GT6 Seasonals Credit Scam

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Maybe they were listening to those who wanted it more like older GT titles, where you had to put in more hours? The strongest hint we really have is microtransactions being there in the first place, but maybe they're just catering for the times?
 
Maybe they were listening to those who wanted it more like older GT titles, where you had to put in more hours? The strongest hint we really have is microtransactions being there in the first place, but maybe they're just catering for the times?

I can't say I recall having to put more time in on the older games. For one in most of the older games you got repeated prize cars, they were a great way to make money. The proportion of events to cars was already greater.
 
Ooh, you have a business? Wow, I'm impressed. Anyone can have a business, you don't even need to finish school, so I don't know why you're bringing that up, but I applaud you.

My thumbs will never fall off, I use a wheel.

The problem is, everyone just wants something without effort, can't get a car? Do the glitch. Can't win online? Mod the game.

I agree with you that GT6 has lots of room for improvement, but seasonals are by no means a scam. You don't need to grind to get cars, a lot of cars can be bought with $2.2 million credits. If you don't like the Red Bull, find something else to use in a different race. There are decent payouts throughout the game.

Don't like career mode? Play arcade mode. Use courtesy cars. There's no way that PD will please everyone. At least the UCD is gone, so you can buy the cars you want when you get the money.

If you only have an hour or two to play per week, is that PD's fault? No, you made the choice for yourself. So to say you want all the cars available for free at the beginning is just ridiculous. It would take part of the fun out of the game for a lot of people. The payouts are fair, whether you agree or not, credits are easily attained, there is no need to grind to get most cars, yes there should be more prize cars.

But if this game bothers you so much, don't play it, it's pretty simple. Or better yet, buy and Xbox and play Forza, see how you like their in game economy.
 
Ah, "don't like it don't play it". I do like it when that gets pulled out of the hat. Oh wait, it's been combined with "Well X is worse" as well, double whammy!
Don't like career mode? Play arcade mode.

Ah, when did they unlock all cars to drive in Arcade mode? Must've missed that update. Last time I check the game that is supposedly all about just driving cars, not racing them, sure does force you do to a lot of racing to drive certain cars.

The payouts are fair, whether you agree or not

Are you basing that on some factual data, or is it just another cliche "I like it, so you're wrong"?
 
Ooh, you have a business? Wow, I'm impressed. Anyone can have a business, you don't even need to finish school, so I don't know why you're bringing that up, but I applaud you.

My thumbs will never fall off, I use a wheel.

The problem is, everyone just wants something without effort, can't get a car? Do the glitch. Can't win online? Mod the game.

I agree with you that GT6 has lots of room for improvement, but seasonals are by no means a scam. You don't need to grind to get cars, a lot of cars can be bought with $2.2 million credits. If you don't like the Red Bull, find something else to use in a different race. There are decent payouts throughout the game.

Don't like career mode? Play arcade mode. Use courtesy cars. There's no way that PD will please everyone. At least the UCD is gone, so you can buy the cars you want when you get the money.

If you only have an hour or two to play per week, is that PD's fault? No, you made the choice for yourself. So to say you want all the cars available for free at the beginning is just ridiculous. It would take part of the fun out of the game for a lot of people. The payouts are fair, whether you agree or not, credits are easily attained, there is no need to grind to get most cars, yes there should be more prize cars.

But if this game bothers you so much, don't play it, it's pretty simple. Or better yet, buy and Xbox and play Forza, see how you like their in game economy.
Either you didn't read or didn't understand my previous post. Go back and re-read it, especially the second paragraph, and then answer this question:

How is YOUR game experience lessened if you still have the opportunity to play the game exactly as you do now, but I and many others can avoid the parts we don't like by engaging Sandbox Mode and getting straight into driving, tuning and racing online?
 
Ooh, you have a business? Wow, I'm impressed. Anyone can have a business, you don't even need to finish school, so I don't know why you're bringing that up, but I applaud you.

My thumbs will never fall off, I use a wheel.

The problem is, everyone just wants something without effort, can't get a car? Do the glitch. Can't win online? Mod the game.

I agree with you that GT6 has lots of room for improvement, but seasonals are by no means a scam. You don't need to grind to get cars, a lot of cars can be bought with $2.2 million credits. If you don't like the Red Bull, find something else to use in a different race. There are decent payouts throughout the game.

Don't like career mode? Play arcade mode. Use courtesy cars. There's no way that PD will please everyone. At least the UCD is gone, so you can buy the cars you want when you get the money.

If you only have an hour or two to play per week, is that PD's fault? No, you made the choice for yourself. So to say you want all the cars available for free at the beginning is just ridiculous. It would take part of the fun out of the game for a lot of people. The payouts are fair, whether you agree or not, credits are easily attained, there is no need to grind to get most cars, yes there should be more prize cars.

But if this game bothers you so much, don't play it, it's pretty simple. Or better yet, buy and Xbox and play Forza, see how you like their in game economy.

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Ah, "don't like it don't play it". I do like it when that gets pulled out of the hat. Oh wait, it's been combined with "Well X is worse" as well, double whammy!


Ah, when did they unlock all cars to drive in Arcade mode? Must've missed that update. Last time I check the game that is supposedly all about just driving cars, not racing them, sure does force you do to a lot of racing to drive certain cars.



Are you basing that on some factual data, or is it just another cliche "I like it, so you're wrong"?
I'm basing it on my personal experience, I finished career mode and had almost $20,000,000 credits. GT6 has many flaws, I don't see the payouts being one of them. Lack of prize cars, sure. I've been playing GT since GT1 days, I don't see a problem with the way things are with the credits. The seasonal events aren't scams anyway. I'm not defending PD either, this game has many flaws. I just don't see how you can't get the cars you want without grinding. Sure the $20,000,000 cars require some grinding, so what, it's been like that forever.
 
I'm basing it on my personal experience, I finished career mode and had almost $20,000,000 credits. GT6 has many flaws, I don't see the payouts being one of them. Lack of prize cars, sure. I've been playing GT since GT1 days, I don't see a problem with the way things are with the credits. The seasonal events aren't scams anyway. I'm not defending PD either, this game has many flaws. I just don't see how you can't get the cars you want without grinding. Sure the $20,000,000 cars require some grinding, so what, it's been like that forever.
Congratulations, you ran through the entire career mode and now you can buy exactly 1 classic Ferrari/Ford etc. racecar.

"It's been like that forever" doesn't mean it's still good. If it did my cell phone would still weigh 3 pounds and be as big as a brick.
 
DeifieD, You need to stop and actually look at what you've said many times here: namely that credits are easy to come by and you don't need to grind to get most cars in the game.

I've played GT since GT2 came out. The only title I've missed since then was GT5P. I've played every title to completion. I'm no "noob", though I am new to the online community, so even now I'm learning new things about past games. In GT6, the basic idea that it's hard to earn top-level cars isn't new; every game has had as a deeper level challenge that all but aliens have been frustrated by at some point. But GT5 brought "grinding" to a whole new level, somewhat with the number of cars in the game, but mostly to raise your XP to where you could even qualify to do the next event. GT6 simplified that aspect to the point of stupidity with the stars. But by GT6, we (return players) have been trained to eyeball the highest paying events requiring the least amount of effort or time. What truly exists in that realm this time? I've seen a few extolling the virtues of the NASCAR event, there's the RB challenge, and then there's the 24 minutes at Nurburgring. I know the Ring's sister events seems like an appropriate answer, but when faced with a lower payout for the use of higher-equipped cars, the 'Ring IS the answer in that group (because the cheaper the car you use, the lower your maintenance costs are going to be). PD somewhat fixed this issue in GT5 with repeatable races in the Seasonal section, and later the performance points differential bonus, but there were several single events and championships roughly on par with each other in career mode to work with.

Let me admit this now, as a US southerner and lifelong NASCAR fan, I HATE NASCAR in GT. The ONLY appropriate venues for the car in this game are Daytona, Indy, and High Speed Ring. The cars as designed are pigs and the setups are ridiculous, nothing like how these cars are actually built. I drive NASCAR in GT when required, nothing more, ever. The Red Bull/X cars....I have to be "in the zone" to actually strap one of these goofballs on. My eyes have to feel "just so" and my knuckles have to be good and loose, and I can't have thought of murder or dismemberment for many hours to "feel like" driving one of those beasts. I use the DS3, so it all has to truly come together for me to want to actually do laps with any field of competitors, AI or not. And to truly make it worth my time, I would wish to grind the whole championship series to get that bonus million. Since golding that series, I haven't yet had the health or fortitude to return. And btw, I did my 24 HOUR endurance races (in GT5) in that car, so it's not that I CAN'T do it. So now, every time I turn on my PS3, I'm faced with several 30-minute races at the 'Ring or I'm just piddling with small stuff knowing there is much of the game I paid for still sitting there in bright wrappings that I can see.....but not touch. The career level is done, I've gotten gold in every seasonal that's been available to me, I have only S5 (the Veyron) and Red Bull at Goodwood to complete to check off the whole board, I've earned some 80mil credits, spent some 30mil on tuning, and have 300 cars. To date, the Zonda R and Toyota 88 are my most expensive rides. I've never had more than 6mil in my bank.

I don't know how many players out there are like me, but I suspect a fair number don't have steering rigs, didn't get in on the glitches, and will never pay 50 actual dollars US for the equivalent of about 8 JGTC cars. So your sentiments, as stated in the first paragraph, are rather fatuous, don't you think? I'll pause while you look that up.
 
DeifieD, You need to stop and actually look at what you've said many times here: namely that credits are easy to come by and you don't need to grind to get most cars in the game.

I've played GT since GT2 came out. The only title I've missed since then was GT5P. I've played every title to completion. I'm no "noob", though I am new to the online community, so even now I'm learning new things about past games. In GT6, the basic idea that it's hard to earn top-level cars isn't new; every game has had as a deeper level challenge that all but aliens have been frustrated by at some point. But GT5 brought "grinding" to a whole new level, somewhat with the number of cars in the game, but mostly to raise your XP to where you could even qualify to do the next event. GT6 simplified that aspect to the point of stupidity with the stars. But by GT6, we (return players) have been trained to eyeball the highest paying events requiring the least amount of effort or time. What truly exists in that realm this time? I've seen a few extolling the virtues of the NASCAR event, there's the RB challenge, and then there's the 24 minutes at Nurburgring. I know the Ring's sister events seems like an appropriate answer, but when faced with a lower payout for the use of higher-equipped cars, the 'Ring IS the answer in that group (because the cheaper the car you use, the lower your maintenance costs are going to be). PD somewhat fixed this issue in GT5 with repeatable races in the Seasonal section, and later the performance points differential bonus, but there were several single events and championships roughly on par with each other in career mode to work with.

Let me admit this now, as a US southerner and lifelong NASCAR fan, I HATE NASCAR in GT. The ONLY appropriate venues for the car in this game are Daytona, Indy, and High Speed Ring. The cars as designed are pigs and the setups are ridiculous, nothing like how these cars are actually built. I drive NASCAR in GT when required, nothing more, ever. The Red Bull/X cars....I have to be "in the zone" to actually strap one of these goofballs on. My eyes have to feel "just so" and my knuckles have to be good and loose, and I can't have thought of murder or dismemberment for many hours to "feel like" driving one of those beasts. I use the DS3, so it all has to truly come together for me to want to actually do laps with any field of competitors, AI or not. And to truly make it worth my time, I would wish to grind the whole championship series to get that bonus million. Since golding that series, I haven't yet had the health or fortitude to return. And btw, I did my 24 HOUR endurance races (in GT5) in that car, so it's not that I CAN'T do it. So now, every time I turn on my PS3, I'm faced with several 30-minute races at the 'Ring or I'm just piddling with small stuff knowing there is much of the game I paid for still sitting there in bright wrappings that I can see.....but not touch. The career level is done, I've gotten gold in every seasonal that's been available to me, I have only S5 (the Veyron) and Red Bull at Goodwood to complete to check off the whole board, I've earned some 80mil credits, spent some 30mil on tuning, and have 300 cars. To date, the Zonda R and Toyota 88 are my most expensive rides. I've never had more than 6mil in my bank.

I don't know how many players out there are like me, but I suspect a fair number don't have steering rigs, didn't get in on the glitches, and will never pay 50 actual dollars US for the equivalent of about 8 JGTC cars. So your sentiments, as stated in the first paragraph, are rather fatuous, don't you think? I'll pause while you look that up.

I have never done the glitch, I have never paid for GT $. I also don't have to look up the word fatuous, I also wasn't attacking you in any way, just voicing my opinion, so there's no need to be hostile and tell me you'll wait while I look up an English word. Steering rigs are cheap nowadays, maybe you should save up for a few months and buy one, it'll make the game much more enjoyable. Maybe that's why I don't mind the occasional grinding. This thread is getting really pointless now, so I'll let you whine and cry about how unfair the game economy is.
Congratulations, you ran through the entire career mode and now you can buy exactly 1 classic Ferrari/Ford etc. racecar.

"It's been like that forever" doesn't mean it's still good. If it did my cell phone would still weigh 3 pounds and be as big as a brick.
I already said that $20,000,000 cars require some grinding. Instead of buying that 1 car, I can buy many other cars as well. So your point about not being to buy fast cars is void. You can buy plenty of fast cars with $20,000,000. You can't compare an old cellular phone to an in game economy. Apples and oranges.
 
I already said that $20,000,000 cars require some grinding. Instead of buying that 1 car, I can buy many other cars as well. So your point about not being to buy fast cars is void. You can buy plenty of fast cars with $20,000,000. You can't compare an old cellular phone to an in game economy. Apples and oranges.
I was comparing PD's game design philosophy to cell phones and it's bang on thank you very much. Look at the overall design of GT1/2 and GT6 and there isn't much difference, and most would say that GT6 is actually going backwards from GT1/2 in many way with the short races, horrible AI, the **star** system etc. etc. In no way does GT6's career mode resemble a racing career at all, it's just a series of random races stuck together.
 
I was comparing PD's game design philosophy to cell phones and it's bang on thank you very much. Look at the overall design of GT1/2 and GT6 and there isn't much difference, and most would say that GT6 is actually going backwards from GT1/2 in many way with the short races, horrible AI, the **star** system etc. etc. In no way does GT6's career mode resemble a racing career at all, it's just a series of random races stuck together.
Sure, I agree GT6 has lots of issues, I didn't like the licenses in GT6, the star system, lack of endurance races. However, we were talking about payouts from races and the ease of getting credits, and how the seasonals aren't a scam.
 
Sure, I agree GT6 has lots of issues, I didn't like the licenses in GT6, the star system, lack of endurance races. However, we were talking about payouts from races and the ease of getting credits, and how the seasonals aren't a scam.
It's all part of the bigger picture of which Seasonal payouts are a small part...obviously you have trouble seeing the forest for the trees.
 
I have never done the glitch, I have never paid for GT $. I also don't have to look up the word fatuous, I also wasn't attacking you in any way, just voicing my opinion, so there's no need to be hostile and tell me you'll wait while I look up an English word. Steering rigs are cheap nowadays, maybe you should save up for a few months and buy one, it'll make the game much more enjoyable. Maybe that's why I don't mind the occasional grinding. This thread is getting really pointless now, so I'll let you whine and cry about how unfair the game economy is.

I already said that $20,000,000 cars require some grinding. Instead of buying that 1 car, I can buy many other cars as well. So your point about not being to buy fast cars is void. You can buy plenty of fast cars with $20,000,000. You can't compare an old cellular phone to an in game economy. Apples and oranges.
If you come back to this, in any way, shape or form, onto the you-know-what list you go. You have stated two diametrically opposed "opinions" many times in this thread, and choose to dismiss others pointing it out to you. Your own words: "I just don't see how you can't get the cars you want without grinding. Sure the $20,000,000 cars require some grinding". These people on this thread are airing their desire to drive every car they desire that is part of a game they paid for with the express interest to drive any and every car the game is programmed to simulate. This game is on a short clock as far as support from PD goes. I'm not grinding Nurburgring 4000 (whatever) times to get every car available in this game. I'm not waiting 4 years to attain every car I desire in this game. At current payout rates and opportunities, this makes this game a failure for MANY people. Do you understand that? And I enjoy what there is to enjoy in the game just fine with my DS3. It's how I've played the game since GT2. I have no desire to look like a child with a silly simulation rig taking up half my livingroom, bedroom, or wherever people hide those things. You're the one arguing about something quite valid and crossing yourself up in the meantime when you have to admit to the truth of what others are saying. Amazing how you and jezballah enjoy the game so much as is, yet are always on here fighting instead of playing the game.

EDIT: And to relate this to the OP: I don't think the seasonals are a "scam", they just mostly suck, IMO. I think the OP failed to take into account that most TT cars are winnable prior to the events in which they feature, and that there was no "need" to spend lavishly on them to achieve gold times. In all this, the OP has been pretty well proven incorrect. But the overall structure of GT6 versus expectations of what GT6 could deliver is highly flawed as far as a LOT of us players are concerned.
 
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Wow, complete waste of time in this thread. I can be on this forum when I'm at work, I can't play GT6 at work. I said my piece, you don't agree, whatever. Go and cry about how you can't get every car in the game at the start. I enjoy my time spent playing GT6, even though the game isn't perfect.
 
I need a macro that sees the argument "If you don't like it, don't use it" and auto-ignores the poster.
 
I need a macro that sees the argument "If you don't like it, don't use it" and auto-ignores the poster.
There'd only be a handful of us talking to each other:lol:
 
Ha! I'm not worry about the Seasonals credits anymore. The 20,000,000m credits glitch still works for me. :D
 
You need to factor in the lack of prize cars into the cost equation too. Pretty sure I used to win a car virtually every race series I won.

And GT5 gave us little money before seasonal but gave us gift tickets for various mini events like 1000 miles driven or x numberof cars owned etc.
 
Protip: Next time don't buy all high end parts just to get gold. Subtle is enough. (Suspension hard, stage 1 turbo, etc).Oh and DONT BUY NITROS. That is unless you want to be No.1 at the leaderboard. Also the reason there was a big payout in GT5 was because of the PSN hack, remember? You just too dependent on it. Go on and don't be such a slack.
 
I need a macro that sees the argument "If you don't like it, don't use it" and auto-ignores the poster.

Now that's an idea I can get behind, except exchange "ignore" with "ban".
 
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