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SRV2LOW4ME
Did your Civic come with drums in the rear or did Honda actually stick a set of disc's in the rear? If they're drums, I'm going to assume that changing those out would make a good starting point on the brakes, unless you're going even crazier in which case you peaked my interest even more. And yes, it was very vague but it'll do for now. :lol:



Anyone here running a set of ground wires on their car, or know anyone that is?
I've read/heard they're a very good investment and throttle response, idle and shifts are actually improved, but I'm sort of researching them more before I make my purchase.
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I run a self-made set of ground wires, and it does provide stronger starting power, but that is about it. I would recommend it, since it's typically a cheap upgrade that allows you to spend time under the hood. ;) I love working on cars.

Unfortunately, the Civic came with drums in the rear, but I do have discs for replacement. But, that is far from all. ;) Consider your interest peaked, because when I'm done with this car, it'll be less Civic than anything else, when it comes to parts (not looks). ;)
 
toyomatt84
I run a self-made set of ground wires, and it does provide stronger starting power, but that is about it. I would recommend it, since it's typically a cheap upgrade that allows you to spend time under the hood. ;) I love working on cars.

Unfortunately, the Civic came with drums in the rear, but I do have discs for replacement. But, that is far from all. ;) Consider your interest peaked, because when I'm done with this car, it'll be less Civic than anything else, when it comes to parts (not looks). ;)
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Dammit you, when you told me you were building the car to be fun to drive, I was expecting very subtle upgrades. I didn't think you'd push the idea of "fun" to this level.


Awesome, you are 👍

Makes me feel so inadequate though, with my stock suspension, brakes, interior, and engine. Even a stock b16 would make me have some feeling of accomplishment.


1 question though, that I never really thought about. Up until your swap, did you drive around with a stock sohc 1.7 engine?


EDIT: Also, how did you make your ground wires? If it's a fairly easy DIY thing, I wanna make some.
 
Perfect Balance
Dammit you, when you told me you were building the car to be fun to drive, I was expecting very subtle upgrades. I didn't think you'd push the idea of "fun" to this level.


Awesome, you are 👍

Makes me feel so inadequate though, with my stock suspension, brakes, interior, and engine. Even a stock b16 would make me have some feeling of accomplishment.


1 question though, that I never really thought about. Up until your swap, did you drive around with a stock sohc 1.7 engine?


EDIT: Also, how did you make your ground wires? If it's a fairly easy DIY thing, I wanna make some.
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Yeah, I rocked the D17A2 stock for just a little over a year, when saving for the K. ;)

And, to make the ground wires is easy. Just get a decent battery terminal, some length of 10ga or lower wire, some proper sized heat shrink, and some nice 10ga or lower terminals. Then, just start crimping and heat shrinking, and you're set.
 
Keef
Electrical ground wires? Shifts are purely mechanical, so that's ridiculous. And we, like, already have ground wires. It's right there. Like....there, right in front of my engine. And I really don't care how my car idles, as long as it doesn't stall. I want to go, not sit at stop lights.
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Well better grounds would mean the engine would work less hard runnin gthe alternator meaning you would lose less rpm while the clutch is in when shifting, meaning your rpm will be closer when you let the clutch out = smoother shift?

Its a possibility :)
 
~Sp33~
Well better grounds would mean the engine would work less hard runnin gthe alternator meaning you would lose less rpm while the clutch is in when shifting, meaning your rpm will be closer when you let the clutch out = smoother shift?

Its a possibility :)
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Sounds like a Doctor's explanation to how an ingrown toenail could cause you heart failure. :P
 
toyomatt84
I run a self-made set of ground wires, and it does provide stronger starting power, but that is about it. I would recommend it, since it's typically a cheap upgrade that allows you to spend time under the hood. ;) I love working on cars.

Unfortunately, the Civic came with drums in the rear, but I do have discs for replacement. But, that is far from all. ;) Consider your interest peaked, because when I'm done with this car, it'll be less Civic than anything else, when it comes to parts (not looks). ;)
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Well I plan on running a 5 or 7 wire set up, most likely in 4 or 6 guage wire, which means I can build it for well under $100 CAN (money well spent in my books if its worth it). Thanks for the feedback though, I might be posting some pics with it installed shortly. 👍

I'll be staying tuned to hear more about these mods. I think I have an idea of where you're going with it, but I'll just wait a little further before I start guessing, if its anything like what I'm picturing it, it sounds like one hell of a project.
 
SRV2LOW4ME
Well I plan on running a 5 or 7 wire set up, most likely in 4 or 6 guage wire, which means I can build it for well under $100 CAN (money well spent in my books if its worth it). Thanks for the feedback though, I might be posting some pics with it installed shortly. 👍

I'll be staying tuned to hear more about these mods. I think I have an idea of where you're going with it, but I'll just wait a little further before I start guessing, if its anything like what I'm picturing it, it sounds like one hell of a project.
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It's definitely a project. There's no denying that. ;)
 
Well, I went to Home depot today, bought myself 8 feet of some really thick copper wire, and so far I've replaced my existing grounds with new wire, along with sanding down the places for better contact. I will do more when I find out where the wires would go in an aftermarket kit, but I've already noticed brighter headlights and dash lights, along with a little better response. It seems like a huge difference, but my original grounds were rusted and the copper was oxidized.
 
Check out sites that sell ground kits and hopefully they have some online instructions for them aswell (ie. Stillen.com has them for most cars). You don't even have to replace the wires if you don't want too or are unable too, just simply run a new ground from the items to the stock grounding location. Glad to see its making a difference for you, hopefully this weekend I can get around to making my own. 👍
 
SRV2LOW4ME
Check out sites that sell ground kits and hopefully they have some online instructions for them aswell (ie. Stillen.com has them for most cars). You don't even have to replace the wires if you don't want too or are unable too, just simply run a new ground from the items to the stock grounding location. Glad to see its making a difference for you, hopefully this weekend I can get around to making my own. 👍
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I didn't want to have loads of ground wires all over the place, and I figured the stock ones are in fairly good locations, so I just reused them with better wire. I'll be adding some of my own in the next few days.

EDIT: Apparently if you have a sound system, it will be boosted tremendously.
 
Hondas rule. Thats all that needs to be said.

I just removed this from my car. It sat right after the intake arm just before the TB.

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Pupik
Woot! Chex mix. Freakin' addictive.

Oh, and I drove a new Accord today. At 20 mph. For 90 seconds.
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Chex mix and AriZona sweet tea on my breaks are the only things that get me threw at work...

also I'd have done 90mph for 20 seconds. It would have been much more enjoyable. :sly: 👍
 
Time_Attack
so your car only weighs what 3 metric tons after that?
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Close, and it went 3 metric miles an hour faster than any EF Civic. :sly:

*I know that doesn't make sense, but it doesn't have too since we're talking about Preludes.
 
So, what items are grounded on the stock car? Obviously the one from the engine to the radiator support, but what else? I figure there's one on the starter, but the alternator and all that are hooked to the engine and electricity would flow over the block. Right? No? I don't know.

Where would you add wires besides the stock locations? Any strategic locations?
 
Keef
So, what items are grounded on the stock car? Obviously the one from the engine to the radiator support, but what else? I figure there's one on the starter, but the alternator and all that are hooked to the engine and electricity would flow over the block. Right? No? I don't know.

Where would you add wires besides the stock locations? Any strategic locations?
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I added a ground to the alternator also, but I'm out of connectors now. I like how they put 3 in a box so you have to buy 2.

Next I'm gonna connect one from the valve cover to the radiator support, and one from the intake manifold to the firewall.
 
Perfect Balance
I added a ground to the alternator also, but I'm out of connectors now. I like how they put 3 in a box so you have to buy 2.

Next I'm gonna connect one from the valve cover to the radiator support, and one from the intake manifold to the firewall.
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Overkill. 3 leads is more than enough for an engine. One on the timing chain/belt cover to the chassis, one from the transmission to the chassis, and one from the Battery to the chassis. You can add one or two from the battery to ground, but if the initial wire is of decent gauge, there won't be really any benefit to doing so.
 
toyomatt84
Overkill. 3 leads is more than enough for an engine. One on the timing chain/belt cover to the chassis, one from the transmission to the chassis, and one from the Battery to the chassis. You can add one or two from the battery to ground, but if the initial wire is of decent gauge, there won't be really any benefit to doing so.
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I only added 1 that wasn't there before, and it's already overkill?



EDIT:Grounding kits for my car come with like 6 wires.
 
Perfect Balance
I only added 1 that wasn't there before, and it's already overkill?



EDIT:Grounding kits for my car come with like 6 wires.
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What you were proposing was overkill. You don't need to add that many wires, to get the desired effect. Oh, and just because they sell kits with 6-leads, doesn't make it the "ideal" number. ;)
 
toyomatt84
What you were proposing was overkill. You don't need to add that many wires, to get the desired effect. Oh, and just because they sell kits with 6-leads, doesn't make it the "ideal" number. ;)
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Well, I didn't really think they would add much more after the 3 I added, but I figured more wouldn't hurt.
 
I think we need to all take math class again. :lol:

You can get grounding kits that come with 9-11 wires, but even they say thats overkill for most people. I think a 5 or 6 wire is more than enough for the average car on the street, and to be honest, most people here don't even need that. All up to you how you want to do it though as its your money and time being used to do it.
 
Clutch + flywheel = done.

I hate it. I have to learn how to drive my car all over again. It took me a year to get that badass!
 

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