GT4 track you hate most

[Slayer24]

I hate the paris track opera or something there is no where to pass and if you dont have a really fast car pole postion normally wins

 

[AERO_HDT]

The lake is without doubt one of the most technical circuits you're ever likely to come across and those people who don't like it simply can't understand it's nature. Let me put it for you this way.

The first 5 corners are widening radius corners, starting from the hairpin (1st/2nd gear) right up to the high speed left-hander that runs up to Corkscrew which is a 5th gear corner. If you can't get any rhythm from corners that get progressively faster and faster, then you're not dialled in properly.

2nd of all, it's a flat, no camber circuit where understeer is terribly easy and you really need to be wary of punching out of the corners too early. It's going to be a great circuit to race on in GT5 because it's going to be very easy to pressure drivers into understeering into the gravel pits.

As for Red Rock Valley, that is the worst circuit I've ever come across in all my years of Gran Turismo. Highly futuristic, far too much banking, tunnelling and a whole 'NFS' feel about it. RRV can stay dead and buried in my opinion.

New York. I don't car what anyone says, racing through Times Square is un-freaken-believable and it is a must-stay circuit for GT5. Anyone who can't appreciate the freedom of racing through New York without gridlock and being able to pull 250km/h is missing the point...

Tsukuba is a classic little circuit and great for teaching the basics of racecraft. Getting a perfect lap of Tsukie is immensely difficult and when you do hit the sweet spot, it is a very satisfying track to race on.

But seriously, as far as I'm concerned, the ENTIRE rally mode of Gran Turismo can go take a hike and I'd jump for joy if we never saw a rally circuit again. I strongly believe that there are some awesome rally games out there that do rallying so much better than PD can. WRC, Colin, you name it, Gran Turismo is a rally pretender when it comes to these games.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

I agree that rallying could be better in GT, but at the same time, I wouldn´t want to be without the rallycars. Or the tight tarmacrallies around Citta D´Aria or Costa Di Amalfi. But gravel and Ice? Ice Arena is something I can do without, and so is Grand Canyon. But both of those are still more enjoyable than Tsukuba.
Usually people don´t like a track because they are no good at it, but that is not the case with Tsukuba at all. The track is easy, and it´s also easy to find a rythm there, but it is just so boring! It´s short and flat, and consists mainly of hairpins. No elevationchanges, not even a nice scenery! It does become mildly interesting in the wet though...

 

[Raybrig100]

i dont like the rally tracks, gravel and ice, not just because im not good on them, i think the rally on GT feels like its been stuck on just for the sake of it!

on another note ive always loved the original GT tracks!!!

 

[Wolfe]

Usually people don´t like a track because they are no good at it, but that is not the case with Tsukuba at all. The track is easy, and it´s also easy to find a rythm there, but it is just so boring! It´s short and flat, and consists mainly of hairpins. No elevationchanges, not even a nice scenery! It does become mildly interesting in the wet though...

Yeah, Tsukuba isn't a good cruising/casual lapping course. It's best for Best-Motoring-style showdowns.

 

[gt addict]

I can't stand suzuka (the biggest one) and hong kong. Nurburgring is my fav and least fav because every corner is different, but it takes atleast 6minutes a lap. Ice Arena is something I can do without, and so is Grand Canyon. I hate both of them so much!!!

Yeah, Tsukuba isn't a good cruising/casual lapping course. It's best for Best-Motoring-style showdowns.

I don't mind it. I actually find it fun since the laps are short and easy.

 

[arvin charles]

I hate Tsukuba and Test Course the most. It is so boring. Don't get me wrong, I can do consistent and fast laps on on Tsukuba, but I feel like there's just nothing to it. Slow cars or fast cars, it never feels like fun. I hope it's not on GT5.

Seoul is a close second. Fuji is another that I don't particularly enjoy, but it's bearable.

I like Opera Paris, but not George V Paris.

Other than that, I enjoy pretty much all the tracks and I have a favorite section or turn in each.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I hate Tsukuba and Test Course the most. It is so boring. Don't get me wrong, I can do consistent and fast laps on on Tsukuba, but I feel like there's just nothing to it. Slow cars or fast cars, it never feels like fun. I hope it's not on GT5.

The problem with Tsukuba is that it appears too often in sim mode. More races are run on this track in GT4 than at any other. So the actual TRACK isn't something I personally hate..it's the fact that it seems like I'm here at Tsukuba all the time!

 

[Kesl]

Fuji 2005, I can't get the flow there uninspired all the fuji's actually and HK.

 

[notsofast]

Fuji 2005, I can't get the flow there uninspired all the fuji's actually and HK.

Me too, freakin chicanes!! (shakes fist at computer screen)
Fuiji 80's is awesome, it just flows, it makes me smile.

 

[Austin343]

Funny, I find Fuji 80s to be desperately boring, overly simple, and very dependent on power. I love the last section of Fuji 2005 - what a great feeling to get it right! I agree with the common sentiment that Tsukuba is very dull. You're bang on, Parnelli, I've been redoing a lot of races for 200 points and I'm amazed how often I find myself saying "Not 🤬 Tsukuba again!?"

 

[montoya6k]

I loved opera paris its even very good forme when running over 200pts their,i just hate laguna a bit bored their aswell as suzuka,

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Funny, I find Fuji 80s to be desperately boring, overly simple, and very dependent on power. I love the last section of Fuji 2005 - what a great feeling to get it right! I agree with the common sentiment that Tsukuba is very dull. You're bang on, Parnelli, I've been redoing a lot of races for 200 points and I'm amazed how often I find myself saying "Not 🤬 Tsukuba again!?"

I read in that Car & Driver interview that came out last summer that Tsukuba is not far from the Polyphony headquarters, and that the game's designers often visit Tsukuba for a drive...but I still think it appears in too many races.

High Speed Ring doesn't show up enough, on the other hand.

 

[AERO_HDT]

I'm in agreeance with the 'too much Tsukuba' line that's going on, but apparently, the track is highly regarded by Japanese manufacturers who do a lot of their testing there. Nissan, Honda and Mazda run around Tsukuba like it's their Nurburgring apparently.

Don't take my word as gospel though, but I do believe that's what Kazunori said of Tsukuba some years ago.

Fuji 80's isn't fun, it's only 3 corners long, lol, but Fuji 90's is a masterful track that blows the new one into the weeds.

I used to hate Ice Arena until I scored gold in a licence test on it...

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I'm in agreeance with the 'too much Tsukuba' line that's going on, but apparently, the track is highly regarded by Japanese manufacturers who do a lot of their testing there. Nissan, Honda and Mazda run around Tsukuba like it's their Nurburgring apparently.

Don't take my word as gospel though, but I do believe that's what Kazunori said of Tsukuba some years ago.

You're right. Tsukuba is a small track that was described in that Car & Driver artcle as being a bit run-down. But alot of driving & racing still goes on there. The Polyphony staff can sometimes rent the track for a day and drive their own cars around if there's no racing that day.

Fuji 80's isn't fun, it's only 3 corners long, lol, but Fuji 90's is a masterful track that blows the new one into the weeds.

I used to hate Ice Arena until I scored gold in a licence test on it...

Yeah Ice Arena SUCKS. I forgot about the ice tracks, but then again, i haven't driven them much yet.

Last nite I was going for all golds in the I-A license, and I was knocking them out one by one till I got to the damn ice test! And it's so hard to see where the track ends and the snowbank on the side of the road starts...

 

[Skygrasper550]

Ice Arena sucks, Chamonix is fine for me..,

 

[arvin charles]

the track is highly regarded by Japanese manufacturers who do a lot of their testing there. Nissan, Honda and Mazda run around Tsukuba like it's their Nurburgring apparently.

Boring track = boring cars. Is that why the majority of their cars have no soul?*

*I'm being semi-serious. I do own a Miata, which I love as much as my old Porsche 911.

 

[Risei]

The tracks i hate are all the "unflowing" city tracks. So stuff like Hong Kong, George V and Opera Paris, stuff like that. But not the ones like Cote d^Azur and Citti d'Aria

 

[RACECAR]

I have ones that I don't hate, but feel aren't really good.

Street Circuits: The Street Circuits don't feel like street circuits. For instance, Opera Paris Seems to overdue the bumpiness in street circuits, Hong Kong over does the tightness and Seoul lacks any real challenge. To me, Seattle is the best one because there actually is a challenge along with the fact that it has very distinctive elevations.

Real World Circuits: There's very few of these that I found not enjoyable. Fuji 05 is not what I enjoy because it feels too technical. The 90's configuration was challenging and is very fun to go around in an Group C car with Aids turned off.

Dirt/Ice tracks: I think the physics is what made rally feel so different. In GT3 all I did was just turn hard and the cars was sideways and controllable whereas in GT4, you actually have to induce it in such a way and it requires alot more attention. I enjoy grand Canyon Very much as well as Ice arena because those two course are what got me to learn the physics.

 

[6MitchMan]

Nurburgring

 

[Fluke]

tokyo, r246. I hate the layout, i hate the fact that the braking points seem to change every single lap.

I used to dislike the ring too, purely for its length, but after racing around a few times, i quickly came to the conclusion that its the perfect testing ground for new cars.

Glad to be back

 

[Parnelli Bone]

tokyo, r246. I hate the layout, i hate the fact that the braking points seem to change every single lap.

They don't change every lap..unless your tires start off cold, that is. Some of the braking points are a bit vague, though...I'll give you that.

 

[suzq044]

George V sucks a lot. lol

I am a muscle-head; muscle-cars dont turn so well.. lol

 

[Parnelli Bone]

George V sucks a lot. lol

I am a muscle-head; muscle-cars dont turn so well.. lol

Does it? I haven't even driven on George V yet, but I'm about to since I've been tackling special events lately.

 

[David48]

I hate Suzuka (only because I suck at all the sharp turns. It's too advanced for me.) I hate most city courses with sharp corners(Hong Kong, New York, etc. excluding Tokyo r246. And I dread having to race El Capitan. I don't know why, but I hate it. But I love Tsukuba, Sarthe, Nurburging and Fuji 90's.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I hate Suzuka (only because I suck at all the sharp turns. It's too advanced for me.)

Braking points, my man. Find those braking points...turn in...and learn just how much or how little throttle to give as you make these surgical curves. But you gotta learn to brake early and precisely to master Suzuka.

I hate most city courses with sharp corners(Hong Kong, New York, etc. excluding Tokyo r246. And I dread having to race El Capitan. I don't know why, but I hate it.

El Capitan is cake, man! Check it out!

The part where you go under the first tunnel and come out over that hill? The Ai doesn't know how to drive this area at all! They brake 3...4 times during this entire transition from the tunnel, up the hill, at the crest of the hill, and again down the hill.

Those dumbasses!!! Eventually you'll find you might only need to brake once during this entire transition. You'll fly by the Ai as you come down the hill...the main thing you'll need to worry about is NOT HITTING THEM FROM BEHIND as they get scared and slow down way too much.

Other than this, the rest of the track is (again) all about good braking points, tho you don't need to be as precise as you were at Suzuka. A lot of the braking points at this track happen very early (especially in those long undulating curves. Tap your brakes again at any moment as you go thru those longer curves if your car starts to understeer.

 

[Autofreak4986]

I used to dislike Laguna Seca when I was a teen--but when I got GT4 in April 2005, I started to respect it.

If there's one track I can't stand...it'd have to be the Beginner Course. It's hard to finish first in B-Spec mode, even with Steady/Overtake settings or a fast car. It seems strategy is tricky here and luck is DEFINITELY NOT on my side when I have to race this course (even in the Kei-car and lightweight championships). I learned that the first year I got this game, and they were *hard*.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I used to dislike Laguna Seca when I was a teen--but when I got GT4 in April 2005, I started to respect it.

If there's one track I can't stand...it'd have to be the Beginner Course. It's hard to finish first in B-Spec mode, even with Steady/Overtake settings or a fast car.

You'll have more success if you tried A-spec, guaranteed. This track isn't that difficult to master (hence the name Beginner Course).

It seems strategy is tricky here and luck is DEFINITELY NOT on my side when I have to race this course (even in the Kei-car and lightweight championships). I learned that the first year I got this game, and they were *hard*.

The kei-car races are in my opinion some of the best GT4 has to offer. They really put a fight, no question about that. Just because they're low-powered doesn't mean they won't defend their way around the course...and they get very territorial, too. I've seen them spontaneously change their entire racing line (and destroy yours!) if it suits them.

 

[RACECAR]

Braking points, my man. Find those braking points...turn in...and learn just how much or how little throttle to give as you make these surgical curves. But you gotta learn to brake early and precisely to master Suzuka.



El Capitan is cake, man! Check it out!

The part where you go under the first tunnel and come out over that hill? The Ai doesn't know how to drive this area at all! They brake 3...4 times during this entire transition from the tunnel, up the hill, at the crest of the hill, and again down the hill.

Those dumbasses!!! Eventually you'll find you might only need to brake once during this entire transition. YOu'll fly by the Ai as you come down the hill...the main thing you'll need to worry about is NOT HITTING THEM FROM BEHIND as they get scared and slow down way too much.

Other than this, the rest of the track is (again) all about good braking points, tho you don't need to be as precise as you were at Suzuka. Alot of the braking points at this track happen very early (especially in those long undulating curves. Tap your brakes again at any moment as you go thru those longer curves if your car starts to understeer.

You should try El Capitan and Suzuka in a Group C car with Aids off and 1001HP on Medium tires. What a rush!

 

[tigermoth737]

Hong Kong. I remember I did a race there in the Minolta Toyota, I was trying really bloody hard to even hold 4th position. The tyres just wore away so easily. Maybe due to my aggressive driving style, but I absolutely hate that track.