GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

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Well since the ante got upped at Nord and I was almost back in bronze I decided to go in and try and solidify the silver. I was able to take a couple seconds off so I think that'll do for me.

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Did what I though was a pretty good lap at Laguna, perfect no, but as good as other laps that yield me 2 to 2.5pc off the top time.

I am in the 27s....I just dont get it.
S2 is the time killer, mainly the corkscrew entry/exit. Check there first.
 
Adam, in no uncertain terms: what the ****. A FULL SECOND faster? Took what was my unimpressive, but safe, gold time, to a 2.99%.
I'm only happy he did it under his real flag, as my country neighbor...

Speaking about your gold, you are fast as hell, I'm sure you will find way to lower that risky standing 👍

As for me, it will be bronze this time, overtake is just not working when racing from cocpit view without HUD.
 
First try in the IONIQ 6 N last night. Took me a couple of hours to get a time on the board. Felt like a solid ish lap but clearly a few seconds left to pick up here, gonna have to give it a second spin.

Man, it sure likes to lose control and go for slides. Bit more of an apprehensive and calm approach seems to work better here. Doesn’t really feel like it has 641 bhp, pretty slow car. Struggles to breach 250 km/h on Döttinger...

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Adam, in no uncertain terms: what the ****. A FULL SECOND faster? Took what was my unimpressive, but safe, gold time, to a 2.99%.

I literally do not understand where I'm losing all this time, or where you find any of the grip: because this car has absolutely none. It's impossible to get a fast, clean lap. I was over a full second and a half slower than my best time because I absolutely cannot find any additional time...or the car crashes (when I also hadn't found more time).

Also: **** you Polyphony for not doing a single thing about the ghost problem we already have, except make it worse. It basically makes this TT impossible for me, as I really need that ghost to follow, and I need it to reset at every sector.

This is ********. Honestly.
Considered turning off the reset at every sector setting and going for a slower ghost instead? Perhaps not ideal if you’re used to the resetting but still... better, no?
 
Considered turning off the reset at every sector setting and going for a slower ghost instead? Perhaps not ideal if you’re used to the resetting but still... better, no?
This is what I've already done, and even then I still start to lose the ghost since it doesn't reset. Typically, following a faster ghost that resets every sectors allows me, myself, to become faster because I can see braking points and lines taken and what not.

But if the ghost is too fast now, it'll just be off, far ahead of me and thus of no use. And the ghost I've picked to follow probably isn't quite fast enough, so I'm not really seeing any improvement.

Or, if I do, the car goes and suddenly behaves erratically and crashes. I actually went and turned ASM back on because I was sick of some of the nonsense, and it still went so uncontrollable at one point that even that couldn't save it. The one lap I did complete with ASM on was damn near the same exact time as the one I managed to complete earlier yesterday with it off. That sector somewhat after the carousel is where I have to be losing seconds of time, because the car goes absolutely violent and I have to do everything in my power to keep it on the circuit.

They really need to cap TT lap times to around 3 minutes, because things like this most people just...don't have time for. I have to just make sure I'm gold on this one and make sure the Laguna Seca one is at a time I'm happy with and do all the Weekly Challenges before I leave for vacation on Saturday, since I won't be back for ~10 days, so that makes this all the more obnoxious that what should of been a safe gold I could just leave at Nurburgring suddenly, right near the end, is not at all, and now cuts into my LS TT time.
 
They really need to cap TT lap times to around 3 minutes, because things like this most people just...don't have time for. I have to just make sure I'm gold on this one and make sure the Laguna Seca one is at a time I'm happy with and do all the Weekly Challenges before I leave for vacation on Saturday, since I won't be back for ~10 days, so that makes this all the more obnoxious that what should of been a safe gold I could just leave at Nurburgring suddenly, right near the end, is not at all, and now cuts into my LS TT time.
I'd sort of agree. I absolutely love The Ring, but it's just too much for a weekly TT event like this. The aliens are able to post some crazy times that us plebes (referring to myself, not you lol) really can't hope to approach. I think it's weird that some events have a relaxed 20% for bronze but not this one. Personally, I think for Nord TTs they should actually relax every tier - make it 5% gold, 8% Silver and 20% bronze. That way at least you have a decent chance of getting paid for the effort.
 
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I had silver now its bronze i hate that.....

Also why people can be 30!!!! Seconds faster is a mystery to me.....

Well whatever.
 
Two different sensation between both TT this week.

Honda VGT + Laguna Seca - I used this car a month ago before the update and I could notice the handling it`s better now. Before, this car had a loose rear, now it`s more stable, but still fun. I`m very proud with my current time. I think this is the 1st time I reach about 1,5% from top in a regular circuit that not oval, and I got a better time than Tidgney also using VR! Sad that my optmimun was 1:24:6, as my fisrt sector was much worse than previous I had been doing. T2 and T4 are the most dificult to be consistent, because if throttle just a bit late, the car understeer. Definitely the road cars are so much better in new tire model.

IONIQ 6N + Nurburgring - Definitely a painfull challenge, because the fact that the car isn`t fun is strange for me. IRL is a car with several electronic/artificial features, so replicate to a game maybe isn`t so easy. The problem of this car is the high liftoff oversteer, making a lot of invalidated laps because off track. Also, after full throttle even in 4th gear, the car lose a lot of traction. The wrost part is that I did this TT last week with a 9:46 and 2,5% from top, so I instantly quit this TT. For my surprise, this time was evaporated some days after, and now reached a 9:43, but for my suprise still close to the 3% limit. WTH there are still some guys enjoying and brbeaking records. I realized that top players are totally uknown from what we are used to find. Strange TT...

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The problem is the car, which is terrible especially for the 24h configuration choice. If it had been the normal Nordschleife, it would have been somewhat acceptable, but for these '****boxes' with fake sound, they need to choose normal or short tracks.

I don't get the point of driving this thing on the Nordschleife. In fact, many people didn't post crazy lap times because they probably only did a single lap (just like I did, and then moved on). It felt weird to me that the time stayed what it was at the beginning, since sometimes I was gaining on the ghost (not because of the bug, but right during the sector since the laps weren't 'perfect').

All the Nordschleife specialists are missing (Fraga and the various Japanese drivers), and I hope they stay away, also because my time is safe down to 9:22 and then I'm risking it, but I have absolutely no desire to go back to driving that thing.
 
HE FOUND ANOTHER TENTH. That punted me to silver.

Thankfully, somehow - perhaps picking a faster ghost to follow - I managed a lap three seconds faster than all I could muster yesterday, meaning a ~second and a half faster than my previous best, which was no longer gold, down to a 9:42.572.

Someone needs to go take his PlayStation away. Now.

Clearly, all credit goes to my co-driver, who was asleep.

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This is what I've already done, and even then I still start to lose the ghost since it doesn't reset. Typically, following a faster ghost that resets every sectors allows me, myself, to become faster because I can see braking points and lines taken and what not.

But if the ghost is too fast now, it'll just be off, far ahead of me and thus of no use. And the ghost I've picked to follow probably isn't quite fast enough, so I'm not really seeing any improvement.

Or, if I do, the car goes and suddenly behaves erratically and crashes. I actually went and turned ASM back on because I was sick of some of the nonsense, and it still went so uncontrollable at one point that even that couldn't save it. The one lap I did complete with ASM on was damn near the same exact time as the one I managed to complete earlier yesterday with it off. That sector somewhat after the carousel is where I have to be losing seconds of time, because the car goes absolutely violent and I have to do everything in my power to keep it on the circuit.

They really need to cap TT lap times to around 3 minutes, because things like this most people just...don't have time for. I have to just make sure I'm gold on this one and make sure the Laguna Seca one is at a time I'm happy with and do all the Weekly Challenges before I leave for vacation on Saturday, since I won't be back for ~10 days, so that makes this all the more obnoxious that what should of been a safe gold I could just leave at Nurburgring suddenly, right near the end, is not at all, and now cuts into my LS TT time.
I feel really stupid and somewhat condescending but because of this post coupled with the fact that you are super fast: are you using the overtake button?

I wanted to ask yesterday already (because you are usually super fast). But now you say that the ghost problems you experience is the ghost driving away. Everybody else has the issue that the ghost is "too slow", i.e. spawns behind oneself eventually that you can't see it unless you are too slow and it overtakes you.
 
I feel really stupid and somewhat condescending but because of this post coupled with the fact that you are super fast: are you using the overtake button?

I wanted to ask yesterday already (because you are usually super fast). But now you say that the ghost problems you experience is the ghost driving away. Everybody else has the issue that the ghost is "too slow", i.e. spawns behind oneself eventually that you can't see it unless you are too slow and it overtakes you.
Yup - I've got a folded bit of the top of Nespresso sleeve shoved into the back of the R3 button to keep it depressed :lol:

Yeah, the ghost issue is that I can't have it reset every sector, so I have to pick one that I know won't get too far ahead...but if I picked one that's not fast enough, I'll end up not going fast enough.

Seems like picking one a couple seconds faster than the previous one, and probably changing ABS to Default, seems to have done the trick here tonight. Especially strange because I really wasn't in the headspace for it...but maybe that's what I needed. No idea. As long as it holds out for Gold, it's fine. Not in my usual placing, but again, constrained time, the ghost issue, and the car's behavior, plus it being wayyyy too long of a lap...all around mehhhh.
 
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OK, IONIQ done! Honestly, after driving it again and taking it pretty cool it really wasn’t that bad as I initially thought. Be easy and calm on braking was the key, I think. Stay in the higher gear perhaps a little longer than you think while braking..

Having to press the overtake button obviously sucks (especially for a 9:30 lap) but yeah. Every time we’ve had a car with a button like this, DRS etc. they’ve always been activated so we’ll just have to deal with it even if I would prefer it to be inactive for a TT as it serves no purpose being alone on the track.

Usually I handle the accelerator with my index finger but when we’ve got this parameter to take care of as well I move my hand upwards and accelerate with the middle finger and the index goes to the overtake button at R1 instead. Not ideal but it works.

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[...] They really need to cap TT lap times to around 3 minutes, because things like this most people just...don't have time for. I have to just make sure I'm gold on this one and make sure the Laguna Seca one is at a time I'm happy with and do all the Weekly Challenges before I leave for vacation on Saturday, since I won't be back for ~10 days, so that makes this all the more obnoxious that what should of been a safe gold I could just leave at Nurburgring suddenly, right near the end, is not at all, and now cuts into my LS TT time.
I'd sort of agree. I absolutely love The Ring, but it's just too much for a weekly TT event like this. The aliens are able to post some crazy times that us plebes (referring to myself, not you lol) really can't hope to approach. I think it's weird that some events have a relaxed 20% for bronze but not this one. Personally, I think for Nord TTs they should actually relax every tier - make it 5% gold, 8% Silver and 20% bronze. That way at least you have a decent chance of getting paid for the effort.
Yeah, no. I gotta disagree.

I will admit that when I was about 30-60 min deep into this TT I had that feeling, “I seriously can’t be arsed with a 9 min+ TT”, the insanely deep sigh as you botch a corner five min in and so on. With that said, no. Ignore a track? That means more repeats and frequent revisits where we’ve already been.

You don’t have to do all of them, if you don’t have the time.

Arbitrarily changing the gold percentage is a hard pass. I think things like this should stay firm and unchanged for continuity’s sake. The one time they changed it it went from 3 to 1,5% for the Olympic one. I can kind of understand why for a special one one might do something special with the percentages even if I’m against the idea but certainly not for one of the normal TT’s. Not to take a crap on someone’s ability but 5% is pretty lenient, especially if the car is slow. 5% in this one would be 9'54.936, that is 28,3 seconds behind the WR. I don’t really see how being pretty much half a minute behind the WR should warrant a gold medal.
 
Nobody tell him where it was developed, where Hyundai has a development hub, or what one of the three meanings behind the "N" branding is...
Thanks, I know that's exactly why it’s also on the side of the Hyundai WRC car. But just because Hyundai builds a van, it doesn't mean we have to drive it on the Nordschleife. I get the meme, but if you're going to just accept everything, don't complain about what the automotive industry has become over the last 10 years.

They "developed" that other electric thing on the Nordschleife too (or so they say; in reality, aside from doing fast laps, I'd like to see how they actually developed it) and they even put up an ad on the bridge after Aremberg. But they didn't make a Time Trial out of it. In fact, luckily they chose Monza, where you had to start braking almost from the finish line on the previous lap just to stop the car at the first chicane...

In GT7, I want to drive cars, not rolling billboards. I don’t remember any other Time Trials at the Nordschleife using Ring Taxis. If anything, the only evocative Nordschleife TT was the one with the '73 Porsche, which was a nice nod to the Ruf Yellowbird lap. Plus, we already had the Honda and Hyundai TCR ones.
They could have just set the lap on the Nürburgring GP circuit, like they did with the other Hyundai road car and nobody would have complained. Honestly, that one might have actually been fun for a lap around the Nordschleife.

So, if they don't laserscan the track in Korea, does that mean every upcoming Hyundai TT is going to be at the Nürburgring? Or will every Honda car be forced onto Suzuka and every Toyota onto Fuji?
 
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Thanks, I know that's exactly why it’s also on the side of the Hyundai WRC car. But just because Hyundai builds a van, it doesn't mean we have to drive it on the Nordschleife. I get the meme, but if you're going to just accept everything, don't complain about what the automotive industry has become over the last 10 years.

They "developed" that other electric thing on the Nordschleife too (or so they say; in reality, aside from doing fast laps, I'd like to see how they actually developed it) and they even put up an ad on the bridge after Aremberg. But they didn't make a Time Trial out of it. In fact, luckily they chose Monza, where you had to start braking almost from the finish line on the previous lap just to stop the car at the first chicane...

In GT7, I want to drive cars, not rolling billboards. I don’t remember any other Time Trials at the Nordschleife using Ring Taxis. If anything, the only evocative Nordschleife TT was the one with the '73 Porsche, which was a nice nod to the Ruf Yellowbird lap. Plus, we already had the Honda and Hyundai TCR ones.
They could have just set the lap on the Nürburgring GP circuit, like they did with the other Hyundai road car and nobody would have complained. Honestly, that one might have actually been fun for a lap around the Nordschleife.

So, if they don't laserscan the track in Korea, does that mean every upcoming Hyundai TT is going to be at the Nürburgring? Or will every Honda car be forced onto Suzuka and every Toyota onto Fuji?
Weird, weird reply.

Hyundai actually developed the Ioniq 6N's handling at the Nurburgring. Here's the first test mule doing it back in 2024:


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Thus it's an apposite place for it to be involved in a time trial: now you can drive the finished product where it was developed, and subsequently beat the Lexus LFA and Porsche Carrera GT when subjected to a hot lap in production form.

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It's unclear what vans and WRC cars have to do with it. Or anything.
 
OK, IONIQ done! Honestly, after driving it again and taking it pretty cool it really wasn’t that bad as I initially thought. Be easy and calm on braking was the key, I think. Stay in the higher gear perhaps a little longer than you think while braking..

Having to press the overtake button obviously sucks (especially for a 9:30 lap) but yeah. Every time we’ve had a car with a button like this, DRS etc. they’ve always been activated so we’ll just have to deal with it even if I would prefer it to be inactive for a TT as it serves no purpose being alone on the track.

Usually I handle the accelerator with my index finger but when we’ve got this parameter to take care of as well I move my hand upwards and accelerate with the middle finger and the index goes to the overtake button at R1 instead. Not ideal but it works.

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Yeah, no. I gotta disagree.

I will admit that when I was about 30-60 min deep into this TT I had that feeling, “I seriously can’t be arsed with a 9 min+ TT”, the insanely deep sigh as you botch a corner five min in and so on. With that said, no. Ignore a track? That means more repeats and frequent revisits where we’ve already been.

You don’t have to do all of them, if you don’t have the time.

Arbitrarily changing the gold percentage is a hard pass. I think things like this should stay firm and unchanged for continuity’s sake. The one time they changed it it went from 3 to 1,5% for the Olympic one. I can kind of understand why for a special one one might do something special with the percentages even if I’m against the idea but certainly not for one of the normal TT’s. Not to take a crap on someone’s ability but 5% is pretty lenient, especially if the car is slow. 5% in this one would be 9'54.936, that is 28,3 seconds behind the WR. I don’t really see how being pretty much half a minute behind the WR should warrant a gold medal.

Well, I mean the medals don't really mean anything other than the game credit rewards. Ultimately, it's the record board position that matters. They arbitrarily change the bronze percentage once in a while. My time on the Ring TT is like 4.70%...not far off bronze, and that had me sitting at about 8000 on the big board which is normally gold-worthy placing in these. But, it's all a moot point anyway because no changes will be made lol.

24 seconds off the WR sounds like a really lenient amount, sure. However, when I did my first lap in the TT it was I think 10:10.xxx or so and I looked at the cutoffs and saw I needed (at that time) about a 9:50 for gold and I thought "no problemo!" However, after doing a bunch of laps (many of which were blown in the last quarter lol) I only got down to 9:53 and the gold line has dropped significantly. The Ring is a special track...it's pretty unusual for the top time to be a full second ahead.
 
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I'm with James May, worse thing you can do for anything other than an out and out sports car is "develop it on the Nurburgring", cue rock hard suspension and a crappy ride.
 
Thanks, I know that's exactly why it’s also on the side of the Hyundai WRC car. But just because Hyundai builds a van, it doesn't mean we have to drive it on the Nordschleife. I get the meme, but if you're going to just accept everything, don't complain about what the automotive industry has become over the last 10 years.

They "developed" that other electric thing on the Nordschleife too (or so they say; in reality, aside from doing fast laps, I'd like to see how they actually developed it) and they even put up an ad on the bridge after Aremberg. But they didn't make a Time Trial out of it. In fact, luckily they chose Monza, where you had to start braking almost from the finish line on the previous lap just to stop the car at the first chicane...

In GT7, I want to drive cars, not rolling billboards. I don’t remember any other Time Trials at the Nordschleife using Ring Taxis. If anything, the only evocative Nordschleife TT was the one with the '73 Porsche, which was a nice nod to the Ruf Yellowbird lap. Plus, we already had the Honda and Hyundai TCR ones.
They could have just set the lap on the Nürburgring GP circuit, like they did with the other Hyundai road car and nobody would have complained. Honestly, that one might have actually been fun for a lap around the Nordschleife.

So, if they don't laserscan the track in Korea, does that mean every upcoming Hyundai TT is going to be at the Nürburgring? Or will every Honda car be forced onto Suzuka and every Toyota onto Fuji?
The ’73 Porsche was pretty great and so was the 911 Club Sport ’95 but let’s not forget the early masterpiece, the NSX ’02 at Nordschleife (tuning allowed). Man, that thing handled like a dream. I still rank it as one of the top most fun TT’s of all time so far.


Well, I mean the medals don't really mean anything other than the game credit rewards. Ultimately, it's the record board position that matters. They arbitrarily change the bronze percentage once in a while. My time on the Ring TT is like 4.70%...not far off bronze, and that had me sitting at about 8000 on the big board which is normally gold-worthy placing in these. But, it's all a moot point anyway because no changes will be made lol.

24 seconds off the WR sounds like a really lenient amount, sure. However, when I did my first lap in the TT it was I think 10:10.xxx or so and I looked at the cutoffs and saw I needed (at that time) about a 9:50 for gold and I thought "no problemo!" However, after doing a bunch of laps (many of which were blown in the last quarter lol) I only got down to 9:53 and the gold line has dropped significantly. The Ring is a special track...it's pretty unusual for the top time to be a full second ahead.
Mh. Different things have different value to people, I guess. At this point the credits don’t really mean anything to me, sure they helped earlier on (should be a grand total of 452 mil I think if I’ve counted correctly, two at 4M) and I’ll always make sure I can receive the two mil but every now and then I go and purchase some expensive rides just to make sure to avoid the credit roof.

Keeping the gold medal streak going and try to manage and perhaps lower the DG delta as well as nailing some good positions or top 100’s is certainly more valuable than the credits. :) A streak starts to mean less and less and becomes a mess and difficult to keep track of if you start to mess around with its continuity because of rules changing.

28, not 24. Yes Nordschleife is long but think about it again. Even count in your head. That is a very long way behind. Yes, my first lap was also miles behind but I mean, it’s the first lap, who cares? We’re doing time trials here, the first lap is irrelevant.

It’s dropped significantly yeah but it wasn’t unexepected. Bit of a glance at the leaderboards would tell you some notable names missing and gaps a little too big. Voidzy was pretty much alone in really pushing it hard with his low 28. On a track like this with a bit more of a perfected lap a few seconds could definitely be cut off there which Tápai of course came and delivered on.
 
I'm with James May, worse thing you can do for anything other than an out and out sports car is "develop it on the Nurburgring", cue rock hard suspension and a crappy ride.
Really only if you do a bad job of that, sure. Honestly, so many cars are developed at Nurburgring, it doesn't make the car as special as Hyundai thinks it does.

The SS/TC's FE5 suspension I have in my Cobalt was developed at Nurburgring - and the car always has ridden great despite having practically no body roll. It was actually the fastest FWD production car in the world at that time, as well, allllll those years ago.
 
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They arbitrarily change the bronze percentage once in a while.
I know what you mean but it's not arbitrary. The bronze threshold changes from 10% to 20% for World Series events.
 
The ’73 Porsche was pretty great and so was the 911 Club Sport ’95 but let’s not forget the early masterpiece, the NSX ’02 at Nordschleife (tuning allowed). Man, that thing handled like a dream. I still rank it as one of the top most fun TT’s of all time so far.
I agree, for me, the '95 Porsche one was the best. But even the Elantra TCR, despite being front-wheel drive, was pretty nice (definitely better than the Gr.3 cars or the Red Bull).
The NSX was amazing to drive on the Nord, but since it had an open setup, I wouldn't rank it among the best. Time Trials should all be done with fixed, identical cars and setups.

On top of that, we only get two Nordschleife TTs a year (one during the 24H weekend and one toward the end of the year), excluding occasional special events. It’s a shame they don't pick fun cars, because if a car drives like crap on a regular track, you can look past it but on the Nordschleife, it just becomes a painful chore.

Weird, weird reply.

Hyundai actually developed the Ioniq 6N's handling at the Nurburgring. Here's the first test mule doing it back in 2024:

Thus it's an apposite place for it to be involved in a time trial: now you can drive the finished product where it was developed, and subsequently beat the Lexus LFA and Porsche Carrera GT when subjected to a hot lap in production form.
If you want to believe they built that car on the Nordschleife, you're free to do so, but it’s all pure marketing. Unfortunately, since its bankruptcy, the Nurburgring takes sponsorships from absolutely anything. Back in the day, doing a lap on the Nordschleife was a real challenge mostly for the driver, since it's the one track where the car matters less.
But nowadays, it’s just marketing, kind of like Bellof’s record being "demolished" by that ultramodified Porsche.

Today, every single brand goes to the Nordschleife just to set a lap time with race tires and stripped-out cars, all so they can write articles hyping up record X and Y.
Plus, I genuinely don’t see the point of developing an electric car (which is supposed to be a non-polluting city car) just to race it on the Nordschleife with a weight of 2,200 kg, fake engine noise pumped through speakers, and a fake gearbox simulating a real one. Maybe I’m just getting old, but this stuff makes absolutely zero sense.
It's unclear what vans and WRC cars have to do with it. Or anything.
By "vans," I mean that that 2,300 kg thing is basically comparable to a Fiat Ducato (honestly, a Ducato might even weigh less).
As for the WRC, if I remember correctly, Hyundai has the "N" with Nurburgring on one side, and another "N" with the name of their headquarters/track in Korea. But I highly doubt they actually developed the rally car at the Nurburgring (again, it’s just marketing).
 
Ok so im bit late to the Honda party at laguna, but it seems to me that I like Laguna seca but Laguna does not like me as I cant quite crack this one, have to watch more Tidgney replays to nail it!!

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If you want to believe they built that car on the Nordschleife, you're free to do so, but it’s all pure marketing.
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If you want to disbelieve that, it's a choice but it's not one arrived at through evidence and knowledge.
Maybe I’m just getting old, but this stuff makes absolutely zero sense.
If your profile age is correct, you are seven years younger than me. You're only as "old" as you think you are, and age is no excuse for ignoring information to suit an entrenched mindset.
Plus, I genuinely don’t see the point of developing an electric car (which is supposed to be a non-polluting city car) just to race it on the Nordschleife with a weight of 2,200 kg, fake engine noise pumped through speakers, and a fake gearbox simulating a real one.
Then, fortunately, that's not what happened. Hyundai developed the regular Ioniq 6 to be a regular electric car to do regular electric car things; HMG is actually pretty good at battery and motor tech generally, and I've found their mi/kWh efficiency to be better than any peer.

The Ioniq 6 launched in 2022 and has done regular electric car things; I've not driven it yet, but I understand that it's more efficient still, probably in no small part down to that streamliner design that makes it look like it fell from an appreciable height onto a speed pillow.

Meanwhile the 6N has been in development alongside it, breaking cover in test mule form in 2024, as a halo performance machine to top the range. As well as appearances at the Nurburgring, it also made a public rolling debut at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in 2025. I think that it's not yet available in Europe.

Hyundai didn't develop the Ioniq 6 "just to race it on the Nordschleife", but to be an EV saloon car. Neither did it develop the 6N, its performance halo model, "just to race it on the Nordschleife" - most owners won't - but its performance and dynamics was developed there.


Apropos of little, its predecessor, the 5N, has the same "fake engine noise pumped through speakers, and a fake gearbox simulating a real one". There was a lot of fuss when it landed in GT7 last January without that mode, meanwhile Lamborghini was caught buying one to benchmark it.

As for the WRC, if I remember correctly, Hyundai has the "N" with Nurburgring on one side, and another "N" with the name of their headquarters/track in Korea. But I highly doubt they actually developed the rally car at the Nurburgring (again, it’s just marketing).
The WRC car livery is literally just the "Hyundai N" livery which you'll see on that, the Elantra N TCR, the Ioniq 5N's Pikes Peak cars, and probably others:

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It doesn't mean that this specific car was developed at the Nurburgring (although the Nurburgring does host an annual rally, called the Eifel Rally, which runs some of the Nordschleife backwards). The livery is just that of the "N" brand under which Hyundai conducts motorsport activities.

It's also not particularly relevant that it's on different sides of the car "N" has three declared meanings: Nurburgring (nearby which Hyundai has a performance development satellite office called the Europe Technical Centre, opened in 2013, linked to the larger facility in Russelsheim), Namyang (its R&D headquarters in Korea), and it's also a stylised chicane.

Nonetheless, this specific car was developed - in part - through laps at the Nurburgring, like very many Hyundai models in the last decade, so this all answers your original post (again):

I don't get the point of driving this thing on the Nordschleife.
It was developed there, Hyundai has a major test facility there for vehicle dynamics and performance development, and the whole sub-brand is in part named for there.

That is the point of driving this thing there.

Hopefully this all helps you "get" that. Whether you do or don't though, we're going back to the actual time trial topic now.

Edit: Pretty sure that last sentence was in indigo (plus or minus the Dark Mode adjustment), not invisible.
 
Managed a grand total of 2 valid and complete laps over 250km...

This trial has highlighted that I am not that competitive without a ghost 1 tenth in front of me being reset every sector.
My first attempt I tried to keep up with the number 1 time, but that didn't go very well so I switched to a slower ghost about 7 seconds off the pace and I still couldn't really keep up with that either.

Can't wait to see the participation numbers for this one, being 10 seconds off the pace and still top 100, this will surely be under 150,000 entries.

Having to hold the boost button for 9 and a half minutes straight was not at all painful and annoying.
And I can only imagine that this car is not performing similarly to its real life counterpart, barely able to breach 250kmh even downhill, and it really shows its weight under braking and direction change.

Normally I love a good Nurburgring trial, not this time.

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And now we have a VGT at Laguna Seca ... sigh

I am in a bad mood today and it is certainly coming through in this post :lol:
 
And I can only imagine that this car is not performing similarly to its real life counterpart, barely able to breach 250kmh even downhill
Quoted top speed is 257km/h, which I can only guess is limited by design for heating/derating purposes. Could be the max the drive will spin to I suppose, but I don't think PD got the acceleration right even accounting for N-GRIN Shift. I drove the 5N a couple of years back and it was quite a lot quicker - and I didn't use the boost from rest because that's silly.
 
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