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Heres my first 2 HDR's , comments and criticism are very well appreciated :)

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these look really good, but could someone post a comparison between a normally exposed photo and a HDR photo? i would just like to see the difference :)
 
Here's another example of the differences I only wish the skies were a bit more consistent in GT5, sometimes there's really not a lot you can do without doing to much repair work ;)



 
As usual, it's been too long since I've visited this thread - or posted. After having posted my HDR tutorial, I thought I'd go back and look through some of the HDR images and comment on them; hope I don't come off too harshly! :nervous: Since I don't have the whole day, I'll just go back a couple of weeks to Feb 12...

justind01: #347 - the first shot has a bit of haloing, but otherwise looks good. I love the second shot's sense of motion and the saturation's about right. The third one has a great subject (that Alfa's gorgeous); I'm not certain the selective coloring (that's what it looks like you used) is a good filter match, but it's still a nice shot. #350 - one thing to really watch out for in HDR is color banding; it's less noticeable in Photo Travel (since you can shoot at 2x), but it can be hard to get rid of in Photomode.

DawgCCCP: #351 - the first and second shots are good examples of why shooting a white car in HDR is so difficult... but the F40 is a nice combination of miniature filter and HDR. 👍

supraking: #352 - the first one's nice and subtle; definitely the kind of HDR I prefer, though some might disagree. Composition's a little too tight to the bottom-left corner for my taste, but I like it overall. As for the second shot, the Lambo's crazy orange lends itself well to HDR, doesn't it? I like the comp and, once again, it's a relatively subtle tonemapping. (One post-processing tip: HDR tends to over-lighten the black of tires - a quick masked levels layer in Photoshop to bring back the black makes a big improvement.)

Supercharger666: #353 - just about perfect shot!! 👍 Reflections are brilliant, edges sharp and clean. The only minor gripe is the little bit of haloing near the left side of the rear.

Foxbat: # 356 - Not bad at all for your first two attempts, Foxbat! The halo effect is visible, but it appears you're going for a more surreal look anyway (at least in the first shot). Keep up the good work!

is there a tutorial for this kind of pics ?

There is one now! :)

Onbail: #361 - I like the shot (quite a bit, actually), but it almost looks like a regular photo, not an HDR. Pretty subtle tonemapping?

Sprite: #362 - Interesting; using the same exposure, processed multiple times, to generate an HDR image. Creates a different look, that's for sure.

TheDarkAlex: #367 - not bad for a first shot; reflections are nice and crisp. #368 - too much haloing around the rear for my taste - that can work well if you're going for an overly-surreal look, though.

maccyski: #369 - very good for first attempts! 👍 In the first shot, it looks like your camera moved between exposures (it's most obvious where the GT logo is ghosted), but you seem to have managed to process it just fine. There's a bit too much noise in the skies in the Fiat and X2010 shots, but not too bad. On the Pagani/Piazza del Campo shot - this is a location where you have to do a little more in the merging work. I'm not sure if you're using Photomatix, but if you are, you'll want to check "Attempt to reduce ghosting artifacts" and then select "Moving objects/people". That will help avoid the weird effect you get in the sky from the clouds that move between exposures. And the Pagani looks grey there - was it white? And for #372, it is hard to get standard cars to look good, but your Carlton shots are definitely quality! 👍

theRukus: #373 - definitely not 'total crap'; it shows some potential for future work. Might want to watch your saturation levels; look at the skin tones of the people in the background. (Oh, and the same tip about ghosting artifacts/moving people; you can see some ghosting evident in the guys to the right of the screen. As to your #382, this might be an example of a shot where HDR doesn't give you much advantage. That is, there aren't a lot of shadows to 'open up', and not a lot of super-bright highlights to tone down.

KiroKai: #375 - very natural-looking, subtle HDR there! The sky's still a touch overexposed, but nothing a quick levels/curves mask can't fix. :)

FiRo: #377 - is it my imagination, or does orange tend to be one of the better colors for HDR processing? Anyway, very nice tonemapping. Composition's a little too center for my taste, but the colors are well-done.

Tompie913: #384 - Nice first effort, but the background (arches) is so bright, it pulls my eye away from the car. Still, the reflections on the car are nicely done, and there's only a minimal halo effect. :)

Big Ron: #386 - these are truly excellent shots; the tonemapping here is very realistic (save for a bit of haloing around the Skyline in the second shot, but it's really not bad). Love that first shot! 👍 Overall, this set is exactly what HDR is supposed to be (imho) - subtle, realistic, where the emphasis is on the car and the composition, not the effect. :cheers:

maccyski: #391 - first shot has a unique perspective and great sense of motion, but the HDR seems overdone to me. Second shot also has great composition and motion; I'm just not attracted to hot pink cars! :lol: Though I'll tell ya what; you managed to make it look really good in the third shot. Good work on the F40 and Impreza RM as well.

Kingpin326: #393 - first shot is nicely done; see my comment to supraking regarding getting the tires back to their original black. Second shot might have actually been too subtle; the sky is still overexposed and takes a bit away from teh image. Nice color, though. :) The third shot is, like so many others before it, a good example of why white is such a hard color to shoot in HDR. I love the 787B shot, though, and the RM 'Vette at the Hangar looks good (though there's some weird artifacting just above and below the middle of the spoiler.

gizmo1981: #394 - while I may chide your choice of paint jobs, I can't argue with the tonemapping on this image. Great capture of reflections, the interior is well-lit and detailed, and none of the highlights are blown out. Nicely done! 👍 And on #403, same thing!

why_spyder: #395 - wonderfully subtle; captured the reflections nicely. Could use a touch of Photoshop (re-blacken the tires and tone down the brick - it's a little bright).

dandroid13: #396 - not sure I'm a fan of gold chrome, actually! Composition on the first and second shots isn't bad at all. Looks like you might have overdone the saturation a bit on all three, though... lots of banding in the sky on the second and third ones, and then there's the jaggies from the dust. Sure wish PD would work on how that's rendered, but until then, these kinds of shots require some detailed post-processing in order to really shine.

Big Ron: #397 - what can I say but... niiiice. Again, the effect allows the car to take center stage; the effect itself does not. Sublime! 👍

dandroid13: #401 - interesting comparison. The script (i.e., fake HDR) clearly emphasizes oversaturation at the expense of eyeball-bleeding inducing pain, while qtpfsgui for Linux does a good job of bringing detail to shadowed areas (see, e.g., the driver and cockpit), but manages to wash out everything else. With the qtpfsgui image, I could at least see rescuing that in Photoshop - maybe. On #404, it's just an opinion, but I don't think matte colors lend themselves very well to HDR processing. The car looks about as I'd expect it to in a normal exposure - the only parts of the image that have been impacted by HDR are the over-saturated background and banner sign.

raybob95: #406 - you'll definitely want to get your focal point right before you try this again, and I know we'd all appreciate slightly smaller images in the thread. As for the HDR look, just keep playing around with various sliders and you'll get the hang of it! If you're using Photomatix, be sure to see my tutorial for an explanation of each slider and how it impacts your photo.

Sl1mS4di3: #407 - just brilliant! That first shot, the sky is perfect and the car is tack-sharp, and the detail shots (especially the fourth one) are very well-done! 👍

dice1998: #408 - as Moglet suggested, you should be entering the 2.0 comps. I can't use my HDR skills there, either, but it's clear from this first shot that your skills will transfer nicely. Very well-done shot!

gt5 brad gt5: #409 - I like the composition, and the way the car is backlit, but the saturation might be a bit too much. There's a nasty halo around the tree on the right as well, and some banding in the sky. Keep it up, and you'll nail it soon!

gizmo1981: #410 - looks like you went away from the more subtle processing you'd done with your earlier HDR shots; I liked the other ones for their subtlety and realism (well, as realistic as a chrome car can be, that is). This one, not so much, I'm afraid - sorry. :( In the meantime, if you want to see a couple of HDR composite shots I did early on, take a look at these. Four Nissans, three Ferraris, two Ferraris and my favorite - four Chevys. :)

emery88: #411 - The lighting along the rear flank of the Camaro is nicely captured and the effect is subtle. Sky needs a little work, but you're definitely on your way! :)

Abraxas: #415 - for a first attempt, I like it a lot! Good color, nice sense of motion - and impressive for a standard car. There's a little bit of haloing present, and some banding in the sky, but nothing a little Photoshop couldn't fix. Keep it up! :)

s12ken: #419 - I've got to try tackling panoramic shots next... what a great look. In the meantime, nice color and reflections on this one. I'm not sure about the sky (the clouds just don't quite look right), but overall I still like. :)

ps3dan101: #421 - the second shot is way, way oversaturated. My eyes are still watering, I'm afraid. But the F40 shot is nicely sublime - the reflections of the trees almost give the black paint a greenish tone. If you hadn't posted these together, I'd never have thought they'd come from the same photographer!

dice1998: #422 - I loved your other shot... this one not so much. The dark areas of the Jag are still too dark, while the overexposed building in the background is still... well, over-exposed. And the ghosting isn't really eerie - it's just distracting. Depending on what software you use for putting together an HDR image, you should have an option to remove ghosting altogether.

Big Ron: #424 - you gave us an excellent example of how HDR brings light and detail into shadowed areas. Here's an example of how HDR can do that while also toning down overexposed areas:


All: Keep up the good work; I hope you all took my comments as constructive and encouraging! :)
 
Excellent example (referring to the Challenger) of how HDR can really bring more life to a photo sixtoes!
 
I've had a few more trys at HDR. Must say I'm enjoying this so much as a hobby now that I have found time for it.👍 It takes me a while to do but i have fun doing it. I can only upload 1 image for now, ill post more up tomorow or later on tonight. Cheers for the constructive criticism sixtoes.:)
NOW I'm going to go on gt5 do a few races and spend a couple of hours in photomode. ;)


 
sixtoes deserves a price (or maybe a cake?) now! After bringing us that awesome tutorial a few days ago and then comment on every picture in this thread.....GREAT!
 
It's been a while. Stunning shots here! 👍
Here's an attempt at realistic HDR. Looks pretty subtle at a first glance but in fact drastically changes how the scene looks.
Check out my previous post on page 14.

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maccyski: And I'll be looking forward to seeing what you can do!

why_spyder: Thanks - that Challenger shot is one of my all-time favorites. :)

gt5 brad gt5: I'm glad the constructive criticism was useful, Brad. And I like most everything about the new image you posted except the sky - but if you're going for a more "painterly" look, then mission accomplished. :) (By the way, tip for doing HDRs at the Red Bull Hangar: make sure that, for each exposure, the shifting lights are the same color - red, blue, or green. If you mix colors in your exposures, you can get weird color shifts.)

bmxmitch: I don't know about a prize, but I've never been known to turn down a slice of cake! :D Of course, I can't take credit for commenting on every picture in the thread - just the ones over the last couple of weeks. And it might be another couple of weeks before I have the time to do it again, but I'll try! Your shots in #432 are not bad compositions, but are they HDR? Just trying to get a handle on what you've done with the processing.

WrxScooby: Nice and subtle; maybe a bit too subtle (not much of the near side, grille or wheels are visible), but I still like it. (On another note, someone named WrxScooby should be taking pictures of Subarus, not Mitsus!! :yuck: :lol:)

MetalBeerSolid: As the beginning of my post mentioned, I only went back to Feb. 12 - your post #329 was back on Jan. 30. If I'd gone back that far, I'd still be writing my comments! :crazy: But, since you asked... the first two (with the Amuses) aren't bad (I like the composition of the second one), but the saturation's a touch too high for my taste. The three F40 shots on SSR 7 are very nice, but only the second one looks like it took advantage of what you can do with HDR; the first and third look pretty close to regular exposures. The F40 on Ahrweiler Street looks very nice, though - you might want to play with the car settings in Photo Travel, though.. you know, turn the front wheels, turn the headlights on. :) 8C at Eiger looks mostly good - but something chunky happened to the sky in the upper-right. The green hue in the shot of the Lambos is a bit odd; that would keep me from posting it, if it were my shot. The Audis make an interesting shot - but were the lights that blue? You might want to make an adjustment to color temperature to bring them back to white. The Italia (front facing) looks like the focal point was a bit off - the grill and headlights are soft. The 3/4 rear view looks good, though; both are subtle. Here's an Italia I shot at the same location - maybe it'll give you a little inspiration! The SLS has nice reflections, but is a bit dark - maybe it's just because the color isn't as crisp as on the F40. Keep it up!

juhaniman: You're right, it definitely changes the way you see a scene. I like the rally shots except for the last one, as the car's out of focus - I know (or presume) that's intentional, but the ones that are sharp look better. 👍
 
Hi again guys. I'm gona say i've had even more fun creating these images below.
Again thanks for the constructive criticism sixtoes and thanks for the red bull hangar tip. :) I have got more images to post up tomorrow but here's some more. 👍
Note: Not sure why the background trees in the first image, some of them are wavy. Maybe its something I've done and not realised.



 
the car's out of focus - I know (or presume) that's intentional

Yeah, it's intentional. I know it doesn't look quite right (at least in low res), though... I forgot to play around with the shutter speed and panning type for the last shot.
 
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FiRo: #377 - is it my imagination, or does orange tend to be one of the better colors for HDR processing? Anyway, very nice tonemapping. Composition's a little too center for my taste, but the colors are well-done.

Thank-you very much for your comment sixtoes. 👍

Originally the car in the image was smaller, and little bit on the left.
but after I had done my tonemapping I found the pic was sth strange.
so I rotated it 3 degrees clockwise in photoshop to correct it.
(can't rotate more as this would crop too much)
I think the tree in the background should be upright straight.
then the car would be pointing downwards more.
I will pay more attention to the horizontal level in the future.
 
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MetalBeerSolid: As the beginning of my post mentioned, I only went back to Feb. 12 - your post #329 was back on Jan. 30. If I'd gone back that far, I'd still be writing my comments! :crazy: But, since you asked... the first two (with the Amuses) aren't bad (I like the composition of the second one), but the saturation's a touch too high for my taste. The three F40 shots on SSR 7 are very nice, but only the second one looks like it took advantage of what you can do with HDR; the first and third look pretty close to regular exposures. The F40 on Ahrweiler Street looks very nice, though - you might want to play with the car settings in Photo Travel, though.. you know, turn the front wheels, turn the headlights on. :) 8C at Eiger looks mostly good - but something chunky happened to the sky in the upper-right. The green hue in the shot of the Lambos is a bit odd; that would keep me from posting it, if it were my shot. The Audis make an interesting shot - but were the lights that blue? You might want to make an adjustment to color temperature to bring them back to white. The Italia (front facing) looks like the focal point was a bit off - the grill and headlights are soft. The 3/4 rear view looks good, though; both are subtle. Here's an Italia I shot at the same location - maybe it'll give you a little inspiration! The SLS has nice reflections, but is a bit dark - maybe it's just because the color isn't as crisp as on the F40. Keep it up!
Thanks for the advice! 👍
 
This is my first 'proper' attempt. I made the HDR image in Photomatrix and added a vignette and sharpening mask in Photoshop.

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Although the window reflections didn't turn out that well and parts of the car look over exposed still (I think it happens to work well in this image's case anyway), I think it turned out rather well in the end. I'll definitely be making more photos to improve my skill at making HDR shots.

Also, I think this is the first MX-5 in this thread :dopey:
 
Sl1mS4di3: #407 - just brilliant! That first shot, the sky is perfect and the car is tack-sharp, and the detail shots (especially the fourth one) are very well-done! 👍

Wow sixtoes thanks for the comment, not just mine but every ones. Also thanks for the HDR tutorial you did I learnt a little bit extra from that. 👍

Also s12ken I have never seen HDR panos like yours, it's eye candy. :drool:
 
A few from the last two nights - some were shot earlier but finally got around to some photoshopping work last night/early this morning.

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(just for kicks - I didn't actually keep this S2000, lol)
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(focus is on the grass intentionally)
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After looking over the S2000 photo again, I think I should have added a bit of warmth to the picture bring out the natural coloration of the bricks a bit more... :/
 
dice1998: #422 - I loved your other shot... this one not so much. The dark areas of the Jag are still too dark, while the overexposed building in the background is still... well, over-exposed. And the ghosting isn't really eerie - it's just distracting. Depending on what software you use for putting together an HDR image, you should have an option to remove ghosting altogether.

Thanks sixtoes, your feedback means alot to me, i used Photoshop CS4 for that Jag picture because, well, the free version of the software you reccommended (Photomatix) adds a HUGE watermark on the completed HDR Generation, so i'm still looking for a good freeware HDR Generation program. I think I've found one, but i'm not sure, still experimenting with it

Hopefully I redeem myself with this:
Naturally, they're thumbnails, click on them for a bigger size.

Original, Unedited picture straight from GT5


HDR


HDR Plus some photoshopping


Yeah, as i mentioned to SlipZtrEm, I've sort've gone noise crazy :lol:

I feel that i made the red too vibrant, but i don't know, and it does look somewhat too bright to me... what do you guys think?

Feedback is appreciated!
 
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I definitely like the first picture the best, there's more variations of shadow-play and dark/light contrast ratio. In the 2nd and 3rd picture, I see no shadows on the car itself, so it makes it a bit unrealistic. At least in my eyes
 
maccyski

bmxmitch: I don't know about a prize, but I've never been known to turn down a slice of cake! :D Of course, I can't take credit for commenting on every picture in the thread - just the ones over the last couple of weeks. And it might be another couple of weeks before I have the time to do it again, but I'll try! Your shots in #432 are not bad compositions, but are they HDR? Just trying to get a handle on what you've done with the processing.


Well, with that much time you put in to help us rookies out, you defenitly deserve a price! 👍

And my shots....yeah, they are not really HDR!
There is an option in PS called HDR Toning. Its like a fake HDR or something.
Sometimes the pics come out quit good, sometimes not.
I just played around with it a bit.
I dont know how to do great HDRs with PS. I may will get some programm you used in your tutorial.....
But thanks so far sixtoes :)

here´s another try with PS:indiff:



 
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