Finished [GTTCC-2] Gran Turismo Touring Car Championship S2 | xflow1390 is the champion!!!!!

Discussion in 'GT6 Racing Series' started by DirtyNurbKing58, Oct 19, 2014.

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What tyres should be available for wet races?

Poll closed Oct 31, 2014.
  1. Sports Soft tyres only

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    33.3%
  2. SS, Intermediates and Full Wets

    7 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. SS and Full wets only

    7 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. Ian_83

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    "It's just a game"....

    The amount of times I've been told that! :lol: It is true, except that the challenge/competition is still real, it just takes place in a virtual world and for some (competitive people) it's still important.

    I'm so glad that I have my own place. :)
     
  2. True-blue-8

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    Shame stig, I get fed up when my family only turn their net off 10 minutes before the race :/

    With pens obviously nothing we can do about it. Emo does have a point, however the main problem with it is that if an FR wins then they have no chance of trying to finish high, but you do with an FF. I did a few number crunching (which i'm terrible at, so bear with me) but the FF cars still have a bigger percentage of their performance compared to an FR. I've came up with something that i'll be trying in the holidays. I've found if for example a 300bhp car gets a -5bhp drop, then a 270bhp car would need a -4bhp to level it out. But need to try this

    I've had no incidents so points will be up soon.

    Also, got my first Uni offer today :gtpflag:
     
  3. David Talle

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    Or did you thought of applying power penalties to FF cars and weight penalties to FR ?
    Or maybe that's too messy. :boggled:
     
  4. True-blue-8

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    Hmm that's a point, will try that out :tup:

    Now w have the break and there's a lot of talk about things we can do. I've started with GTTCC-3 already but will be concentrating on that for now. If anyone actually wants to help, i'll open a convo thread (too early for a proper one). People don't have to test etc but if they're there just voicing their opinions is enough. let me know if you wat me to add you to it :tup:
     
  5. Storm_SP17

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    I'll want to be added, please!

    Also nurb, definitely give the idea someone posted about going the %age route for penalties a test. I'll let you know a bit about how I was testing with cars in the series I have on hold right now. One hint though, weight tiers
     
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  6. True-blue-8

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    I probably explained it bad a few posts ago then, but yeah i'd been doing the % thing and I think it's the best route for us to go down. Personally i'd prefer bhp handicaps to weight, unless we can actually make them work without adding really huge amounts, which I doubt.
     
  7. True-blue-8

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    Round 5 - Grand Valley East Reverse

    Race 1
    Pole - yuc2002

    1. yuc2002
    2. StormPacer17
    3. Buck_aroo2
    4. Pamellaaa
    5. xflow1390 (28)
    6. ric1258
    7. TheOldStig
    8. ElCondensator
    9. choochter
    10. DR_ingo5
    11. alex_salmon28
    12. JOE9074

    Fastest lap - StormPacer17
    Lap leaders - yuc2002, StormPacer17, Pamellaaa


    Race 2
    SuperPole - StormPacer17

    1. alex_salmon28 (Reprimand)
    2. StormPacer17 (28)
    3. xflow1390 (7)
    4. Buck_aroo2 (21)
    5. choochter
    6. TheOldStig
    7. DR_ingo5
    8. Pamellaaa (14)
    9. ElCondensator
    10. ric1258
    11. JOE9074
    12. yuc2002 (35)
    DNF. True-blue-8

    Fastest lap - StormPacer17
    Lap leaders - alex_salmon28, StormPacer17, xflow1390


    Race 3

    1. yuc2002
    2. FaithlessEmo
    3. True-blue-8
    4. Pamellaaa
    5. choochter (7)
    6. ric1258
    7. DR_ingo5
    8. xflow1390 (21)
    9. Buck_aroo2 (14)
    10. StormPacer17 (28)
    11. ElCondensator
    12. JOE
    13. alex_salmon28 (35)
    Fastest lap - FaithlessEmo

    Lap leaders - True-blue-8, yuc2002


    Points and next round info

    Apart from the lag again, it was still a good nights racing, even with the grid spreading out. Thanks all, see you in 2 weeks and have a brilliant Christmas :) :tup: :cheers:
     
  8. xflow1390

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    Top ten including 2 drop scores so far

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    StormPacer17: 137
    2.
    FaithlessEmo : 128
    3.
    yuc2002 : 127
    4.
    xflow1390 : 123
    5.
    NinjitsuEvolved: 113
    6.
    Buck_aroo2 : 111
    7.
    alex_salmon : 110
    8.
    STOCKY8A1 : 88
    9.
    True-blue-8 : 80
    10.
    Dr_ingo5 : 77
     
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  9. Storm_SP17

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    Christ! I only thought there was one drop score! Wooo!
     
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  10. David Talle

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    What's going on with the Subaru ? It's all the way down the rankings :nervous:
     
  11. alex salmon

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    i suck...
     
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  12. True-blue-8

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    No one's using it :lol:

    People saying the infiniti is nice, it sucks. But not my lap time :p
     
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  13. David Talle

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    I agree the Infiniti is very similar to the Subaru VGT (the best :p ) or the Nissan while the Chaparral is at least somewhat different to drive and much more exciting IMO.
    But I still don't understand why they don't bother making the cockpit view. Feels like job's half done, it sucks !
     
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  14. Ian_83

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    A bit like GT6....... :rolleyes:
     
  15. Pamellaaa

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    Shouldn't I be in there as number 9? I have 82 points and have missed more than two rounds!
     
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  16. Pamellaaa

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    Weight doesn't work unless the whole series is based around it, a single make support race based around weight balancing could be good fun though, if you are interested in that PM me, I have something pretty much tailor made for that!

    Weight also needs much higher numbers, if you consider it as a percentage 35 bhp out of a 260 bhp car is well over 10%. To do the same with a 1250kg car you are approaching 200kg (this is mental arithmetic at the moment because I can't be bothered to work it out properly but it gives you an idea of how much weight you need for an equivalent change in performance, this is why it's hard to get it right)
     
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  17. David Talle

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    And what about PP penalties? I'm really unsure it'll work since the PP system isn't very accurate...
    But I guess any car that loses 20PP should be equally penalized regardless of the initial PP score, no ?
     
  18. True-blue-8

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    Not always but it could work.
    In the convo thread we seem to think the % idea is the best route to go down, for now.
     
  19. Pamellaaa

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    That's interesting, gives people the option of power or weight I guess. Would probably end up with everyone picking weight though, can't imagine anyone here thinks their car has too much power :p
     
  20. Pamellaaa

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    Can I get involved in the conversation thread as well please?
     
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  21. David Talle

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    Yeah but if you don't allow weight to be changed, I don't know if every car loses PP at the same rate regarding the power lost (don't know if it is very clear lol).
     
  22. True-blue-8

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    The PP is something I thought, but of course we can't do weight. But maybe see what the cars bhp drop is with say, 10pp reduction.

    Adding you now Pam :tup:
     
  23. Pamellaaa

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    This might be a low effort way of giving a rough percentage power decrease. Could save some calculation effort I guess.
     
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  24. David Talle

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    I mean maybe it could match with the % system while being easier to manage. All this needs proper check in game, it's highly theoretical for now ! :lol:

    Edit
    That's exactly what I mean !
     
  25. Pamellaaa

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    Yeah, if it gives an approx percentage it could work. Who is to say it will actually be followed though, all the cars (even the same models) are at different PP all the time at the moment I think.
     
  26. True-blue-8

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  27. Ian_83

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    HP penalties are certainly the fairest way of doing things. As has already been mentioned, altering the weight of cars can sometimes improve them slightly, unless the weight increase is stupidly high.... It would be a bit annoying having to alter a cars weight too, because it could mess up a really nice tune for someone and be an even greater handicap than anticipated.

    The HP penalty done on a percentage basis is actually a really clever idea. It wouldn't be too difficult on race night either. :tup: It keeps things fairer, although it would still need to be tested.
     
  28. True-blue-8

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    Yep, it's not giving someone 'this amount' of penalty, but rather reducing the cars overall performance equally.
    Of course testing needs to be done :lol:

    Do you want me to add you to the convo mate? I'd be happy to have your opinion on things :tup:
     
  29. Teuchter

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    Here's a whisky, welcome to the club! 
     
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  30. Storm_SP17

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    Ahem...
    You don't have to imagine. :sly:
     
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