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Estimate a realistic price for the rig (single monitor stand included).

  • 100€ - 150€

    Votes: 28 20.1%
  • 150€ - 200€

    Votes: 12 8.6%
  • 200€ - 250€

    Votes: 23 16.5%
  • 250€ -300€

    Votes: 19 13.7%
  • 300€ - 350€

    Votes: 19 13.7%
  • 350€ - 400€

    Votes: 10 7.2%
  • 400€ - 450€

    Votes: 8 5.8%
  • 450€ - 500€

    Votes: 7 5.0%
  • 500€ -550€

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • 550€ - 600€

    Votes: 10 7.2%

  • Total voters
    139
20€ off for that..

Honestly, I wasn't going to separate these, but changed my mind if it really is a deal breaker. :)
 
I read through the entire thread still sort of confused at what is actually included. :boggled:

What pieces are the "Laser cut metals" that are included?

What exactly will the buyer need to buy additionally to assemble the rig?

Is it:

Seat w/slider
Nuts/bolts (could you provide a list of sizes and quantity needed so I can price these out locally)
Aluminum box tubing (could you provide a list of sizes and quantity needed so I can price this out also)

Thanks.
 
The 1st post is up to date 👍

Laser cut metals are the metal parts you can see on the pics. They are 2mm thick.

You'll additionally need:
- aluminium bars
- bolts & nuts etc, if we don't agree that I'll sell them to you as well
- seat (of course)

I'll post a list of the needed fastening stuff & aluminium stuff a bit later. :cheers:
 
ok,

here are the aluminium stuff measures for the rig. I've chopped them here in 6 pieces that will fit to a normal car. In the brackets are the individual lenghts for all the parts:


40x40x2
1810mm (575mm + 575mm + 75mm + 75mm + 510mm)
1860mm (800mm + 800mm + 260mm)

tot. 3670mm

20x20x1,5
2080mm (590mm + 590mm + 450mm + 450mm)
2112mm (510mm + 510mm + 546mm + 546mm)
1226mm (360mm + 360mm + 506mm)
1596mm (360mm + 360mm + 438mm + 438mm)

tot. 7014mm


The bolts & nuts will cost around 15€ - 20€. Too long list to write here. :p
 
199€ + 72€ (shipping) = 270€

That is including all the stuff mentioned in the 1st post.

:cheers:
 
I might be interested as well but cant be bothered reading through the entire thread.

How do I get a hold of that backet seat with the runnings? How much does it cost or will it affect the cost of this entire rig, dont want to bother with a half arsed setup.

Cheers,

Justin @ Sydney, Australia
 
I might be interested as well but cant be bothered reading through the entire thread.

How do I get a hold of that backet seat with the runnings? How much does it cost or will it affect the cost of this entire rig, dont want to bother with a half arsed setup.

Cheers,

Justin @ Sydney, Australia


If you mean the actual seat, you will need to figure that one out yourself. So no seat of any kind is included.

That is a very nice cockpit Timpaq. Was it hard to put it together?

Thanks! :cheers: It was easy, but a little time consuming to put together. But if you compare it to a time that it would require to do one with welding etc. it's rather fast job to accomplish. For me at least.. not that experienced in welding.
 
I've sold almost all (4 left) of the first set of ten pcs. Mostly went to Finnish guys so not so much posts here, but maybe Maffster will post something soon. I know he's a bit busy with grinding.. :D

Here's a few pics anyway from a Finn who painted the whole thing. :) Little mistake happened as the text on the lower side was left behind the 20x20 bar, but I think it looks quite nice (text says T.Koskela design - was his own idea and will to put it there btw 👍). I was going to ask from him if we could join forces and I could deliver hand painted custom paints ;) We'll see about that later..

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here's link to some of his works.. you can find the rig pics there too..

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Got a new one done yesterday, sold the older ones I built for myself :p

Now that I have had some back issues, I'm glad I have the full adjustability.. this way I can put the seat very high (on pics) to lessen the strain on my back :)

Sorry for the crappy pics..

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guys, if somebody's interested, i'll be selling the last ones of these cheap to keep the project going forward. Pm me if interested. I can sell the one on the pics too if you want 100% ready package. :)
 
I am very interested these things look great. Unfortunately at the moment im very cheap also. So thats the key word ive picked up from your last post. How cheap and its gotta come to australia :)
 
It depends of what you'd need. To Australia I'd guess you'd want only the "sheet parts" (metal parts & plywoods + plastic end caps)

I can sell them for 150€ + shipping. Then you'd only need to do the aluminium bars (see the attachment for those). That only requires cutting to lenght & drilling some holes. 👍

updated the 1st post too.

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as it says in 1st post.. to Aus the shipping is around 72€. It's a long trip from Finland.. :lol:
 

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Right, Its been nearly two months since I received my GTrr from Mr Timo and its about time I shared some thoughts on the rig after some extreme use and to offer a kind of review of sorts...

Firstly, ordering the rig was very easy, simply a matter of paypalling Timo and supplying an address, the stuff arrived just a few days later, excellently packed and all the needed parts were safe and secure and in perfect condition. 👍

Assembly
Assembly if I'm honest was not easy as many of the parts look alike, but if you follow the drawings in Timo's PDF's you can not go wrong... suffice to say I did not follow them and bugged Timo to help me figure it out, so any difficulty in assembly was all my own fault. Also as you build the rig you'll see that it is easier to build it in sections then assemble the sections afterwards and as you assemble more pieces it becomes easier to identify what goes where. Its just a matter of being logical and methodical unlike me. :dunce: You'll see that at first it is quite daunting, but as the rig comes together the sheer simplicity and elegance of the design becomes very clear. 👍

Fitting the Seat
I chose a cloth seat from an MX5 Mk1 for my seat, mainly because it has housing for two speakers in the headrest for the surround sound, also they're very comfortable and reasonably light as well as pretty cheap and readily available. Fixing the seat involved drilling holes in the main box section of the rig to allow the cross-members to be positioned correctly for the seat. This was most easily done by mounting the seat to the cross-members and then placing it on the rig and drilling through while in situ. It was very easy and any monkey with a drill could manage this... Hell, I did!

Fitting the wheel
This was extremely easy as the pre-drilled and cut ply wood was a perfect match, and took all of a couple of minutes to complete. There isn't much more to tell, its just a piece of cake.

Adjusting to fit
I'm a pretty tall fella at 6'3" and this was a worry for me, so when fitting my seat I attached it about an inch (25mm) further back than the pre-drilled holes and together with seat forward/backward adjuster rails this gave plenty of room.

The pedal angle has a lot of adjustment as you can see, but the lowest setting was fine for me as I like pedals somewhat flat to the floor they're at maybe 10-15 degrees now and that is just fine. The precision cut bezel is extremely well made and allows for some extremely fine adjustment for those that are very particular. In my opinion this is perhaps the most genius bit of the design.

Wheel Adjustment is very good, with a very large choice of positions available. I prefer mine at maybe 5 degrees off vertical which is approximately in the middle of the available range. One thing I will mention is that you do need to really tighten the bolts up extremely tight to make sure the wheel doesn't shift angle while driving. This happened to me at first, but after tightening them down really well it hasn't moved since. I have the wheel set at the second from top height just to allow my long legs to get under the wheel, but for normal sized people there is ample room and I would imagine most would have the wheel at a lower height.

How the rig feels
Well, this the real heart of the matter no? If a rig doesn't feel good you won't use it will you?

Due to the vast range of adjustability you are damn near guarenteed to be able to find a position that works for you whether you're a little fella or a jolly green giant, no shadow of a doubt in my mind about that! I can tell you that for the first month since GT5 was released I spent almost every waking moment in the rig and never felt fatigue or discomfort. Previously I often felt pain in my wrists while driving for extended periods but this rig has been the magic bullet that cured that annoyance. I can just drive and drive and never feel like I have to hang on to the wheel for dear life as I would before. It makes the whole experience vastly more relaxing and enjoyable. But really and perhaps crucially, the rig has helped me progress as a driver, I don't need to think for even a nanosecond about has my seat shifted or worry that my arms are getting tired, all my focus and attention can go into the driving and can say that my consistency has leaped to a new level since I started using the rig... I just enjoy driving so much more now! 👍

Stability
I've got to say when I first assembled the rig it looked like it was going to flex like crazy due to the number of joints and bolts, I really had doubts. Thing is that Timo is no fool and the pieces are so precisely manufactured that once all the bolts are correctly tightened there is virtually no perceptible flex, its really quite astonishing, the rig doesn't wobble as many off the shelf ones do and is incredibly sturdy, I can see this lasting me for years and years.

One thing that did worry me was that the ply the wheel attaches to is seemingly quite thin and before the rig was even assembled I was considering ways to stiffen it. Again, this was all part of Timo's grand plan... The thinner ply does indeed flex and with a G25 attached there is maybe 5mm of vertical play if you really tug on the wheel. I was hoping there would be zero play, but what this play gives you is a massive benefit which I shall explain:- When you get a big kick from the force feedback the flex takes the edge off it and what you get is an effect where its a lot easier to maintain control, it's like passive suspension and may also be part of the reason my wrist pain has ceased. Absolute genius...


Gonna wrap this up now as its getting long, but heres a final few thoughts...

Aesthetically the rig is beautiful as you can all see from the pictures throughout the thread, theres not much more to say other than its even sexier in real life. The materials and workmanship are of the highest caliber, and the aluminium box-section is really easy to work with for any custom seat mounting that is needed. All you'll need to customise and build the rig is a couple of adjustable spanners and a drill for your seating requirements.

I can personally guarantee that anyone that buys one of Timo's rigs will have made a great investment in their gaming, it is so abundantly clear how much care, thought, effort and love have gone into the design and I'm very please to be able to confirm that the experience of using the rig fully validates that.

Thanks Timo :bowdown:
 
Thanks for the very detailed review MAff :cheers: Really glad you like it! I know it's a bit complicated, but luckily it needs to be assembled only once :p
 
I've had one GTrr in my work room for a couple of weeks now. First I have to say, that customer service was first class! Timo invited me over to see and test the rig and he explained the features and adjustabilities throughout. He even made some coffee!

Most of the time I've been using the rig with my seat simply laid down on it, because it took me a while to find out time to do a proper mounting for it. It has worked just fine even like this. Of course getting into the seat has been quite a careful process. But today I got the seat and rails mounted. Now I can start to find that optimal driving position for me. And as it can be seen from the pictures, the possibilities are plenty. It really offers great possibilities to adjust your driving position to your liking. I would be surprised if some other rig on the market could match GTrr's adjustability.

Now that the rig is already in my house and I don't need to bargain anymore, I can say that I really like the design and the looks. It's technical and a bit like a racing car, it's made to serve a purpose and it's not afraid to show it. I really like this approach on cars, so it was easy to like it in the rig too.

Maffski already wrote a good detailed review, so I'll keep it short. I really like the rig and I'm not afraid to recommend it to others. And my wife is happy too, that I decided to purchase a rig instead of building one on my own.. :lol:
 
I've had one GTrr in my work room for a couple of weeks now. First I have to say, that customer service was first class! Timo invited me over to see and test the rig and he explained the features and adjustabilities throughout. He even made some coffee!

Most of the time I've been using the rig with my seat simply laid down on it, because it took me a while to find out time to do a proper mounting for it. It has worked just fine even like this. Of course getting into the seat has been quite a careful process. But today I got the seat and rails mounted. Now I can start to find that optimal driving position for me. And as it can be seen from the pictures, the possibilities are plenty. It really offers great possibilities to adjust your driving position to your liking. I would be surprised if some other rig on the market could match GTrr's adjustability.

Now that the rig is already in my house and I don't need to bargain anymore, I can say that I really like the design and the looks. It's technical and a bit like a racing car, it's made to serve a purpose and it's not afraid to show it. I really like this approach on cars, so it was easy to like it in the rig too.

Maffski already wrote a good detailed review, so I'll keep it short. I really like the rig and I'm not afraid to recommend it to others. And my wife is happy too, that I decided to purchase a rig instead of building one on my own.. :lol:

:lol: I had beer in the freeze too, but coffee made the trick already! :p Great to hear you don't feel the money was wasted :)

When you get everything just right, could you post a pic?



And I'm still in the process of making myself a new one! It's weird how just when I finish one, somebody comes up and buys it off.. :odd:

:cheers:
 
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When you get everything just right, could you post a pic?

Yeah, no problem. If you want to have a sneak peak on it already, go and check out varikkosuora. There's "in-progress" picture. But I don't want to post in here until wirings, driving position and everything else are sorted out 👍

And I'm still in the process of making myself a new one! It's weird how just when I finish one, somebody comes up and buys it off.. :odd:

:cheers:

Haha, well, for that I believe you can blame yourself. I asked for the pieces in the first place and it was you who offered the ready one ;)
 
When you get everything just right, could you post a pic?

Everything is not just right, but it's coming on okay. This is now the first "real" setup, where I think everything has it's place, most of the cables are out of the way and so on. There is of course still things to be worked out, like I don't think that 5m long HDMI cable is required for that 20cm distance :lol: As a DFGT owner, I even managed to make that shifter holder useful!

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Hi.

I like this cockpit. I´m considering buy one, but I have two question:

· Will you made it Thrustmaster T500RS compatible (including the necessary drills), Timppaq?

· Can the pedal and wheel surfaces set in plain (horizontal) possition (not inclinated)?.

Thanks.
 
Hello,
my question would be, if there are also other holes for different pedals and wheels? I have got a Fanatec GT2 wheel and Clubsport pedals. Will they fit on your GTrr? Will you perhaps drill the other holes for this constellation or would that be my job?

Regards
ogami
 
Hi.

I like this cockpit. I´m considering buy one, but I have two question:

· Will you made it Thrustmaster T500RS compatible (including the necessary drills), Timppaq?

· Can the pedal and wheel surfaces set in plain (horizontal) possition (not inclinated)?.

Thanks.

The parts I have here ready do not have the mounting holes for T500RS at the moment. When I go to work tomorrow I can check if there is enough room to drill them.. I will get back to this.. (either I would do them or then I would send you a drilling template)

It is possible to put both of those surfaces in plain horizontal position.

:)

Hello,
my question would be, if there are also other holes for different pedals and wheels? I have got a Fanatec GT2 wheel and Clubsport pedals. Will they fit on your GTrr? Will you perhaps drill the other holes for this constellation or would that be my job?

Regards
ogami

I will check this too tomorrow when I get to open the 3D model of the rig.. Don't have any way to check this before tomorrow.

So I will get back to both of you tomorrow. And just FYI, I have only two sets of these parts left from the first set so if you both would buy those, they would be the last for now. And also, I'm moving soon to another city so at the moment I don't have the possibility to make those aluminium parts.

And sorry for the late reply guys.


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Thanks for the pics vompatti!! :cheers:
 
The parts I have here ready do not have the mounting holes for T500RS at the moment. When I go to work tomorrow I can check if there is enough room to drill them.. I will get back to this.. (either I would do them or then I would send you a drilling template)

It is possible to put both of those surfaces in plain horizontal position.

Thanks, Timppaq.

Could you post any image with this parts (pedals and wheel surfaces) fully horizontal?.

Thanks again.
 
Damn, sorry guys.. forgot completely. :ouch: Too hectic day @ work.. I put a reminder now, so will remember tomorrow.

rebla, I can take pics of the 3d model that shows how it is possible. I don't have a rig put together here now (vompatti bought the latest one.. :p ), so I can't take any real pics.
 
Damn, sorry guys.. forgot completely. :ouch: Too hectic day @ work.. I put a reminder now, so will remember tomorrow.

rebla, I can take pics of the 3d model that shows how it is possible. I don't have a rig put together here now (vompatti bought the latest one.. :p ), so I can't take any real pics.

Ok, not hurry... when it´s possible.

Thanks.
 
Here's a pdf for you rebla.. that should make it clear. :)

About the T500RS - the pedals & the wheel will fit and it is possible to drill the mounting holes to the plates. Just checked, there is enough free space for them 👍
 

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