GT6 Seasonals Credit Scam

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I fail to see how credits are an issue in GT6. Credits are plentiful, and not nearly as necessary as they were in GT5.

In GT5, we needed the ability to earn much faster than in GT6. Remember, most cars were only available in the UCD, and only 6 cars were rotated through "per day." So we constantly needed cash on hand, and our bankrolls were limited to 20,000,000. If we blew our wad, we needed to replenish the bankroll IMMEDIATELY to be prepared for the next "day's" rollout in the UCD. None of that urgency is present in GT6.

Now, we have the luxury of time to save up for cars because everything is available 24/7, and our credit ceiling was raised to 50,000,000. With the ability to earn 6,852,000 per hour, courtesy of RedBull, there is no shortage of credits!

Hell, I buy 500,000 cars just for the paint chips! When my balance drops below 47,700,000, I spend 20 minutes in the x2014 and I'm back to 50,000,000. What is there to whine about?
 
Jbaffoh
...snip...I buy 500,000 cars just for the paint chips! When my balance drops below 47,700,000, I spend 20 minutes in the x2014 and I'm back to 50,000,000. What is there to whine about?
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A. No one is whining except you.
B. What is the point of having 100 tracks and 1200 cars if you have to run the same race over and over and over and over, to earn credits to buy cars? It's terrible game design and deserves to be put into the spotlight at every possible opportunity so we can get rid of grinding forever in the GT series, or at least make it optional for those that like to bored to tears as a hobby.

As a minimum, the ENTIRE game should be full of payouts large enough that it sustains your ability to buy, upgrade and maintain your cars. That includes offline career, online, Seasonals and any other part of the game.
 
Now that I have a "new" controller I'm gonna need to try the Redbull changes again, I couldn't control them prior. Nice that we can earn 50 mill now gonna have to go grind after I'm done with this FITT challenge
 
Johnnypenso
A. No one is whining except you.
B. What is the point of having 100 tracks and 1200 cars if you have to run the same race over and over and over and over, to earn credits to buy cars? It's terrible game design and deserves to be put into the spotlight at every possible opportunity so we can get rid of grinding forever in the GT series, or at least make it optional for those that like to bored to tears as a hobby.

As a minimum, the ENTIRE game should be full of payouts large enough that it sustains your ability to buy, upgrade and maintain your cars. That includes offline career, online, Seasonals and any other part of the game.
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I'm not whining, the OP is.

I agree with you that payouts should make the game self sustaining without grinding. But the notion of boycotting seasonals because they could result in a net loss of 100,000 is absolutely ludicrous, when a 3-minute race pays 242,000.

So JP, where in the hell do you read me "whining?" Work on your reading comprehension.

Otaliema
Now that I have a "new" controller I'm gonna need to try the Redbull changes again, I couldn't control them prior. Nice that we can earn 50 mill now gonna have to go grind after I'm done with this FITT challenge
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Frankly, I think the Jr. and Std. championships are the easiest races in the game. Mind numbingly boring, but lucrative.
 
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Try them with a controller that didn't work right. Press the right trigger one time and it's perfect control on the throttle, the next time you tap it and it's full throttle in a hair pin that you need like %20, to get around
 
Otaliema
Try them with a controller that didn't work right. Press the right trigger one time and it's perfect control on the throttle, the next time you tap it and it's full throttle in a hair pin that you need like %20, to get around
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Yikes!
 
Yah even with tc srf and asm it was hard.
I got one now that works perfectly, so looking forward to actually being able to use left foot breaking and throttled steering :)

Tc=understeer
Asm= over under steer depending on when it kicked in. Talk about a jumpy car
 
Jbaffoh
I'm not whining, the OP is.

I agree with you that payouts should make the game self sustaining without grinding. But the notion of boycotting seasonals because they could result in a net loss of 100,000 is absolutely ludicrous, when a 3-minute race pays 242,000.

So JP, where in the hell do you read me "whining?" Work on your reading comprehension.
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The notion that PD, 15 years and several versions into the series, can't figure out how to press the right buttons to create Seasonals whose payouts make sense within the game's economy is what's ludicrous. The OP is expressing his frustration in that regard, and this is after all, the "Reviews and Feedback" section is it not? PD doesn't communicate with it's fans and there's no way to contact them directly, so boycotting Seasonals is really the only way to send them a message isn't it? They don't leave us any other option.
 
Johnnypenso
The notion that PD, 15 years and several versions into the series, can't figure out how to press the right buttons to create Seasonals whose payouts make sense within the game's economy is what's ludicrous. The OP is expressing his frustration in that regard, and this is after all, the "Reviews and Feedback" section is it not? PD doesn't communicate with it's fans and there's no way to contact them directly, so boycotting Seasonals is really the only way to send them a message isn't it? They don't leave us any other option.
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Look who's whining now.
 
TexRex
I never experienced massive payouts in GT5 because I played it for just a few hours after having played GT6, but could it be that GT5 payouts were higher than they should have been? I understand you want more for your time spent, but to get tangled up in knots over it seems silly to me. Play another game (be it on Playstation or another format entirely), get some fresh air, or just veg out if you're frustrated that they don't do things the way you want them to do things.
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The payouts in GT5 might seem a bit high now (and that's only if you're maxed on sign-in bonuses and take advantage of the PP differential bonus), but that wasn't the case before seasonals were introduced. Even with B-Spec Bob driving his brains out for you it was horribly difficult early in the game to progress between earning enough for new cars that were needed and the equally dismal XP system. If you were smart enough to be on GTP in the early days (I wasn't) and knew all about the rotating UCD system that was even MORE pressure to earn at ever-higher levels. GT5 never even truly "came alive" for me until really looking around this site and discovering the possibilities with trading and tickets and whatnot a little over a year ago. So having gotten adjusted to all that was going on in GT5, dang right GT6 is a rip-off. I don't care about hill climbs or drifting or the photo booth or GT Vision....I want good exciting competitive racing throughout the spectrum of cars available, and the payout should reflect the time and cost involved while considering the future costs for hopefully the next levels. Somewhere along the line (and no, I'm not saying this is a "recent" development) PD and Kaz simply decided the way to our hearts was to repeatedly tease then disappoint us.
 
Johnnypenso
What is the point of having 100 tracks and 1200 cars if you have to run the same race over and over and over and over, to earn credits to buy cars? It's terrible game design and deserves to be put into the spotlight at every possible opportunity so we can get rid of grinding forever in the GT series, or at least make it optional...As a minimum, the ENTIRE game should be full of payouts large enough that it sustains your ability to buy, upgrade and maintain your cars. That includes offline career, online, Seasonals and any other part of the game.
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This 100%! Not only is grinding necessary if you want to collect all the cars, but what makes it doubly awful is the insipid mind-numbing drivel of the AI & events you have to grind through. Games are supposed to be fun, & very few people find grinding fun, let alone having to endure the retarded AI in GT6 over & over again.

Make grinding optional through better game design & higher payouts, great idea Johnny. 👍
 
VBR
This 100%! Not only is grinding necessary if you want to collect all the cars, but what makes it doubly awful is the insipid mind-numbing drivel of the AI & events you have to grind through. Games are supposed to be fun, & very few people find grinding fun, let alone having to endure the retarded AI in GT6 over & over again.

Make grinding optional through better game design & higher payouts, great idea Johnny. 👍
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Suddenly that awful song makes sense to me:
" ... It's all about the money .. It's all about the dumb dumb daradumb dumb dumb ..." :sick:

(Could it be their favorite?)
 
strela
Yes I painted some cars in silver chrome and they look preaty good. The gold chrome look fantastic on any wheels specialy whit a matte black combination. The mate paints I used on some old timers. The blue flourescence is a must if you want to build some ricers. And really... I like the ice cream look. ;)
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Well... no point to argue, each to his own, everyone has opinions I guess.
 
Mustangmiha
Well... no point to argue, each to his own, everyone has opinions I guess.
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Of course the beauty is in the eye of beholder. But you guys should really understand the meaning of price paint chips. If they are not unique where is the point of the price? If you like more the championship white colour(for example) you can easily buy it don't you?
I was just responding to a guy who complain there where just some different shades of green and grey and it was not the truth. And for me those paint chips are cool and fun.
And the icecream comment was just out of space in my opinion. You do realise that there are a lot of different icecream collor? Lemon white, Pistachio green, Licorice black, Banana yellow, Cherry red....
Sorry...I don't want to be smart all the time, it's just that... I'm just tired of all the negativeness on this forum...
 
Mustangmiha
Well... no point to argue, each to his own, everyone has opinions I guess.
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As much as I dislike chrome paint on cars, I agree with strela that some of them look good on the alloys and I do use the silver chrome and the two gold chromes on some of my car's wheels. My McLaren F1 GTR is British racing green with the darker gold chrome paint on the wheels and I think it looks awesome.

Jbaffoh
Frankly, I think the Jr. and Std. championships are the easiest races in the game. Mind numbingly boring, but lucrative.
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So you admit they're boring. Wouldn't it be nice if you could earn around the same money whilst actually doing something different? Something like the seasonal races we had in GT5 perhaps?
 
strela
Of course the beauty is in the eye of beholder. But you guys should really understand the meaning of price paint chips. If they are not unique where is the point of the price? If you like more the championship white colour(for example) you can easily buy it don't you?
I was just responding to a guy who complain there where just some different shades of green and grey and it was not the truth. And for me those paint chips are cool and fun.
And the icecream comment was just out of space in my opinion. You do realise that there are a lot of different icecream collor? Lemon white, Pistachio green, Licorice black, Banana yellow, Cherry red....
Sorry...I don't want to be smart all the time, it's just that... I'm just tired of all the negativeness on this forum...
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By 'ice-cream' comment I didn't mean literally an ice-cream, it's a phrase here used sometimes for things that are kind of very colourful and odd. I didn't try to be negative or offensive, sorry for any inconvenience.
86Debris86
As much as I dislike chrome paint on cars, I agree with strela that some of them look good on the alloys and I do use the silver chrome and the two gold chromes on some of my car's wheels. My McLaren F1 GTR is British racing green with the darker gold chrome paint on the wheels and I think it looks awesome.
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I tried putting chrome on wheels once and it looked kind of unrealistic and very shiny, it's a turn-off for me since then. I like my wheels to be kind of plain with non-reflective finish and dirty if possible.
 
86Debris86
So you admit they're boring. Wouldn't it be nice if you could earn around the same money whilst actually doing something different? Something like the seasonal races we had in GT5 perhaps?
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Yes to both, and I clearly agreed with portions of what Penso said.

I simply disagree with the notion that credits are hard to come by, or that the cost of acquiring and tuning cars for biweekly seasonals is somehow onerous. Three 55-second laps at Trial Mountain every two weeks will amply cover the cost. Big deal. Even if a boycott would be felt by PD, this is a silly reason to stop playing the game.

I find some irony in the demands for seasonals to provide repetitive payouts. Don't misunderstand, I would like that, too. But it seems some of the "anti-grinders" are not that at all; they just want more venues in which they can earn credits by repeating the same race over and over again.
 
Jbaffoh
Yes to both, and I clearly agreed with portions of what Penso said.

I simply disagree with the notion that credits are hard to come by, or that the cost of acquiring and tuning cars for biweekly seasonals is somehow onerous. Three 55-second laps at Trial Mountain every two weeks will amply cover the cost. Big deal. Even if a boycott would be felt by PD, this is a silly reason to stop playing the game.
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If you either choose not to repeatedly re-do the RB Standard champ. or buy in-game credits using microtransactions (and missed out on the money glitch earlier on) then credits are hard to come by (when taking the in-game costs of everything into account; purchase of car/tuning/upkeep/restoration). Especially if you don't have a sign in bonus.

As far as a boycott goes, I agree with you.

Jbaffoh
I find some irony in the demands for seasonals to provide repetitive payouts. Don't misunderstand, I would like that, too. But it seems some of the "anti-grinders" are not that at all; they just want more venues in which they can earn credits by repeating the same race over and over again.
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They want different races. New. Freshly added. Not to repeat the same race over and over again. Quite the opposite.

If we have to grind for credits lets at least change the scenery every once in a while. They don't want more venues to repeat. They want more, and more, venues added all the time to reduce the monotony so they can grind a number of different races and not have to repeat. Instead of being forced into doing the same 6 races over and over and over like we have to now, should we need the credits.
 
86Debris86
If you either choose not to repeatedly re-do the RB Standard champ. or buy in-game credits using microtransactions (and missed out on the money glitch earlier on) then credits are hard to come by (when taking the in-game costs of everything into account; purchase of car/tuning/upkeep/restoration). Especially if you don't have a sign in bonus.

As far as a boycott goes, I agree with you.


They want different races. New. Freshly added. Not to repeat the same race over and over again. Quite the opposite.

If we have to grind for credits lets at least change the scenery every once in a while. They don't want more venues to repeat. They want more, and more, venues added all the time to reduce the monotony so they can grind a number of different races and not have to repeat. Instead of being forced into doing the same 6 races over and over and over like we have to now, should we need the credits.
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I agree with everything you said except: (1) People who want repeat payouts for seasonals obviously want to get paid for REPEATING THEM, in addition to gaining new events. Nothing wrong with that. And, (2) The S series races pay well. I used to grind The Ring in different cars.

To the extent there is a "career" mode, some monotony is inevitable. Once a hobby becomes a job, racers are forced to drive races or cars they might not want to--just to put food on the table. Musicians play cover songs at weddings, clubs, whatever to feed their kids and re-string their guitars between their original music tours. Life is a grind for everyone.

I wish PD would start grinding out promised features!
 
86Debris86
If you either choose not to repeatedly re-do the RB Standard champ. or buy in-game credits using microtransactions (and missed out on the money glitch earlier on) then credits are hard to come by (when taking the in-game costs of everything into account; purchase of car/tuning/upkeep/restoration). Especially if you don't have a sign in bonus.

As far as a boycott goes, I agree with you.


They want different races. New. Freshly added. Not to repeat the same race over and over again. Quite the opposite.

If we have to grind for credits lets at least change the scenery every once in a while. They don't want more venues to repeat. They want more, and more, venues added all the time to reduce the monotony so they can grind a number of different races and not have to repeat. Instead of being forced into doing the same 6 races over and over and over like we have to now, should we need the credits.
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This I agree with I finshed .GT6 in three weeks but yet to be done .GT5 after 3 years.
 
Jbaffoh
People who want repeat payouts for seasonals obviously want to get paid for REPEATING THEM, in addition to gaining new events. Nothing wrong with that.
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Of course. Did I state otherwise? I certainly didn't intend to. I simply mean people shouldn't have to repeat them.

Jbaffoh
The S series races pay well. I used to grind The Ring in different cars.
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True but it would be nice to have races that earn good money where we don't need to worry about fuel and tyres in addition to those where we do. I actually do my fair share of that event too, as well as the 10 lap Silverstone event (love nailing Maggots, Becketts and Chapel as fast as possible!)


Jbaffoh
Life is a grind for everyone.
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Which is why we shouldn't really have to grind in something intended to be an escape from life. Variety would make it less arduous.

Jbaffoh
I wish PD would start grinding out promised features!
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:) Something I think everyone can agree with. Me too.
 
Jbaffoh
Hell, I buy 500,000 cars just for the paint chips!
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:lol: Me too! I bought all of the Aston Martin One-77s and a few of the Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09s and subsequently sold them because I'd gotten the paint.
 
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strela
Of course the beauty is in the eye of beholder. But you guys should really understand the meaning of price paint chips. If they are not unique where is the point of the price? If you like more the championship white colour(for example) you can easily buy it don't you?
I was just responding to a guy who complain there where just some different shades of green and grey and it was not the truth. And for me those paint chips are cool and fun.
And the icecream comment was just out of space in my opinion. You do realise that there are a lot of different icecream collor? Lemon white, Pistachio green, Licorice black, Banana yellow, Cherry red....
Sorry...I don't want to be smart all the time, it's just that... I'm just tired of all the negativeness on this forum...
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I wasn't trying to be negative at all when I said I disliked the color chip rewards. I was just throwing my opinion out there, like what you said about liking the gold/silver paint jobs. To be honest, I had no clue that colors like that were available! But even then, I'd personally save those colors for rims.
 
Gyro1780
I very rarely do the seasonals anyway. I find them boring.
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Ditto, the money earned in career, plus the login bonus, plus the Red Bull events give more than enough money for most players.
 
GTP tried a boycott once... Only 12 people actually thought it would do something...

Tis a silly idea.
 
nascarfan1400
GTP tried a boycott once... Only 12 people actually thought it would do something...

Tis a silly idea.
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Meh, I'm on an individual boycott until they add something interesting.

Actually, it's not a boycott, it's simply not worth the effort to put the GT6 disc in the PS3, but the effect is the same.
 
Scape__Goat
Yes I say Credit Scam, I spent 302,000 credits getting my car ready for the seasonal challenge but only won 119,000 credits. Ohh and a really ugly colored paint chip.

I want the game to know that I am very upset with the way they released this game, 3 seasonal every two weeks and each one released will end up costing you credits by the time you are done, I have spent way more so far on credits than what I have won doing the seasonal, and what do I have to show for? paint chips, ugly colored ones at that!

I suggest a boycott of all seasonals and send the game makers a message that we are not all stupid sheep who follow without thought,

I have many other gripes about GT6 but I don't want to take the focus away from the issue at hand!


Seasonals should earn you cars! or at least enough credits to offset the costs of purchasing and tuning the cars, I hope this gets through to them so that we can stop getting ripped off!.


Truly,
Host of online racing, Tuner and clean racer,

Yours,

ScapeGoat!

p.s. BRING BACK SHUFFLE!
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Greetings,
Scam is correct, I've spent a fortune buying credits
Kona
 
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Scape__Goat
Yes I say Credit Scam, I spent 302,000 credits getting my car ready for the seasonal challenge but only won 119,000 credits. Ohh and a really ugly colored paint chip.
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If you're unable to read then I suppose it could appear as a scam. But then again, if you're unable to read you wouldn't notice you've lost any credits either. And you certainly wouldn't be able to post about it here.
 
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