GT5 2.0 Disappointment Thread

[diegorborges]

Take note to myself: stay away from the whiney threads.

 

[otakukid96]

The one thing I was disappointed with was that we could still ban driving aids online.

 

[Mac K]

The one thing I was disappointed with was that we could still turn off driving aids.

What? Why would that disappoint you? Just curious.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah the official game does a better job...

To be honnest GT5 doesnt do any type of racing very good... great hotlapping though.

Very true, if GT had an dedicated two disk where one was just production cars and the other was just all racing series cars and an online system where the two could not mix...then yes you'd have a game that was dedicated to both. But having a group of Nascar, JGTC that are up to date a random mix of Le Mans prototypes from different eras, two F1 cars from the same manufactures, and random DTM as well as Rally cars is not doing the idea of racing very well. GT1 - GT3 isn't there nor is BTCC or a true F1. Yes license may be hard to get but I think racing series as a whole might find putting their series on GT beneficial if it means that there is only one dedicated disk to them. Rather than being lumped together with production cars.

 

[otakukid96]

What? Why would that disappoint you? Just curious.

I meant the fact they can still be banned online, I edited my post to fix any more misleading. Anyway, the fact that i'm trying to make is that I am sick and tired of people kicking me from rooms just because of me wanting driving aids whilst being stuck on a controller whilst also hearing everyone else using wheels.

 

[Fogerty_Jr]

Anyway, the fact that i'm trying to make is that I am sick and tired of people kicking me from rooms just because of me wanting driving aids whilst being stuck on a controller whilst also hearing everyone else using wheels.

Oh my god man, I feel your pain.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

I think he wants srf on... Which there are plenty rooms where this is allowed. Funny.-.

Anyways I play it more than ever, it was a beta or not, fact is it wasnt finished at release and maybe never will, but its still an excellent game and its good to see it evolving.

 

[Mac K]

I meant the fact they can still be banned online, I edited my post to fix any more misleading. Anyway, the fact that i'm trying to make is that I am sick and tired of people kicking me from rooms just because of me wanting driving aids whilst being stuck on a controller whilst also hearing everyone else using wheels.

Ya I quoted you before you edited, oops.

 

[otakukid96]

I think he wants srf on... Which there are plenty rooms where this is allowed. Funny.-.

Anyways I play it more than ever, it was a beta or not, fact is it wasnt finished at release and maybe never will, but its still an excellent game and its good to see it evolving.

Well, just not srf, I feel ALL of them should be available ALL of the time, I cannot race clean without at least tc and srf. I can deal with no visible line, but I can never remember the tracks well.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

Well, just not srf, I feel ALL of them should be available ALL of the time, I cannot race clean without at least tc and srf. I can deal with no visible line, but I can never remember the tracks well.

I see, but you know most people dont like assists in a game that calls itself simulator, right? I like the line on too sometimes tho, makes things less stressfull. Anyways theres plenty of rooms provoding what you look for.

 

[toolo4sno]

Very true, if GT had an dedicated two disk where one was just production cars and the other was just all racing series cars and an online system where the two could not mix...then yes you'd have a game that was dedicated to both. But having a group of Nascar, JGTC that are up to date a random mix of Le Mans prototypes from different eras, two F1 cars from the same manufactures, and random DTM as well as Rally cars is not doing the idea of racing very well. GT1 - GT3 isn't there nor is BTCC or a true F1. Yes license may be hard to get but I think racing series as a whole might find putting their series on GT beneficial if it means that there is only one dedicated disk to them. Rather than being lumped together with production cars.

I think it is nice that they have at least a sprinkling of cars from different racing classes. Could I use more F1 cars, yes. Do I understand the licensing limitation, yes. Honestly they should include historic Formula cars that don't need licensing.

The inclusion of NASCAR bums me out, but there are a lot more NASCAR online rooms compared to F1. So I feel lucky enough to have the two Ferraris. I think PD's biggest failures with GT5, as of now, are the lackluster AI and Spec A events. As of Level 25 I've raced 90% online, but every now and then I will bust out a seasonal. I get so turned off when the first AI racer lifts when I pass it. It's so ridiculous that they do that, and ruins any AI race.

 

[Kaprikorn80]

Gotta agree with the original poster.

In short, I'm a gamer, not a race-fanatic. I don't watch all the races every year, but I've been playing since gt2. My thoughts on Spec 2 are as follows: not much seems to have changed.
Ok, there are standard cockpits. I don't use cockpit mode, ever. Just my preference, so don't tell me I'm missing out.
New opening movie. I watched it once, just like the original.
Addition of weather change menu, ok this is something that should have been there in the beginning, glad it finally made it.
Multiple car settings (spec sheets) - maybe the most useful feature of the entire update.
Added 2011 Nascars - great, new cars! Too bad they're nascar.
Added Kaz's GT-R. Another new car! and another gt-r....
... don't think i want to go through everything.

The problem I have is that a lot of these "improvements" are things that should have been in the game to begin with. They're re-inventing the same game with every iteration, re-inventing the same features, and I don't mean revolutionary re-invention, I mean "discovering" the exact same thing as what they had in the past, and calling it a new feature.

The DLC info was extremely disappointing, more skylines? 3 karts? Just two tracks, only one of which people actually wanted. That's not DLC, that's a mini-patch.

Take from this what you will. I love the GT series and have never played forza. But PD has lost the "it" factor. The game is good, but not great. Where's the excitement? Where is the GT history such as all the old tracks? Where are the modern advancements and current-gen cars? But I'm not a racer, I'm a gamer. And this gamer is getting bored.
You may now commence telling me how retarded I am for having an opinion that differs from yours, and I will not care.

 

[mykem]

Gotta agree with the original poster.

In short, I'm a gamer, not a race-fanatic. I don't watch all the races every year, but I've been playing since gt2. My thoughts on Spec 2 are as follows: not much seems to have changed.

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Take from this what you will. I love the GT series and have never played forza. But PD has lost the "it" factor. The game is good, but not great. Where's the excitement? Where is the GT history such as all the old tracks? Where are the modern advancements and current-gen cars? But I'm not a racer, I'm a gamer. And this gamer is getting bored.
You may now commence telling me how retarded I am for having an opinion that differs from yours, and I will not care.

I feel for you but unlike you I'm not a gamer- in fact I hate gaming. My interest in "gaming" has been limited to racing game and sims and it goes back all the way late 1990s. In fact, it's the reason why GT3 (the first GT game I played) turned me off. At the time, I much rather play Geoff Crammond's GP4 or Grand Prix Legend.

It's not until GT5P that the game finally got me. It's mostly has to do with it being a short simple game with more emphasis on driving (and the fact that it works with my G25 is a big plus). The same goes for GT5- having Seasonal events allow me to rack up the cash fairly quickly without having to deal with the tedious gameplay. I much prefer driving a car on a track racing against a clock. And if I want to race against opponent, it's human and not AI.

Ideally, the next GT can cater to both types of players- have one that plays like a game and one that's more like a driving sim.

 

[BWX]

Not disappointed by Spec-II as a whole but wish they expanded on A-Spec. Maybe upped XP limit to 60 or higher, added a bunch of A-Spec races using damage, tire wear, etc.

Maybe had races and series that weren't just 3 or 5 laps, OR huge endurance races.. but had a lot where they were 20 or 30 laps where you would have to pit once or twice. A-Spec is dead as it is except seasonals once in a while. They should have expanded on it for a big update like ''2.0''...

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I think it is nice that they have at least a sprinkling of cars from different racing classes. Could I use more F1 cars, yes. Do I understand the licensing limitation, yes. Honestly they should include historic Formula cars that don't need licensing.

The inclusion of NASCAR bums me out, but there are a lot more NASCAR online rooms compared to F1. So I feel lucky enough to have the two Ferraris. I think PD's biggest failures with GT5, as of now, are the lackluster AI and Spec A events. As of Level 25 I've raced 90% online, but every now and then I will bust out a seasonal. I get so turned off when the first AI racer lifts when I pass it. It's so ridiculous that they do that, and ruins any AI race.

Oh I'm not complaining I couldn't care less at this point there are other games for us to entertain ourselves with and arguing with certain people on here is like spitting at a brick wall expecting it to topple over. I'm glad you somewhat agree with me and you make good points too...I would want what you said in this idealistic version of GT. However, the reason I said if GT was on two disk one for production cars of all kinds, and disk two with all racing cars ranging in eras, then people would/shouldn't (though they will) complain. People could pick and choose to race one disk and go to an online room that only allows those types of cars or the other. Both will have great physics obviously differing due to the car types between the two disk. Yet people would have all the same events they could achieve on one disk just in different ways.

Like on the production car one you'd see a like the wind event where only the best supercars are used but no race cars and then on the other disk same event but only race cars. Also starting and licenses would be the same. In the racing one you would start off with a kart maybe or a sprint mod then work up to F3000, Mazda Star, USAC; finally getting to bigger leagues like DTM, JGTC, LMS, WEC, WRC, NASCAR, BTCC, V8 Super Car and ultimate F1. The other disk would be like now, you just start off with a cheap production car and work up. Instead of levels they'd go back to licenses but just make them a bit tougher and so on. Historic race cars would be won and used for historic Le Mans and World Rally as well as F1 and possibly NASCAR. It's a dream yes, but I think this would shut up all parties (hopefully) and bring a game that has something that everyone can find to love.

 

[Samus]

Not disappointed by Spec-II as a whole but wish they expanded on A-Spec. Maybe upped XP limit to 60 or higher, added a bunch of A-Spec races using damage, tire wear, etc.

Maybe had races and series that weren't just 3 or 5 laps, OR huge endurance races.. but had a lot where they were 20 or 30 laps where you would have to pit once or twice. A-Spec is dead as it is except seasonals once in a while. They should have expanded on it for a big update like ''2.0''...

That's what I don't get, they've had 10 months since release. Now I don't know how game coding works but I can't imagine it would be that hard or time consuming to add hundreds more races to A-Spec. There is nothing new to model, no completely new code to write. Surely all they do to create events is add new variables and then the restrictions. How hard can it have been to do that x300 in the last ten months?

Spec 2.0 could have been huge, "300 new events including 5 new endurance races, full length GT300/500 championships etc". But no, they gave us nothing.

 

[MoLiEG]

That's what I don't get, they've had 10 months since release. Now I don't know how game coding works but I can't imagine it would be that hard or time consuming to add hundreds more races to A-Spec. There is nothing new to model, no completely new code to write. Surely all they do to create events is add new variables and then the restrictions. How hard can it have been to do that x300 in the last ten months?

Spec 2.0 could have been huge, "300 new events including 5 new endurance races, full length GT300/500 championships etc". But no, they gave us nothing.

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GT5's biggest flaw is the lack of A-Spec events ... I can live with standars, lego shadows, the crap engine sounds, the lack of rims and customizacion options... but the amount of events in the game...

 

[SeaWall]

I hate the f@#%&^g delays, thanx gt5

 

[BWX]

That's what I don't get, they've had 10 months since release. Now I don't know how game coding works but I can't imagine it would be that hard or time consuming to add hundreds more races to A-Spec. There is nothing new to model, no completely new code to write. Surely all they do to create events is add new variables and then the restrictions. How hard can it have been to do that x300 in the last ten months?

Spec 2.0 could have been huge, "300 new events including 5 new endurance races, full length GT300/500 championships etc". But no, they gave us nothing.

Yes it would be relatively easy. That's the frustrating part. PD/Kaz just don't give a crap about a good A-Spec experience in GT anymore. This could have been a huge A-Spec update but yet - nothing.

 

[UnionStrike]

That's what I don't get, they've had 10 months since release. Now I don't know how game coding works but I can't imagine it would be that hard or time consuming to add hundreds more races to A-Spec. There is nothing new to model, no completely new code to write. Surely all they do to create events is add new variables and then the restrictions. How hard can it have been to do that x300 in the last ten months?

Spec 2.0 could have been huge, "300 new events including 5 new endurance races, full length GT300/500 championships etc". But no, they gave us nothing.

Are you forgetting about Seasonal races? They have done something already.

 

[Tornado]

Are you forgetting about Seasonal races? They have done something already.

Actual races would be nice. Not band-aid Driving Missions which mostly existed to offset the crappy credit system and are mostly just duplicates of A-Spec races anyways.

 

[daus26]

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GT5's biggest flaw is the lack of A-Spec events ... I can live with standars, lego shadows, the crap engine sounds, the lack of rims and customizacion options... but the amount of events in the game...

Yeah, we could've had a lot more rally events too, and perhaps a new hardcore mode above extreme, where tire damage, mechanical damage, max A.I. aggressiveness, weather, etc. are active. So many features, but minimal events.

 

[Samus]

Are you forgetting about Seasonal races? They have done something already.

Actual races would be nice. Not band-aid Driving Missions which mostly existed to offset the crappy credit system and are mostly just duplicates of A-Spec races anyways.

What he said, plus there still isn't enough (they were two weeks only to begin with and several have gone) and they're all single events of catching the rabbit. There are no equal races and no championships.

 

[LOonIE]

The only thing I really don't like is the cockpit of any standard car (besides the open cars).

The cockpit view of a racing game has to transport the feeling of actually sitting in a car. That's what it 's made for, not for seeing less of th racetrack.
I would not care for the black interior, but why the hell can't you see the hood of your car???
It is completely senseless to black out half of the screen but not to show the car you are sitting in!

I watched some videos of GT Mobile's cockpit cam and PD made it really well there, so why did they add a black paper cockpit at their current flagship racer?

Does PD think we could die if we see a low res textured hood in the game? If that's the case, PD you are wrong!

I was so looking forward to that feature and now it's such a huge disappointment....sad.

 

[Dave_Panic]

On the whole I'm very happy with spec 2. The killer for me is that driving online is still very different to offline. It's makes zero sense for them to be different. In some cars, particularly the F10, the difference is huge.

 

[gt4 madhouse]

My biggest disappointment is that they promised us mid race save but like the cocks they are you cant

 

[kilttraeger]

My biggest disappointment is that they promised us mid race save but like the cocks they are you cant

Here's something for you: , ' .

And I would appreciate if you would tone down your language.

 

[antonh]

I want Autovista, better online with drag racing drift racing with points, time trial offline comparison with friends. At least 150 new premium cars(different),
dirt oval tracks, better menus like forza 4(gt5 menu is too slow).

 

[diegorborges]

I want Autovista, better online with drag racing drift racing with points, time trial offline comparison with friends. At least 150 new premium cars(different),
dirt oval tracks, better menus like forza 4(gt5 menu is too slow).

GO for FM4 then, it has all you want!

 

[ZohsixGT5]

My biggest disappointment is that they promised us mid race save but like the cocks they are you cant

Are you serious? We have been saving mid race for over a week now.