GTA Online Thread (Useful Links in OP)

Discussion in 'Grand Theft Auto' started by dhandeh, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. rallymorten

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    Are we going to turn this thread into a philosophical debate on whether or not Underground 2's URL races and the entirety of Juiced are technically "illegal"? Because I am totally up for that! :lol:
     
  2. rallymorten

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    TIL Store Hold-ups is a thing R* can tunable-bonuses for.

    also yay gAAAmbling. What a worthy use of 100-hour work weeks and general unethical treatment of workers because unions are a bad thing.

     
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    Knew something had to happen today given that the qabeta was being updated earlier this week and all of the rumors going on over at the gtaforums on the next dlc speculation thread. Good thing I’m trying to grind to $20 million at the moment.

    In other words, it’s finally about time we’re getting a new DLC, and even better, the long awaited Casino dlc. :bowdown:
     
  4. Eunos_Cosmo

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    How is this going to work while taking into consideration shark cards & real money? Are they going to completely silo the casinos from the greater GTA economy? Meaning you can't buy any prior content with gambling winnings, gambling gameplay is via a completely separate currency, gambling winnings are only valid towards specific products that are also not purchasable with shark card money, etc. It would have to be a pretty hefty quarantine.

    More realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if you are given the opportunity to run the casino, but actually not given the ability to gamble.
     
  5. rallymorten

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    I consider this the most likely outcome as well. Online gambling is (for completely legitimate reasons) a minefield waiting to explode. Then again, not only is the Arena Wheel a thing, but where applicable you can play online Poker in RDR2, and being morally in the clear has never really been a strong suit of R* - for better *and* for worse.
     
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    Is there any way to get a clean interior on cars we buy from the dealers in game? I was trying to get a clean copy of a few of the older cars without all the clutter (coffee & soft drink cups, ashtray, phone holder, AC vent covers, etc.). I admit I'm picky about it, I'll just sell & re-buy until I have a clean one, but I had no luck after several tries. As far as I know it's random, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a way to do it.
     
  7. Eunos_Cosmo

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    So you're potentially using real money (the $GTA could have been purchased) to spin the wheel. But the wheel doesn't have losing outcomes from what I can tell, so it's not really gambling. You're paying real money for the chance of getting something, not the chance of getting nothing. That's an important distinction (At least at the moment....See lootbox). Morally clear or not, R* would be in for a world of hurt (criminally so) if they were found in violation of the Federal Wire Act.

    How does RDR2 online poker work?

    edit: It appears there are two currencies in RDR2; gold (linked the IRL money) and cash, which I gather is earned entirely in-game. I wonder how strict the partition between them is.
     
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  8. rallymorten

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    ..yes and no, though perhaps not for the reasons you think.

    The definition of "gambling" isn't as finite as you make it out to be. Some say it's only gambling if there's a chance of getting no rewards, others say it's gambling the moment you wager money against a desired outcome. Neither of them are inherently more wrong than the other, though one is far more stringent and, by extention, more likely to prevent gambling addiction.

    Remember when the AAA industry decided they weren't making enough money and invented the concept of Loot Boxes? They also didn't have a "losing scenario", and yet a whole raft of nations came to the conclusion that this was to be considered gambling because it's still "wagering money against a desired outcome". The Arena Wheel has no fundamental difference to your standard Loot Box, ergo it should be considered gambling.

    Indirectly, this is what's prompted Poker to be a region-restricted thing in RDO - because, quite frankly, if it wasn't, they'd have to adhere to local gambling laws. And we all know how AAA publishers hate adhering to anything.

    They can still pull a sneaky like they've done with RDO, and if the last few years are to be used as reference, that's exactly what they'll do. It'll tear what little balance is left in the game to shreds, but hey, the poor, poor Housers might just scrape enough together for another round of blow and strippers. That sounds like a joke, but it isn't. Go look that up.
     
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    Yeah I was refining my post when you responded. Loot boxes seem destined for regulation.
     
  10. pokemonfan58

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    Just a reminder, the Casino props have been updated.
     
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    Edit: Video won't show up but they did post about the Casino today. Next update I assume.

    Took them long enough.
     
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    "Whether you’re having a night on the town with friends or a seeking a brief solitary escape, The Diamond Casino & Resort is open to one and all. Come experience the tasteful luxury that the Diamond has to offer including best-in-class concierge, valet parking, the exhilaration of spinning the Lucky Wheel for a chance at life-changing prizes, a finely curated selection of spirits at the bars and lounges, a range of sophisticated table games and much more.

    Stay tuned for more details and an inside look at the largest and most extravagant addition to the sprawling metropolis of Los Santos, coming soon."
     
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  13. rallymorten

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    How many Shark Cards do we want to bet (laugh) that this "Lucky Wheel" is essentially Arena Wheel 2.0 but with even more RNG and either-you-go-bankrupt-or-win-enough-for-the-parking-ticket stakes?

    That being said:



    Oh well, at least the crunching and general mistreatment of workers won't be a completely all-on-black-and-it-came-out-red scenario.

    Anyway, my money's on (god, the gambling surprise mechanics jokes just write themselves at this point) this overall being Nightclubs 2.0, but instead of dancing, you're suddenly playing an even more expensive, RNG-ridden and generally BS version of TDU2 - including the bit where there are vehicles locked behind winning virtual gambling games. Just you watch.
     
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    Not necessarily a bad idea in my view, depending on how it is implemented. It would definitely make the casino update a little more interesting if there were unique items/vehicles you could only "win".
     
  15. McLaren

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    Did they change the building at all? Thought I read over the weeks leading up to the release, the building would look like it was re innovating.
     
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    Construction props, yes. Entire building no.

    Honestly I hope we get some really good cars for this update. I would love for rockstar to add maybe a CLK GTR a Ferrari 330 P or a Carrera GT along with some decent luxury cars. *a PMP 600 maybe based on the later 300 models*?
     
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    Really awesome event week at last.

    2x MC Businesses, Bunkers, Client Jobs & Special Cargo
    3x Air Freight
     
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    Oh man how much I love it when Client Jobs are Double Cash and RP. :D

    After doing some client jobs, vip work and vehicle cargo back to back and then ending off last night doing the Bogdan problem finale glitch for the first time, I went from 13 million all the way up to 19 million. Only 1 million away from being back at my $20 million goal which honestly if I really wanted to I could try and go for maybe 30 or 40 million since I now have some people to do the glitch.
     
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    Well, it's happening.

     
  20. STI9

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    Theres a casino website as well
     
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    Okay at this point I think we can safely say R* designers can do a better job designing certain cars.
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    Though I'm a bit more interested in the Obey, the proper-Lotus and the new Spyker brand
     
  22. TS050

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    The funny thing is that the Senna is so incredibly ugly that the GTA version looks better
     
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  23. rallymorten

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    ..so it is indeed a carbon-copy of TDU2's Casino. You know, that other thing where you took your fake cash to a Casino, converted it to Casino Chips and then spent that on slot machines, roulette and everything in between in the hopes of earning either more fake cash or one of a range of exclusive items. You know, the one that got a label denoting gambling content - in a world pre-2017. But do remind me why that shouldn't be the case for GTA despite that one allowing you to spend real money on buying fake money while TDU2 didn't.

    Baiting over, I'm intrigued by the shared parking, though mostly from a technical perspective. Is it legitimately a parking garage shared with the same few other players, or is it - as some believe - more of a "second lobby" exclusively for car shows? That'll be an interesting one.

    also the Progen "Sienna" (as far as we know not its actual name) totally doesn't just look like a Cheetah with a new front bumper. That's right, you're paying a premium for it carrying a Progen badge rather than Grotti. Surely that should be the other way around, but hey, coats and moating.

    also also Spyker and what I - for some reason - interpreted as an Alfa 4C. In which case it's an insta-buy.

    also also also good to see R* keeping their pop-culture references relevant by referencing that one job in that one I've-genuinely-forgotten-which-that's-how-many-there-is Fast and Furious.
     
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    tbf, Rockstar designers don't have to follow all the safety regulations or consider aerodynamics
     
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    Now you can feel better about your own personal tastes when seeing the garish modifications on other players' cars! :lol:
     
  26. McLaren

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    I'm hyped for the casino and the missions, and that's it. Ya'll know damn good and well those cars are about to be hand fed to us over the next 3 months. :lol:
     
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  28. JR98

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    Only 1 more day until the update is finally here. I’m super excited for it, can’t wait to see everything the casino has to offer and the new vehicles we’re getting
     
  29. Eunos_Cosmo

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    After an extremely long absence (like I don't think I've played since before Arena Wars came out), I finally jumped online yesterday. Mostly just fooled around, did a few VIP work jobs including doing a few rounds of sightseer on my whippet race bicycle. I was curious to know how fast the bike is, so I did some tests:

    -On the hoods, sprint (tapping A): 42mph (this is actually faster than the Rhino Tank and a small host of other powered vehicles)
    -On the hoods, normal pace (holding A): 35mph
    -On the drops, normal pace (holding A): 40mph. (I didn't do a test of sprinting on the drops)

    I suppose these numbers aren't completely unbelievable, but my GTA online character has basically Tour De France sprint pace and unending stamina. :lol: To hit 42mph, you need to be cranking out something like 2,000 watts (which is like 3 horsepower!). IRL, even the best athletes can only maintain that for seconds.
     
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