GTP Cool Wall: 2012+ Morgan 3-Wheeler

[Slash]

With this... I agree. Four-wheeled ATVs should, on the face of it, be more stable, but a hell of a lot of people who get hurt when they turn the things over.
The big problem with three-wheeled cars with the single in front is the weight balance and engine placement. The Robin has its engine in exactly the wrong place. You want more of the weight concentrated between the rear wheels with that kind of layout. I've driven Chinese tripods that failed to try to kill me because the manufacturer put that nice, heavy engine behind the rear tires, where it belongs. (They're still incredibly scary, because they're upright little things with bedsprings for suspensions)

This is how the Nissan Deltawing works. Proper weight balance and design. Conventional wisdom used to be you couldn't get something like that to work, but then, the 911 has been defying conventional wisdom for decades.

I 110% agree with you. Weight transfer and placement is the key to making any three wheeled vehicle work properly. The thing with three wheeled ATV's is that the weight is centralized on the machine with a relatively low center of gravity, so that when you counter lean into a turn (at speed, low speeds this is entirely unnecessary), your shifting body weight keeps it planted on the ground. This also works with street legal three wheeled ATV's (along with legally drifting to an extent). The problem with typical three wheeled cars is that you are seated in a cockpit, and thus cannot shift the weight, or slide at speed, causing the result as seen in the picture that was posted earlier. On an ATV, this is easily avoided with the proper riding technique, whether or not it has three or four wheels; both are easily overturned with an improper technique. It's also worth noting that square tires notably improve the handling of three wheeled ATV's over the typical "balloon" style tires you generally see. Another big issue is the fact that cars are just plain heavy, whereas an ATV is incredibly light even with a rider on it, so maneuvering around corners is much easier.

 

[Harry6784]

Seems like that's just a quick deflection to save face, also as said for the nth time if it was sarcasm conveying it over the internet is quite hard. Try informing people next time in the actual post.

Not hard at all. Just try and read my post in context of this thread instead of nit picking it trying to find I way I could be wrong....

It didn't even make any sense.

Then I suggest you ask someone to explain it to you.

 

[Cano]

This thing is probably the most awesome form of land transportation in earth right now.

 

[McLaren]

Then I suggest you ask someone to explain it to you.

I suggest you try coming up with a better attempt at sarcasm as no one else got it, either. Better yet, a more relevant subject than bringing up a car that went out of production due to age & low sales against a trike that went out of production due to safety concerns.

 

[Downhill Dino]

I saw the sarcasm... it seemed fairly blatant...




Meanwhile, I gave the Morgan Uncool. I see the appeal, just not how it's cool. It's definitely interesting though.

 

[Slash]

I thought it was pretty obvious.

 

[Encyclopedia]

Cool. Not as cool as the original though.

 

[Harry6784]

I thought it was pretty obvious.

Apparently now I'm supposed to warn people before I make a sarcastic comment

[SARCASM]That's a great idea[/SARCASM]

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

It's cool saw one last year at a car show.

 

[JMoney]

It is the stupidest idea for a car ever. Seriously Uncool. (although cooler than a Can-Am Spyder)

If we say cars are sub-zero because of the "wow" factor, that's like saying I can paint my truck hot pink, put a tri-star on the hood, and put a statue of Obama on the roof, and the truck will be sub-zero.

 

[Jahgee]

Here's how this car goes for me

Cool Concept------>Seriously Uncool in public so much that it circles back to Sub Zero, back down to Seriously Uncool and then back to Sub Zero.

Sub Zero

 

[Azure Flare]

but then, the 911 has been defying conventional wisdom for decades.

German engineering in ze house, ja.

 

[CarBastard]

German engineering in ze house, ja.

Representing Deutschland!

 

[Jahgee]

Representing Deutschland!

Kinder Franc represent

 

[Vegard]

That interior ruins the whole vehicle for me.

Cool concept, poorly executed - uncool.

 

[homeforsummer]

If we say cars are sub-zero because of the "wow" factor, that's like saying I can paint my truck hot pink, put a tri-star on the hood, and put a statue of Obama on the roof, and the truck will be sub-zero.

Not really. The Morgan's "wow" factor is because it's a three-wheeled roadster that sounds and looks like a WWII fighter plane. Your truck's "wow" factor would be because you'd made it look ridiculous.

I'm constantly surprised how often people misunderstand the concept of a head-turning vehicle on this site. It's entirely possible for two vehicles, one fantastic and one awful, to turn an equal number of heads. In other words, it's entirely possible to have two (or more) degrees of "wow" - from "wow, that's awesome" to "wow, what a knob".

And I still can't see many people thinking the latter with the Morgan. I voted uncool on the LCC Rocket a few cool wall posts ago, but SZ on this - they're similar vehicles in concept, but the design is more successful at what it's aiming for and it doesn't take itself too seriously. In the Rocket you're just a windswept-looking head peering from a noisy wheeled cigar, wishing you were on a circuit where it would finally make sense.

The 3-Wheeler is like a wheeled pizza. Pizza doesn't purport to be healthy, or posh, or fashionable, or nouvelle cuisine. It's just a food you can pick up with your fingers that tastes great. The Morgan doesn't pretend to be quick on a track, or stylish, or refined, or comfortable - it's just a car built to put a big smile on your face.

 

[Kent]

Solid Uncool.
Alleged driving experience (supposed to be great fun) is all that saves it from Seriously Uncool.

Has no real use other than scooting along looking like a jackhole screaming PLEASE give me your attention!!!
Worse than yellow cars, super cars, and even worse than yellow super cars.

All of that goes without mention of the options for lame military decals.

 

[niky]

If a man is willing to suffer so much hardship (clunky driving controls, absolutely wretched ride, no grip, no weather protection, the noise, the vibration) for attention, then, like the woman brave enough to wear six inch high heels, he deserves all the attention he gets.

 

[Tyger]

Solid Uncool.
Alleged driving experience (supposed to be great fun) is all that saves it from Seriously Uncool.

Has no real use other than scooting along looking like a jackhole screaming PLEASE give me your attention!!!
Worse than yellow cars, super cars, and even worse than yellow super cars.

All of that goes without mention of the options for lame military decals.

This seems a little narrow-minded to me. The car really appeals to me but I am far from an attention-seeker and generally dislike such people. I would love one though because it just seems a blast, massive fun, and pretty unique.

 

[Kent]

This seems a little narrow-minded to me. The car really appeals to me but I am far from an attention-seeker and generally dislike such people. I would love one though because it just seems a blast, massive fun, and pretty unique.

The exact same could be said about MANY cars that have come up over time in these discussions.
Bottom line:
Call me narrow minded if you want but I don't care and I still think the 3 wheeler is a gimmicky grab for attention.

I wonder if you have to buy the helmet and goggles separately.

... Lame.

 

[Jet Badger]

I don't think the Morgan actually qualifies as a car we're used to seeing everyday and thus shouldn't be judged as one. It is more of a crossover between a bike and a car and quite an unique concept (from 100 years ago). It looks like something one would build in their shed and personally I fail to see how it could be used to show off your wealth. I see it more in the ballpark of an oversized gokart. It's very basic, has nothing to prove and is an absolute blast to drive. Ofcourse noone would daily drive it or get the kids to school. It's something you take out to the twisty roads in the hills where noone's around on a sunny summer morning.

As far as the coolness goes, the first thing I'd think if I saw someone driving one of these would be "Wow, this guy spent Ferrari money on roots driving experience machine rather than a flashy plastic appliance, he knows how to have fun. Must be a cool guy". Sub-Zero.

 

[XS]

I very surprised by the results! I could have sworn this thing was going to dominate the seriously uncool category. Like record breaking seriously uncool. I'd love to have one, but I'm not sure I could bring myself to drive it in public.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

Meh. Looks unusual but I'd never drive one.

 

[homeforsummer]

Meh. Looks unusual but I'd never drive one.

Do you mean "never own one", or would you genuinely not even be interested in having a go in one?

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

Do you mean "never own one", or would you genuinely not even be interested in having a go in one?

I'd never own one and I don't think I'd want to drive one. If I was held at gunpoint yes, but I wouldn't choose or go out of my way to drive one.

 

[homeforsummer]

I'd never own one and I don't think I'd want to drive one. If I was held at gunpoint yes, but I wouldn't choose or go out of my way to drive one.

Huh. Fair enough. There is literally not a car on earth I wouldn't want to drive at least once out of sheer curiosity. For something fun like the 3-Wheeler I'd jump at the chance without a second thought.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

Huh. Fair enough. There is literally not a car on earth I wouldn't want to drive at least once out of sheer curiosity. For something fun like the 3-Wheeler I'd jump at the chance without a second thought.

So you'd drive a crapbox BL car for the curiosity?

 

[Zenith]

So you'd drive a crapbox BL car for the curiosity?

I would.

 

[homeforsummer]

So you'd drive a crapbox BL car for the curiosity?

Of course I would. There's not a single GTPer-owned car I'd not want to drive out of curiosity either (yes, even that one).

Apart from anything, I might be able to give some more justification to the term "crapbox" than simply having heard it from the internet by a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who once owned one thirty years ago.

All cars deserve a fair assessment. Far too many here are prepared to write off certain cars without ever having been near them. I personally quite like driving the things and deciding for myself whether a car is any good or not.

 

[niky]

So you'd drive a crapbox BL car for the curiosity?

I've driven motorcycle-engined Chinese three-wheelers that were little more than tuktuks in drag. I've driven microtrucks that took over half-a-mile to hit 60 mph and didn't have the brakes to stop from that speed. I've driven ten wheelers. I've driven gigantic vans, ancient off-roaders with no power steering or amenities, supercars and even... gasp... Camries.

Anything is worth trying once. If only to confirm (as @homeforsummer says) that they truly are that bad.