kg
B = Shotamagee in Subaru Impreza Rally Car '99 with 318 hp on 1230 kg
C = Matej in Ford Escort Rally Car '98 with 300 hp on 1230 kg

Costa di Amalfi Reverse
Laps: 1 & 2

A: 2'48.839 - 2'48.782 = 0'00.057 sec
B: 2'04.144 - 2'04.122 = 0'00.022 sec
C: 2'07.924 - 2'07.800 = 0'00.124 sec

Ice Arena Reverse
Laps: 2 & 3

A: 0'58.351 - 0'58.295 = 0'00.056 sec
B: 0'51.145 - 0'51.111 = 0'00.034 sec
C: 0'53.342 - 0'52.961 = 0'00.381 sec

Tahiti Maze Reverse
Laps: 1 & 3

A: 2'43.692 - 2'43.584 = 0'00.108 sec
B: 2'22.493 - 2'22.459 = 0'00.034 sec
C: 2'26.034 - 2'25.603 = 0'00.431 sec

Total Round 4

+0'00.090 Shotamagee
+0'00.221 Harsk100
+0'00.936 Matej

Special:

Shotamagee
Costa Di Amalfi Reverse
Lap 4: 2:04.122
Lap 5: 2:04.144
Lap 6: 2:04.127

Ice Arena Reverse
Lap 11: 51.093
Lap 12: 51.111
Lap 13: 51.145
Lap 14: 51.088
Lap 15: 51.216

Tahiti Maze Reverse
Lap 1: 2:22.459
Lap 2: 2:22.561
Lap 3: 2:22.493

Harsk100
Costa di Amalfi Reverse
Lap 1: 2'48.782
Lap 2: 2'48.839
Lap 3: 2'48.772

Ice Arena Reverse
Lap 1: 0'58.383
Lap 2: 0'58.295
Lap 3: 0'58.351
Lap 4: 0'58.335
Lap 5: 0'58.322

Tahiti Maze Reverse
Lap 1: 2'43.692
Lap 2: 2'43.671
Lap 3: 2'43.584

Matej
Costa di Amalfi Reverse
Lap 1: 2'07.800
Lap 2: 2'07.924
Lap 3: 2'07.779

Ice Arena Reverse
Lap 1: 0'52.833
Lap 2: 0'53.342
Lap 3: 0'52.961
Lap 4: 0'51.993
Lap 5: 0'51.926

Tahiti Maze Reverse
Lap 1: 2'25.603
Lap 2: 2'25.630
Lap 3: 2'26.034

Round 5

Spoiler: Round 5

A = Harsk100 in Toyota RSC Rally Raid Car '02 with 417 hp on 1000 kg
B = Shotamagee in Lancia Stratos Rally Car '77 with 291 hp on 880 kg
C = Matej in Mitsubishi Starion 4WD Rally Car '84 with 360 hp on 1250 kg

George V Paris
Laps: 1 & 3

A: 1'27.394 - 1'27.379 = 0'00.015 sec
B: 1'24.090 - 1'23.870 = 0'00.220 sec
C: 1'28.492 - 1'28.488 = 0'00.004 sec

Swiss Alps
Laps: 1 & 3

A: 1'35.242 - 1'35.229 = 0'00.013 sec
B: 1'38.183 - 1'37.928 = 0'00.255 sec
C: 1'35.966 - 1'35.916 = 0'00.050 sec

Chamonix Reverse
Laps: 2 & 3

A: 2'35.541 - 2'35.491 = 0'00.050 sec
B: 2'35.106 - 2'34.983 = 0'00.123 sec
C: 2'27.152 - 2'27.083 = 0'00.069 sec

Total Round 5

+0'00.078 Harsk100
+0'00.123 Matej
+0'00.598 Shotamagee

Special:

Shotamagee
George V Paris
Lap 2: 1:23.870
Lap 3: 1:24.091
Lap 4: 1:24.090

Swiss Alps
Lap 2: 1:37.928
Lap 3: 1:37.987
Lap 4: 1:38.183

Chamonix Reverse
Lap 1: 2:35.099
Lap 2: 2:35.106
Lap 3: 2:34.983

Harsk100
George V Paris
Lap 1: 1'27.379
Lap 2: 1'27.395
Lap 3: 1'27.394

Swiss Alps
Lap 1: 1'35.229
Lap 2: 1'35.230
Lap 3: 1'35.242

Chamonix Reverse
Lap 1: 2'35.584
Lap 2: 2'35.541
Lap 3: 2'35.491

Matej
George V Paris
Lap 1: 1'28.492
Lap 2: 1'28.445
Lap 3: 1'28.488

Swiss Alps
Lap 1: 1'35.966
Lap 2: 1'35.901
Lap 3: 1'35.916

Chamonix Reverse
Lap 1: 2'27.268
Lap 2: 2'27.152
Lap 3: 2'27.083

Total Penalty Seconds

+ 0'01.608 Shotamagee
+ 0'01.677 Harsk100
+ 0'02.869 Matej
+ 0'03.178 DurWinning

Stages Won

7 - Shotamagee & Harsk100
2 - Matej
0 - DurWinning
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Rallye Winner ​

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Shotamagee ​

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I'm in how long have I got to do this?

 

I have updated the rule...

Submit your laps to Matej via Conversation mode along with the power and weight values of your car.

...and added new one:

Results will be announced as soon as I receive all times from participants. Therefore, you have unlimited time to send your results but do not delay for longer than really necessary.

Welcome aboard Shotamagee ! But I advise you to wait with the racing until we get another player. There is no point in running a challenge with only two drivers on the grid. Unless you are really eager to do so.

 

how do you turn the ghost off?

 

Press Up on D-pad. If that doesn't work then you must have changed the controller settings, check it.

Are you willing to participate RetroDriver ?

 

Nice challenge! I was going to do that, but I'll participate anyway. I love rally!

So, what is the first round of Rallye challenge?

 

I saw your initiation several days ago but I thought you would be too occupied with the time trial you've started in Tourist Trophy forum, so I couldn't resist for any longer.

Ok, with three drivers on the grid we can commence with the challenge.

Currently we are running round 1 on Ice Arena, Grand Canyon and Cathedral Rocks II Reverse. Pick one car from the lot, mind the tuning restrictions and run two consecutive laps on each of the listed tracks. You can do the tracks in any order. Submit times to me via Conversation mode.

The idea is to run through as many scenarios as possible. Once we complete this round I will pronounce new selection of cars and tracks. Please, submit here your choice of car along with power and weight values. Cars are not exclusive but it would be great to see as many different drivetrains as possible.

 

OK, Cool. But should I drive the same car during all rounds? Or I can drive an different car each round?

I'll send you a PM.

 

Every round has eligible list of cars from which you can choose one you like. Once we hit round two, eligible car list will change, so you won't be able to use round 1 car anyway.

 

OK. But in Round 1, only the best lap time will count, right?

 

What counts is the difference between two submitted laps per circuit. Those laps doesn't have to be the fastest but consecutive, that is what is very important. For example, lap 4 & 5 may not be you best laps (let's say lap 11 is your best)but if difference between them is minimal, they would make a great submission.

 

OK. But I only save my best lap times.

 

I have also read you PM and I have a feeling this may lead us to another set of misunderstandings, so I'm going to post an example of how submission should look like:

GT4 Rallye Round 1 Times

Driver: Harsk100
Car: Mini Marcos GT '70
P/W: 105hp/559kg

Ice Arena
Lap 4: 1'00.678
Lap 5: 1'00.500

Grand Canyon
Lap 6: 3'00.478
Lap 7: 3'00.351

Chatedral Rocks II Reverse
Lap 12: 1'23.801
Lap 13: 1'23.756

And that is all, leave the rest to me. Don't forget to add appropriate headline because I don't want to view you times before it is neccesary.
Your two consecutive laps on each circuit doesn't have to be the fastest. I recommend everyone to view replay after running to check between what two laps you had the best consistency (because margin between laps is what counts). Problem with GT4 is that HUD displays only your best and last lap and those two in most cases aren't consecutive or the closese you have set.

You can also run your laps in Photo Drive mode in case your replay in Free Run / Practice mode doesn't display every single lap you have made.

Today I'm going to try few cars and pronounce my choice. Official choice should be pronounced in the thread.

 

Ah! OK. I'll try again.

 

I got one question: Will points be attributed in this challenge?

 

I'd like to participate but I have one question. Will this thread be updated on a constant bases? I tried doing a challenge in GT2 and the guy didn't update the thread in god knows how long. If this is updated I'll be happy to join.

 

Yeah I'll give it a go

 

Yes, certainly. Drivers will be rewarded with penalty points, a system I implemented in other similar challenges. You get one penalty point per randomly (for each course) chosen limit if your laps are not that consistent. I'll show you an example:


Ice Arena
Lap 4: 1'00.678
Lap 5: 1'00.500
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Difference: 0'00.178 sec
Limit: 1 point per 0'00.050

That means that for Ice Arena you would get 3 penalty points. Driver with the least points at the end of championship wins. The limit gets randomly chosen for each course and can vary. This system allows each driver to stay competitive regardless how fast or slow he drives.

All in all, be as much consistent as possible.

Of course it will be updated regulary. You can join without doubts.

Welcome abroad RetroDriver.

With five drivers currently on the grid I should introduce the ability to form a team. Simply team up with another driver, name the team and collect points together. A driver who remains alone will have to form its own team and drive another different car for imaginary team member.

Let me know what works best for you guys. Soon I will update the first post with essential elements to keep everything at one place.

 

Alright. Sign me up. I just got to figure out which vehicle to use.

 

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I tested a few cars from the list. So far, the fastest car from the list for me was the Lotus Elan S1.

OK. I know that there is an penalty point, but no points system?

So, the people with less points wins the championship, right?

My team is: Harsk World Motorsports

My (imaginary) racing number is #96.

I think that we should have an imaginary racing numbers... What do you think?

 

Do we have to choice from the list? I have a few cars that I'm looking at. They look ok to use but I want to know first.

 

That's exactly that I was wondering.

 

No standard points system, that is correct. Only penalty points. The less penalty points you have, the better your position is. You can have number if you want, it is not really important.

What do you mean by term choice ? You can test all cars if you want but choose only one that will compete in the round.

 

OK. But imagine if I was putting consecutive lap times 2 and 4. With lap 2 & 4 times, would I get penalized?

 

I have 3 cars I'm looking at. One is on the list the other two are not. I was just wondering if we can use cars not on the list.

 

Your submission would be invalid and you would get extra penalty points. At the moment I'm not sure how much but definetly more than others.

Only cars that are on the list are eligible for competition.

 

OK

 

Ok.

 

I would like to change a tuning rule and limit suspension kit only to Sport type for this round. If this is going to affect tunes you could have already made, please let me know. But if none of you have commited with tuning yet, consider Sport kit as the only eligible kit for this round.