GT6 Official Car List Impressions/Thoughts

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  1. eSZee

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    Technically, it is but to be 100% accurate it would either have to be an Aristo Vertex Edition or the GS300 with the luxury package or something along those lines.
     
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    There's nothing like the idle of a big American V8 is there? If PD could get that right, I'd leave that running at home in the background sometimes instead of music...because it is music!!:bowdown::cheers:
     
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  4. mikull109

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    The IS 200 does exist, it just wasn't sold in North America, but the GS 300 Vertex Edition I'm pretty sure is made up.
    As for the Nissans, the S14 200SX is a Europe/Australian model and is different enough that it featured in a recent Need for Speed title. I think the S14 240SX is supposed to be the North American model, but it uses the same model as the Silvia K's. The other two are clearly the same as the 180SX Type X (same model/specs) and the hatchback wasn't even produced in 1996 outside Japan, so I'm not sure what PD was thinking with that one. All of them have incorrect specs though...
     
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    These would be okay, if they had fully modeled interiors. Because, you know, RHD and LHD.
     
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  6. TokoTurismo

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    It really is haha. Racing it on Ascari's racetrack is gonna be so much fun, and Brands Hatch. :D
     
  7. SlipZtrEm

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    Flipping that argument on its head; if GT6 is such a standard-bearer for great physics and an insane car collection on consoles, shouldn't we expect the "common" choices to be in there? If that physics engine is such a treat, I would expect folks to want to try these cars in such an environment over the standard defense-force response of "go play X game then".
     
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  8. Nissan Cima

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    There are 2 IS200's in the game though. One is the actual IS200 that was sold in Japan and Europe, with the 160 hp 1G-FE (I4) engine, while this supposed "J" version that doesn't exist is an exact copy of the Altezza with the 210 hp 3S-GE (I4) engine. Including the IS300 with the 2JZ-GE (I6) engine that was sold in the U.S. would be better than just making up a car.
     
  9. funnyguy344

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    When I get GT6.. I am going to race. And buy my Honda Odyssey and Mercedes Benz back and get a nova and el Camino and a Cadillac CTS and my rover stromer.
     
  10. PsuPepperoni

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    Well since this “Mercedes-Benz AMG Vision Gran Turismo” thing is not on the official car list, I'm just going to assume theres a whole bunch of stuff missing from that list
     
  11. SlipZtrEm

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    It was announced a long time ago that the made-up Vision GT concepts would be DLC added later, so it's not surprising it wouldn't be on the list, since that's meant to represent the shipped-game version. It's not like they'd list all their planned DLC cars this early ;)
     
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  12. LMSCorvetteGT2

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    Though you doubt it and blow a bit of smoke for PD, let's equalize the playing field and reflect reality, there are plenty of cars from other games and a direct competitor that are unique and GT games will never have. It works both ways, and PD's car implementation is no more unique than others, where PD separate themselves is having companies model cars for the game that are only unique to GT, but production based cars that are different is universal to all sim games.
     
  13. azn_racer

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    It does, it's just more commonly known as an Aristo V300.
     
  14. SlipZtrEm

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    No, an Aristo V300 is Aristo V300. A Lexus GS300 Vertex Edition (with the turbocharged six no less) never, ever existed, but was yet another example of PD's making up imaginary cars to bump the car list up.
     
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  15. sk8er913

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    Im rewatching the GT vision trailer... the first car thats shown is the Mercedes! Second is Bertone, Third is a Volkswagon, Could be possibly be getting the cars in this order?
     
  16. azn_racer

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_GS

    "It was sold as the Toyota Aristo in Japan from 1991 to 2004"

    " In August 1997, the second generation Toyota Aristo was launched in Japan, codenamed JZS160 (S300 version) for models with 2JZ-GE engines and JZS161 (V300 version) for those with 2JZ-GTE twin-turbocharged engines

    2JZ-GTE

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_JZ_engine

    "The 2JZ-GTE is an inline-layout, six-cylinder, belt-driven dual-overhead camshaft, air-intercooled, twin-turbocharged, cast-iron block, aluminium cylinder headed engine"

    The car existed.It's like how yanks call the Mazda MX5 a Miata, or how the Japanese can call it a Eunos Roadster. Different names, same car.

    edit: Here's another Toyota example. The 3rd gen Toyota Soarer is otherwise known as the Lexus SC300/400.

    edit2: Or did you need more proof that the car exists?

    http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-ve...300-Vertex-Edition-2JZ-GTE-W0QQAdIdZ529264310
    http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/7200-gs300-aristo-vertex/

    http://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-second-generation/293980-yummy-v300-vertex-edition.html
    http://www.lucianriders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?style=4&f=70&t=1341
     
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  17. SlipZtrEm

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    Well, seeing as how you haven't provided a bit of proof that a 2JZ-equipped Lexus GS300 Vertex Edition existed, sure.

    I'm not arguing that a Toyota Aristo did - and thus, it's inclusion in GT4/5/6 is fine - but that a Lexus one never did, and PD making up a spec for a car and adding it to the car list is another example of blatant number-padding, in much the same way they did it with the MX-5/Miatas/ER's.
     
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  18. azn_racer

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    Right as it turns out I was partially incorrect, upon closer inspection the Lexus GS300 ran with the non-turbo model and only featured a few exterior mods.

    http://www.trinituner.com/v3/forums/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=520632
    http://dhakacity.olx.com.bd/lexus-gs300-vertex-edition-iid-562085038
    http://toyota-scene.de/forum/showro...426-toyota-aristo-lexus-gs300-vertex-edition/

    Bit better now?
     
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  19. Griffith500

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    Whilst I appreciate the sentiment, I think that, for many people, the car is more important than the physics - especially when you throw driving aids into the mix.

    So why is a game like GT even bothering with the physics? Because, in this current fashion trend of seeming hardcore, it has to in order to "appeal". I don't know that that's how the motivation manifested itself within PD, but it's good for me that it's there.

    GT's main strength in its car selection, for me, has always been about stretching my appreciation outside of what is "common". Or, rather, going beyond what I personally know about, because, whilst my tastes aren't really that "common" (ha), I don't actually know that much about the vast array of cars that come and go in this world. (I do like many of the cars that fit into this "common" category, though - happily, if a particular car isn't in GT6, I am in the position that I could probably find it elsewhere).

    This isn't elitism or my acting the "hipster" (should that be levelled at me again...), but my simple desire to explore. In that sense, I'm personally quite pleased that GT is different with its choice of cars. For those whom the selection isn't good enough, I don't see the issue with recommending a different game instead (and usage of inflammatory terms by a mod is a surprise to me).
     
  20. Ryan81

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    Point taken but since I'm more fond of European cars, perhaps that's why I get more excited about the likes of the R8 Gordini as opposed to the Hudson Hornet for example which I have absolutely no interest in whatsoever.
     
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    I agree wholeheartedly with remarks made by my friend Griffith500 posted some moments ago. My GT5 garage is absolutely crammed to the rafters, the lion's share of them Standards. And in multiples of stock, tuned, and "race modded." And I bought every Countach 88th Anniversary model I could, so I have five or six of them in various modded and painted forms.

    If not for Gran Turismo, I wouldn't have found some delightful diamonds in the rough, and if Kaz decides to weed out the unconverted Standards in GT7, I'm going to have to keep my PS3 and GT6 around for a long time in order to enjoy them.
     
  22. iainoflo85

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    Exactly, there's just so many scrumptious cars in GT5/6 that just happen to be standard (Caterham being a good example) that if they did cull them all and not convert the popular/unique ones to Premium standard then I would probably be in the same boat. Though my PS3s will still get a lot of use out of them even after I buy a PS4 (whenever that'll be).

    I mean I still have a PS2.
     
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  23. LamborghiniSV

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    Yes.
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    I for one am a bit tired of the super car hype. Maybe it's because I'm not in my teens anymore, maybe it's because no console game can recreated the feeling of the turbochargers kicking in in a F40. More than once I discovered strange cars giving me the greatest pleasure in the GT games, so I'm looking forward to being surprised by the cars I never even heard of but are represented in GT6. It wouldn't be the first time as I have already mentioned.
     
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    It is high time that we had a premium Nismo 400R.
     
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    I agree, also where is the Aston Martin DBS and New Vanquish plus Jaguar F type?
     
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    Hyper cars are boring.
     
  28. MX5Racer69

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    I think a lot of people get bent around the axle on the cars, when in my opinion, that's probably the least important aspect of the game. Think for a minute about what a car in a sim really is. It's a 3D model and a set of data points. Those data points, like weight and acceleration, are variables in the physics engine. That's it.

    So to me, what really matters is the ability of the game to accurately simulate real racing. Can you simulate F1 with the combination of lightweight cars, high horsepower and high g turns? Can you simulate Nascar? Can you simulate the V8 Supercar series? The touring car series? Karting? You name it. That's the power of this game to me.
     
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    New hypercars are boring... Although the Huayra is an exception because it is so different.
     
  30. MOV Games

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    To be honest, I personally don't really care for most modern Super/Hypercars. Call me old fashioned, but I feel that all these Electronic aids and Hybrid engines ruin them, and would take any Supercar from the 80's or 90's (or even some 00's) over them in a heartbeat. I can see why some people love them though.