GTA Online Thread (Useful Links in OP)

Discussion in 'Grand Theft Auto' started by dhandeh, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. rallymorten

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    Are we going to turn this thread into a philosophical debate on whether or not Underground 2's URL races and the entirety of Juiced are technically "illegal"? Because I am totally up for that! :lol:
     
  2. rallymorten

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    TIL Store Hold-ups is a thing R* can tunable-bonuses for.

    also yay gAAAmbling. What a worthy use of 100-hour work weeks and general unethical treatment of workers because unions are a bad thing.

     
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    Knew something had to happen today given that the qabeta was being updated earlier this week and all of the rumors going on over at the gtaforums on the next dlc speculation thread. Good thing I’m trying to grind to $20 million at the moment.

    In other words, it’s finally about time we’re getting a new DLC, and even better, the long awaited Casino dlc. :bowdown:
     
  4. Eunos_Cosmo

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    How is this going to work while taking into consideration shark cards & real money? Are they going to completely silo the casinos from the greater GTA economy? Meaning you can't buy any prior content with gambling winnings, gambling gameplay is via a completely separate currency, gambling winnings are only valid towards specific products that are also not purchasable with shark card money, etc. It would have to be a pretty hefty quarantine.

    More realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if you are given the opportunity to run the casino, but actually not given the ability to gamble.
     
  5. rallymorten

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    I consider this the most likely outcome as well. Online gambling is (for completely legitimate reasons) a minefield waiting to explode. Then again, not only is the Arena Wheel a thing, but where applicable you can play online Poker in RDR2, and being morally in the clear has never really been a strong suit of R* - for better *and* for worse.
     
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    Is there any way to get a clean interior on cars we buy from the dealers in game? I was trying to get a clean copy of a few of the older cars without all the clutter (coffee & soft drink cups, ashtray, phone holder, AC vent covers, etc.). I admit I'm picky about it, I'll just sell & re-buy until I have a clean one, but I had no luck after several tries. As far as I know it's random, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a way to do it.
     
  7. Eunos_Cosmo

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    So you're potentially using real money (the $GTA could have been purchased) to spin the wheel. But the wheel doesn't have losing outcomes from what I can tell, so it's not really gambling. You're paying real money for the chance of getting something, not the chance of getting nothing. That's an important distinction (At least at the moment....See lootbox). Morally clear or not, R* would be in for a world of hurt (criminally so) if they were found in violation of the Federal Wire Act.

    How does RDR2 online poker work?

    edit: It appears there are two currencies in RDR2; gold (linked the IRL money) and cash, which I gather is earned entirely in-game. I wonder how strict the partition between them is.
     
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  8. rallymorten

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    ..yes and no, though perhaps not for the reasons you think.

    The definition of "gambling" isn't as finite as you make it out to be. Some say it's only gambling if there's a chance of getting no rewards, others say it's gambling the moment you wager money against a desired outcome. Neither of them are inherently more wrong than the other, though one is far more stringent and, by extention, more likely to prevent gambling addiction.

    Remember when the AAA industry decided they weren't making enough money and invented the concept of Loot Boxes? They also didn't have a "losing scenario", and yet a whole raft of nations came to the conclusion that this was to be considered gambling because it's still "wagering money against a desired outcome". The Arena Wheel has no fundamental difference to your standard Loot Box, ergo it should be considered gambling.

    Indirectly, this is what's prompted Poker to be a region-restricted thing in RDO - because, quite frankly, if it wasn't, they'd have to adhere to local gambling laws. And we all know how AAA publishers hate adhering to anything.

    They can still pull a sneaky like they've done with RDO, and if the last few years are to be used as reference, that's exactly what they'll do. It'll tear what little balance is left in the game to shreds, but hey, the poor, poor Housers might just scrape enough together for another round of blow and strippers. That sounds like a joke, but it isn't. Go look that up.
     
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    Yeah I was refining my post when you responded. Loot boxes seem destined for regulation.
     
  10. pokemonfan58

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    Just a reminder, the Casino props have been updated.
     
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    Edit: Video won't show up but they did post about the Casino today. Next update I assume.

    Took them long enough.
     
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    "Whether you’re having a night on the town with friends or a seeking a brief solitary escape, The Diamond Casino & Resort is open to one and all. Come experience the tasteful luxury that the Diamond has to offer including best-in-class concierge, valet parking, the exhilaration of spinning the Lucky Wheel for a chance at life-changing prizes, a finely curated selection of spirits at the bars and lounges, a range of sophisticated table games and much more.

    Stay tuned for more details and an inside look at the largest and most extravagant addition to the sprawling metropolis of Los Santos, coming soon."
     
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  13. rallymorten

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    How many Shark Cards do we want to bet (laugh) that this "Lucky Wheel" is essentially Arena Wheel 2.0 but with even more RNG and either-you-go-bankrupt-or-win-enough-for-the-parking-ticket stakes?

    That being said:



    Oh well, at least the crunching and general mistreatment of workers won't be a completely all-on-black-and-it-came-out-red scenario.

    Anyway, my money's on (god, the gambling surprise mechanics jokes just write themselves at this point) this overall being Nightclubs 2.0, but instead of dancing, you're suddenly playing an even more expensive, RNG-ridden and generally BS version of TDU2 - including the bit where there are vehicles locked behind winning virtual gambling games. Just you watch.
     
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    Not necessarily a bad idea in my view, depending on how it is implemented. It would definitely make the casino update a little more interesting if there were unique items/vehicles you could only "win".
     
  15. McLaren

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    Did they change the building at all? Thought I read over the weeks leading up to the release, the building would look like it was re innovating.
     
  16. pokemonfan58

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    Construction props, yes. Entire building no.

    Honestly I hope we get some really good cars for this update. I would love for rockstar to add maybe a CLK GTR a Ferrari 330 P or a Carrera GT along with some decent luxury cars. *a PMP 600 maybe based on the later 300 models*?