GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[TheNormsk]

My lap at Deep Forest.

Weak ABS employed, 10-10 Feedback strength, TGT steering wheel using standard pedals.

That was smoking!

And here I was thinking my 1:25.9 I got last night was good.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

My lap at Deep Forest.

Weak ABS employed, 10-10 Feedback strength, TGT steering wheel using standard pedals.

If memory serves, didn’t you used to compete in the WRS time trials back in the day? I seem to remember an event at the Nurburgring Sprint track in a GT500 Calsonic Skyline (likely GT5) where you beat (or nearly beat) everyone… with a broken arm! It was at that point that I understood the difference between humans and aliens 👽 😂

Edit: found it, GT5 week 9, April 2011!

 

[Robster UK]

Had some great races this week on daily B. Started the week as DR A but slipped to B mid week and stayed there and had two wins and podiums. Started the week with a 1.39.6** and got that down to 1.38.880 by Friday. The most fun race had the start list shown, plenty of rough and tumble, not from me I add.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I have just got back, did a few laps but no races.

Do we know the cars for next week yet?

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

This was a miserable week at Daily Race B. I tried really hard to improve, but I kept getting slotted into DR A/A+ lobbies, and the times I got in a B lobby near the top, I usually crashed and burned.

The rest of the week was an experiment to see if I could enjoy the races even though my DR was plummeting, and the answer is a resounding NO. So I won't be retrying this experiment anytime soon. I'm hoping next week is more like normal.

This is for the past couple of weeks:

DR B 90% down to 58%.

Here's my overall results since I started tracking them, in case anyone cares:

It's interesting because it makes the last couple of months not seem so bad. I guess a litle perspective isn't a bad thing.

 

[TheNormsk]

This was a miserable week at Daily Race B. I tried really hard to improve, but I kept getting slotted into DR A/A+ lobbies, and the times I got in a B lobby near the top, I usually crashed and burned.

I wonder if this is because there were less drivers in B this week because of its reputation as a crash and burn fest. I certainly avoided it and instead had good lobbies for C. Now I didn't do anywhere near the number of races you did though. Only did 7 races on US account and 2 on GB account. Both were a net positive for the week. US up 9% (63% B) and GB up 5% (20% B).

The perspective thing is interesting.
US:

GB:

While last week felt like I really crashed hard after my climb up to 75% B at my peak to then fall back to 58%, looking at my history, since I got my Fanatec wheel and pedals my overall driving performance has increased and now I am running more competitive in lobbies that are 30-40% higher in DR than just a month or two ago.

I just strengthened my rig as well so my braking performance is better again (it does not flex horribly anymore) but I now have to deal with knee joint pain from the additional force I am putting through my left leg since I hardened the elastomer stack on my pedals

I may try one or two more races this evening before I call it for the week.

 

[GTRedman]

This was a miserable week at Daily Race B. I tried really hard to improve, but I kept getting slotted into DR A/A+ lobbies, and the times I got in a B lobby near the top, I usually crashed and burned.

I had some good results for race B when i was matched with my current level of C, when it was mostly B's I tanked so there is a pattern there , I'm close to B now so gotta improve that. My QT was 140.2 which put me top 5 in a C lobby, 8&11 in a mostly B lobby. I did manage to improve my QT to a 1:39.8 which I was really happy with but didn't race again.

I wonder if this is because there were less drivers in B this week

I only did 5 races on the weekend and my first was all C's then 2 mostly B's then 2 C's again so It's weird so probably true about the active players.

If it's like in GT Sport (and everything points to it) it's -5 SR points for a quit.

Out of curiosity what is the source of this info, I couldn't find anything about how SR points work.

 

[Metalgear9493]

If memory serves, didn’t you used to compete in the WRS time trials back in the day? I seem to remember an event at the Nurburgring Sprint track in a GT500 Calsonic Skyline (likely GT5) where you beat (or nearly beat) everyone… with a broken arm! It was at that point that I understood the difference between humans and aliens 👽 😂

Edit: found it, GT5 week 9, April 2011!

That would have been when I broke my collarbone in a horrific bicycle accident, of which I have no memory of because I also hit my head and sustained retrograde amnesia.

Most of the time that I found from my initial laps earlier in the week, was switching to weak ABS👍. Makes a huge difference in how the car behaves, even when not braking🤔

 

[mellofello9]

Question : on long fast straights, is it proper etiquette to push-bump a car ahead to "Team up" and reach a pack of opponents further ahead? I normally avoid any sort of contact, but I have seen supergt YouTuber do that and it seems a good strategy.

As others have said, yes, this is 'normal' activity. Within reason, though. Whether or not the other driver minds, the Sr algorithm is ALWAYS watching, so how hard you hit someone makes a difference. It really comes down to timing and what the other driver is 'signaling', too. If they duck out of the way, I leave them be and stay out of their draft for a bit. Also, while it may go without saying, causing damage is NEVER ok.

This is as much a teamwork thing as it is a racing strategy. Just because you can overtake your opponent now doesn't mean you want to. Sometimes tagging along for a lap or two (especially towards the front) to sort the best place to overtake and hold the position means you gotta pedal-it a bit -OR- you can simply help your opponent be as fast as you until it's advantageous for them to not be. 😁

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Out of curiosity what is the source of this info, I couldn't find anything about how SR points work

Back in GTS we could read it via Kudos prime in real time.

The rest of the week was an experiment to see if I could enjoy the races even though my DR was plummeting, and the answer is a resounding NO

I am not surprised. One of the key elements for me to enjoy the racing regardless of DR is to not monitor it.
I really have no idea apart from letter, I don't even look at the bar (is it a bar?)
When I raced GTS and we had Kudosprime I was for a period also very fixated on it. Then I learned not to check

 

[Nakano219]

In addition to brake balance, damping ratio is adjustable in the new Race B this week, so there's a little bit of setup involved:

 

[bone_tone]

In addition to brake balance, damping ratio is adjustable in the new Race B this week, so there's a little bit of setup involved:

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Until they realise they've made a mistake and fix it.......

 

[MetalApe]

Race C is Group 4 for 10 Laps on the full circuit at Autopolis, not the short track shown on the screen grab I posted.

In the Ferrari only minimal fuel saving was required, a little bit of short shifting was all it took to get the end on a no stopper.

 

[Famine]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Gran Turismo 7 Daily Races: Setting Sun​

A brand-new week means a brand-new set of Gran Turismo 7 Daily Races is now available, with three fresh events running over the next seven days...

 

[hardvibes]

In addition to brake balance, damping ratio is adjustable in the new Race B this week, so there's a little bit of setup involved:

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Great. So this week is even more difficult to keep a high DR.
You either know what you’re doing (tuning/finding a competitive setup here) or you get squashed by the elite.

This should have been done for any Race A.

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EDIT: I don't get the hate for my comment. Guess you guys are confident with your tuning abilities and don't worry about DR.

 

[Cherryturbo]

Great. So this week is even more difficult to keep a high DR.
You either know what you’re doing (tuning/finding a competitive setup here) or you get squashed by the elite.

This should have been done for Race A.

There is a lot I don’t agree with in this weeks races but at least these adjustment options add a little variety to the event, something that a lot of us have been calling for in the past.

Having said that:

Race A should return to what it was. The No DR/SR idea seems to have been a failed experiment.
Race B is far too short for Gr3 machines. IMHO, race B should have 15 minute racing.
Race C is too short. We ran road cars over this distance in the Toyota Cup. Constantly running fuel saving races is boring. Why have variables if selecting them results in an overall slower race time? Why do we never just get races in which ALL tyres are available over distances that make fuel saving not a guaranteed option?

But PD never listen and I/we continue to bang our heads against the unwavering wall of rigidity imposed by the near-sighted individual(s) that select our events.

 

[brockie]

I’ll have some gr3 Suzuka this week!

 

[LumpiestFish]

Race C was expected to be on the Autopolis Short Course a few pages ago. Wish it was to be honest, Autopolis Short is really underrated in my opinion. Would really like to see them use some shorter circuits for Race C too, short circuits but high lap counts. Would be interesting to do a long Goodwood race.

 

[GTRedman]

Question : on long fast straights, is it proper etiquette to push-bump a car ahead to "Team up" and reach a pack of opponents further ahead? I normally avoid any sort of contact, but I have seen supergt YouTuber do that and it seems a good strategy.

As others have said, yes, this is 'normal' activity. Within reason, though. Whether or not the other driver minds, the Sr algorithm is ALWAYS watching, so how hard you hit someone makes a difference. It really comes down to timing and what the other driver is 'signaling', too. If they duck out of the way, I leave them be and stay out of their draft for a bit. Also, while it may go without saying, causing damage is NEVER ok.

This is as much a teamwork thing as it is a racing strategy. Just because you can overtake your opponent now doesn't mean you want to. Sometimes tagging along for a lap or two (especially towards the front) to sort the best place to overtake and hold the position means you gotta pedal-it a bit -OR- you can simply help your opponent be as fast as you until it's advantageous for them to not be. 😁

I personally would treat the move as a hostile act, I didn't even know it was a thing people do. Most people I race against are quite aggressive, pushing me out of the way when they're not dive bombing me

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

In addition to brake balance, damping ratio is adjustable in the new Race B this week, so there's a little bit of setup involved:

Ugh. How do we know what to adjust, how much to adjust it, and which direction? And if the answer is "try changing something and see if it helps", that isn't helpful for those of us who don't drive consistently enough to notice the difference.

NOTE to @Nakano219: My comment here isn't directed at you specifically - it's directed at the topic you brought up. Of course, if you have any answers, that would be awesome, but anyone else should feel free to enlighten those of us still in the dark.

 

[PMK]

Happy to see some Autopolis!

 

[nickf1gr]

I don't even try this track (Autopolis).....

 

[NAXEHT]

Great. So this week is even more difficult to keep a high DR.
You either know what you’re doing (tuning/finding a competitive setup here) or you get squashed by the elite.

This should have been done for any Race A.

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EDIT: I don't get the hate for my comment. Guess you guys are confident with your tuning abilities and don't worry about DR.

Indeed, tuning settings activated on B or C is a big pass.

 

[Kriptical]

Err..

Does anyone have any advice for the 911?

Usually race b is usually so short it feels like a set up/DR farming excercise..however, I’m curious as to how the tuning will affect things, and also don’t know my arse from my elbow, when it comes to that sort of thing.

-thanks

 

[Cherryturbo]

And if the answer is "try changing something and see if it helps", that isn't helpful for those of us who don't drive consistently enough to notice the difference.

If you don’t notice the difference, why change anything? Just because you can doesn‘t mean you need to.

Indeed, tuning settings activated on B or C is a big pass.

Why? BB is a tuning setting.

 

[Tuono_GT]

BORING, ABSOLUTELY BORING......

Same old, same old... every race on hards... same old tracks... same number of laps on B and C... just same old crap!

Sorry, that's it. Rant over.

 

[Tidgney]

I quite like this weeks races to be honest! They do need to use some of the other tracks though I agree! Race A is far more fun than I was expecting!

 

[Tuono_GT]

I quite like this weeks races to be honest! They do need to use some of the other tracks though I agree! Race A is far more fun than I was expecting!

Thanks Tidg. I do like your weekly Race Guides so will watch and then maybe get a bit more enthused

 

[GTRedman]

I don't even try this track (Autopolis).....

Yasou ti kanis This is actually a good track, you should give it a chance. I learnt this track when they had the Super Forumla time trial it was a lot of fun, I could never get gold though.

 

[Talon16]

What a boring week for B & C. We had Suzuka in Gr3 a couple months ago (albeit race A) and Gr4 fuel savers are the worst of the combos IMO.

Race A is kinda fun, but won't keep me entertained for a whole week all its own. Did some horrid quali laps and one race. Started P2 and ended up getting a W in front of two other A+ drivers so that definitely made it more entertaining.

But, that may be all she wrote for me this week. We shall see. I really want them to announce the next set of Manu/Nation races but not holding my breath for that.