GT4 vs Forza [Let the battle begin]

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xscti, gt3 does not look as good as that TVR shot. Ever. I've played GT3 to death, I know. Gt3 looks pretty awful now, compare it to GTC and you'l see what I mean.

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LOL, just read the one you just posted.
 
At the end of the day, they're still good graphics. Both games have good graphics. GT4 has more realistic graphics. People don't realise that "more realistic" and better aren't always synonimous (sp?).

On the technical side, nobody has ever pointed out that GT3 faked it's shadows horribly, or that the textures on the car models were really blurry, or that there were no real reflections. Those are GRAPHICAL issues. They were compensated for with good artwork and engineering. Nobody seems to realise that texturing different shades and colors to make the cars look more realistic is actually a way to help fake the lighting engine. Everybody notices that Forza has the "colored with a crayon look", and critisize it. That's because it uses a genuine lighting engine, with real time per-pixel shadows, like PGR2 did.

It doesn't look real, but it looks damn pretty. If I'm playing a video game, I'm not going to be fooled into thinking that it's real. I would have to be mentally challenged to do so. So if I were given a choice between "looks more realistic" and "oooooh that's purdy", I'd go with the shiny one with the cool graphical effects and hi-res textures. Hence, I think PGR2 has better graphics then GT3.

GT4 is another matter completely, as they've implemented real time reflections and sweet lighting, as well as sharper textures on the roadside as well as the cars. I still think it's prettier than Forza, but time will tell.
 
Cartoony is the only way to describe forza's look. It doesn't look realistic at all. Sure the cars have more polys then gt4's cars but which game has the more realistic looking cars? Forza looks good compared to games like pgr2 or rsc2 but it's not in gt4's visual league. You know, it looks somewhat like a upgraded Sega GT. Sorry to be bias but I dont think fake looking racers are all that impressive and this thread should be locked.
 
xcsti
THis is the first pic ive seen of forza, and while i don't think it looks cartoony it looks more like GT3 level quality. Does any one have any pics they think truly show off forza's abilities?
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I think PD's experience in creating good fun realistic driving games is what makes me confident that GT4 will be better than Forza. I'm not really concerned by how many pixels each car can have or how the spectators will look though, so maybe forza is better for a person looking for those things. PD has spent 8 years in the busines of accurately simulating the cars, tracks and physics involved.

Edit: I also don't want to control the throttle and brakes with the triggers like you have to in most X-box games.
 
xcsti
I think PD's experience in creating good fun realistic driving games is what makes me confident that GT4 will be better than Forza. I'm not really concerned by how many pixels each car can have or how the spectators will look though, so maybe forza is better for a person looking for those things. PD has spent 8 years in the busines of accurately simulating the cars, tracks and physics involved.

Edit: I also don't want to control the throttle and brakes with the triggers like you have to in most X-box games.
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Wheels are fun. Forza needs a good wheel.
 
First of all, did I see either was real. Second, when I say fake, I mean fake. Just look at forza, I wonder if it's a game or crayon drawing.
 
"You'd have to be retarded to think either of them looked real."

*looks at cobragt*

Cobra, come off it, your a Sony ass kisser, just about everyone knows it. 99% of ANYTHING you say is instantly rubbished. Hell, you think Gt4 looks better then doom 3 *muffled laugh*
 
cobragt
First of all, did I see either was real. Second, when I say fake, I mean fake. Just look at forza, I wonder if it's a game or crayon drawing.
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Sometimes I wonder about people...... :dunce: :dunce: Cobra :dunce: :dunce:
 
code_kev
"You'd have to be retarded to think either of them looked real."

*looks at cobragt*
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LOL. Poor guy.

Hey code, can you display the differences between a crayon drawing and Forza's graphics? You can supplement crayon for MS paint.
 
One thing I'm noticing is.........forza has one main car with a fully modeled shadow while the rest have dark boxes under them. What's up with that? Hmm, maybe gt4 should have one car(the user car) with 3d rims. That wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
kidcodea
why bother with both these titles when enthusia will probably own both in what matters, driving.
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I dont know if enthusia will be as good as gt4 or forza. There isn't alot info on the game.
 
Nice one code but you could have got a more up to date gt4 pic, like one from the latest build and not from a year old build.
 
No it doesnt. The gt4 E3 build has upgraded from the simple gt4p engine which was nothing but a reharsh E3 03 build with the same graphics. Things can change in a years time.
 
Excellent Code kev. Cobra GT's next question: On that note will the "Boulder Mobile" be featured in GT4? I havent seen it on the list. :)

Sorr cobra this is all in good fun, don't let any of this get to you. I commend you for defending GT4 so fervently.
 
cobragt
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Am I suppose to be impressed with this game when it looks this fake
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Come off it Cobra.
Thats a very blurry shot taken from a video, just look at the artifacts.
All the degradation has removed the Edges/Jaggies, then to compare it to probably the worst high res Forza image ive seen so far ( i havent seen many).
Thats hardly Like for like is it.
Im sure we could dig up dozens of dodgy early images for Gt4. We probably thought they were renders at the time.
 
You aren't going to get far with pics from a old build. Since those pics are from the latest forza build, lets get pics of gt4 from its latest build...........instead of getting pics from an old build :indiff:
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Just compare any forza pic to that pic above, you now see why I call forza teh f@k3
 
Problem being that thats what the game will look like when you use your USB printer, not actually in motion on Tv.
 
Official Screen Shot!!

Boulder Dash Car On Nurb Snow!!!

Cobra, just stop it man, your about the only person who still thinks GT4 looks better then doom 3, proof enough of your eye problems I think. And GT4 DOES NOT look like that in game. It will look like GTp, but with some 3d people, and some SLIGHT improvements.

Hell even that shot isn't that impressive, low res textures on the car, stupid looking blacked out windows, and next to no reflective qualities on the bodywork.

You constantly rant on about different builds as if each ones a totally different game, it's not cobra, you can fool your self, but you know I'm right. GT4 will look just like GTp, but abit nicer, which is no bad thing.
 

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Great Nursnow pic!

Let's reiterate cobra: Photomode is not representative of gameplay. Resolution is upped fourfold, not to mention the whole object of photomode is TO MAKE THE PRETTIEST PICTURES YOU CAN, using blur effects, messing with colour saturation, hue, brightness. You name it. I HAVE seen the drag racing vid, and the backgrounds are spiffy, but it does not look like your posted pic.
 
Artist? EH!!! It's in game man! HONEST! PD tested it.

Gt4 looks damn great anyway, we don't need (cobra) to talk crap about it to make it seem anymore brilliant then it allready is.
 

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