GTP Cool Wall: 1969-1974 Dino 246 GT & GTS

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1969-1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GT & GTS

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Famine



Calling the 246 a "Ferrari Dino" makes as much sense as calling an LF-A a "Toyota Lexus" - and I'm pretty sure no-one looks down on the LF-A as being "not a proper Toyota"... I'll judge the Dino 246 when it comes up.
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But if you register/insurance the car it will be placed as a Ferrari for the make and the model will be Dino 246/ 246 Dino.
And that makes it a Ferrari.:p
Famine
It's more like... Eunos Roadsters and Mazda MX-5s, kinda.

They're the exact same car built in the same place by the same people, but a Eunos Roadster is a Eunos and a Mazda MX-5 is a Mazda. People selling Eunos Roadsters - particularly grey import ones in the UK - will list them as Mazda MX-5s, which they are but aren't. Some even stick Mazda badges on them.
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And will it a registed as a Mazda for the make not Eunos.


@White & Nerdy can you put " around Ferrari just to make everyone happy.:)
 
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homeforsummer
If only there was some way of differentiating them, like a model year...
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I wonder how long this joke will keep going. :lol:

Anyway, sub-zero, I don't care that it only has 6 cylinders, rather than 8 or 12, I still think it's beautiful and it's not slow either. I'm sure they handle pretty well too.
 
RocZX
But if you register/insurance the car it will be placed as a Ferrari for the make and the model will be Dino 246/ 246 Dino.
And that makes it a Ferrari.:p
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Nope. It'll be registered as a Dino. It has a Dino VIN too, not a Ferrari one.
RocZX
will it a registed as a Mazda for the make not Eunos.
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Nope. They're registered as a Eunos (as are Eunos Cosmo, Eunos Presso and Eunos 30X models). They have a Eunos VIN too, not a Mazda one.
 
Dino what? Ferrari Dino? Oh, not a Ferrari? Wait it is a Ferrari? :confused:
 
Famine
Nope. It'll be registered as a Dino. It has a Dino VIN too, not a Ferrari one.
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Not in the US, it registered as Ferrari
*"Ferrari" Dino vin plate in the US*
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It only had a 5 digit chassis # just like every other Ferrari.


I was talking to a guy who owns one and talking about the whole Ferrari thing. He told me it was registered/insuranced under Ferrari. In NY you have a registration sticker on the windshield and it said Ferrari not Dino.


Nope. They're registered as a Eunos (as are Eunos Cosmo, Eunos Presso and Eunos 30X models). They have a Eunos VIN too, not a Mazda one.
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That is how they have them in GT games, they are under Mazda.
 
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Old Ferrari- instant subzero. But not my favorite Ferrari. So a solid cool rank.
 
RocZX
Not in the US
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The US is a law unto itself. This is particularly relevant as the appropriate US law didn't exist until 1981 - long after Dino was defunct.
RocZX
That is how they have them in GT games, they are under Mazda.
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Yeah, and they have all the Vipers under SRT - but I'm damned sure the 1999 Viper GTS wasn't made by or ever badged SRT. Why are we taking how Gran Turismo groups vehicles as their originating marque again?

I can tell you, categorically, that Eunos Roadsters do not have a Mazda MX-5 VIN - Mk1 MX-5s all begin JMZNA (J Japanese build; M Mazda; Z European export; NA chassis), Mk1 Miatas all begin JM1NA (J Japanese build; M Mazda; 1 car; NA chassis) and Eunos Roadsters all begin E-NA - because the Japanese have a different VIN standard to the USA (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards 115) and Europe (ISO 3779).

A Eunos Roadster is a Eunos. A Dino 246 GT is a Dino. Parent companies made them - and in the same factory - but the marque is different. Mazda's intended use for the Eunos marque was sports and luxury cars (later to have Amati split off the luxury cars, which was then canned) while Ferrari's intended use for the Dino marque was non-12 cylinder cars.
 
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Beeblebrox237
I may be the only one, but I don't give a damn whether it's a Ferrari or a Dino. It's gorgeous, and sub zero.
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You're not the only one, I don't care what it's called either.

I disagree on the looks, always thought this car looked a bit cartoony though.
 
Beeblebrox237
I may be the only one, but I don't give a damn whether it's a Ferrari or a Dino.
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It's kinda important. Enzo wanted to honour his dead son by naming a marque after him and though it admittedly didn't work out in the long run, marginalising that fact is a bit... disrespectful. The folk who say "it's not a proper Ferrari" are just as bad as those who say it is a Ferrari - it's not a Ferrari, proper or otherwise. It's a Dino, just as Enzo wanted it.

I'm minded to agree with niky's assessment - but the car the thread is named after doesn't exist.

Edit: And now it does (as if by magic).
 
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Wasn't "Dino" also used as a marketing ploy in the U.S. to create a lower priced, "affordable" sports car ? Sent here to boost sales of it's parent company, Ferrari, since they were struggling in sales ?

I seem to remember reading / hearing that somewhere.

None the less .... absolutely sub-zero.
 
Seriously uncool. One of the slowest production Ferraris ever! And don't say "Oh that's not why it was made it was supposed to be a gt."
 
BlackHawk1722
Seriously uncool. One of the slowest production Ferraris ever! And don't say "Oh that's not why it was made it was supposed to be a gt."
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This is one of the slowest Ferrari ever made:

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And you'd be hard-pressed to call it seriously uncool.

All road-going Ferraris are slow compared to their racing cars. And most of them were GTs. Ferrari has only produced, to my memory, two modern road-going cars (not track specials or modified track variants) that were purpose-built solely for speed. And that is the F40 and the Enzo.

 
Anyone who doesn't call it "A real Ferari" based on the Dino name is just picking hairs for the sake of picking hairs.
 
Because it isn't a Ferrari. It's a Dino.

Really not that hard to understand.
 
When it's at it's summer home in Florence it prefers to be called by it's formal name
"Dino", when it's partying it up in the U.S. it unbuttons its shirt and calls itself "Ferrari"
 
Bopop4
It is a Ferrari.

Made by Ferrari, for Ferrari.
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Yeah...you just had a VIN that says otherwise, as far as the rest of the world is concerned. It is both, just like a NSX is both a Honda/Acura and many many other situations in automotive history.
 
So?

Screw the vin, if Toyota suddenly started using the name "Sanmoto" for the RAV4's, it doesn't change the fact that they are still Toyotas.

I struggling to come up with the proper expression for not calling it a Ferrari, pompous ass is the first that comes to mind.
 
Bopop4
So?

Screw the vin, if Toyota suddenly started using the name "Sanmoto" for the RAV4's, it doesn't change the fact that they are still Toyotas.

I struggling to come up with the proper expression for not calling it a Ferrari, pompous ass is the first that comes to mind.
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You can calm down now, you're only looking like a child then proving people asinine for splitting hairs, if the history says it was intended to be another in house brand built by Ferrari then it was. I mean by your definition we should call all Ferrari's of today Fiats, right? Also answer carefully because you just did yourself in with that Toyota comment, and I was clearly joking at first but now...

Also take note of how to criticize the right way instead of being pompous yourself, I agreed that the splitting hairs by the normal bunch here is getting tedious to deal with but still.

Tornado
It certainly does seem like in the past couple weeks people have been picking apart innocuous things in the various Cool Wall threads just for the sake of doing so.
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I agree with this, I guess you become cool by doing so.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
and I was clearly joking at first but now...
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LMSCorvetteGT2
Yeah...you just had a VIN that says otherwise, as far as the rest of the world is concerned.
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Well I don't get it.

LMSCorvetteGT2
is getting tedious to deal with but still.
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It's not just tedious, it's getting to be ridiculous.

If you saw a 246 in real life and said, "Wow, a Ferrari 246", and then someone standing next to you said, "Well actually, it's a Dino because blah blah blah", you wouldn't have any of it.

It'd be as ridiculous a someone dismissing the idea of a Spoon Civic as a Honda because "It's a Spoon."
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
When it's at it's summer home in Florence it prefers to be called by it's formal name
"Dino", when it's partying it up in the U.S. it unbuttons its shirt and calls itself "Ferrari"
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^ Yes cause that sounds oh so serious.
Bopop4
Well I don't get it.
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The other part was sarcasm.

It's not just tedious, it's getting to be ridiculous.

If you saw a 246 in real life and said, "Wow, a Ferrari 246", and then someone standing next to you said, "Well actually, it's a Dino because blah blah blah", you wouldn't have any of it.

It'd be as ridiculous a someone dismissing the idea of a Spoon Civic as a Honda because "It's a Spoon."
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I'd entertain it in real life, hell I've done it with stupid car comments why not something that has some backing to it. Also isn't Spoon a tuner division for Honda? If someone was like look at my Honda Integra, and another person said it's actually an Acura...that is what is going on here.
 

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