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Racing is racing do what ever it takes to win(as clean as possible) things will happen that you can not control, that it just racing. How is everyone doing, been gone for awhile.
 
mira_alex
Racing is racing do what ever it takes to win(as clean as possible) things will happen that you can not control, that it just racing. How is everyone doing, been gone for awhile.
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I disagree; rules are rules. If drivers choose to act outside of the rules then they should face the predetermined consequences. That is the point of the bump-pass discussion we are having.

Btw, did the the Porsche driver receive a penalty for what happened in the above video?
 
He was suspended from the next race, iirc. But I'm not sure.
 
Nastradamus87
I disagree; rules are rules. If drivers choose to act outside of the rules then they should face the predetermined consequences. That is the point of the bump-pass discussion we are having.

Btw, did the the Porsche driver receive a penalty for what happened in the above video?
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MÜLE_9242;5275799
He was suspended from the next race, iirc. But I'm not sure.
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Both Magnussen and Bergmeister were put on probation(had to drive clean the next race)( meaning if they had contact with any other drivers at sebring 2011 (a 12 hour race)(talk about unlucky lol) they would get suspended for 1 race


This happened at the end of the 2009 season. probation carried over into 2010 sebing 12 hours

This is what can go wrong. The race earlier Enge was put on probation. At this race he got suspended. With probation It didnt matter who did the contacting . if he was involved he would be suspended. skip to 30secs
 
Nastradamus87
I disagree; rules are rules. If drivers choose to act outside of the rules then they should face the predetermined consequences. That is the point of the bump-pass discussion we are having.

Btw, did the the Porsche driver receive a penalty for what happened in the above video?
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Well yes rules are rules, and you will have to follow them, what I mean is do what ever it takes to win or get the next position by never breaking the rules.👍
 
mira_alex
Racing is racing do what ever it takes to win(as clean as possible)
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As clean as possible is a very gray area. I try and drive in a way that only 1 out of a 1000 times will I ever take someone out. Some people drive in a way that this will happen at more of a 1 in 100 or 1 in 50 or maybe worse ratio.

mira_alex
things will happen that you can not control
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This is true.. But is it out of your control, if you are going for contact, and push someone too hard. I understand that you can never fully predict what the car in front of you is going to do. So is it not the followers fault if the lead driver does something unpredictable, and the following driver knocks them off the course. If the following driver wasn't trying to tap the driver in the beginning this probably never would have occurred.

My concern, is that I have seen multiple footage of a driver jamming it late into a turn, hoping for the best. This to me is completely reckless. Just about anything that involves the following driver to guess, and enter at a speed that can cause contact, and push the lead driver off their line, as reckless. It is an unfortunate situation, because it is the lead driver that almost always gets punished for the following driver's "hoping for the best" attitude.

If it was my choice, I would punish anyone that purposely bump-passes. But I think just by discussing this, it is interesting to see the responses... and those that chose not to respond.

I think the main thing to remember here is that we are running a full series together. We will probably race with each other again in other series as well. This is not a few races here and there. This is definitely not a public lobby. I just think if you give the driver's around you respect for their race, you will get the same in return. Also, those around you, will want to race with you more frequently.

Admittedly, I always lean toward the clean side. Maybe too much. I would gladly take a 3rd place as opposed to possibly taking out the 1st and 2nd place racers.

I am sure all of us will take someone out accidentally at some point. We are all human. My point is that these accidents occur much more frequently around certain people. These frequently are the same people that think bump-passing is an ok thing to do.
 
I might start a thread entitled 'While PSN has been down what else have you been doing?'

But I won't

How long is this PSN b*lloc*s going on for then. I'm getting thoroughly cheesed off by it all.
 
If PSN is still down and we have to push the race back another week, I'm just gonna go ahead and cancel the race at Deep Forest.

I hope I don't have to, but you never know.
 
Seeing as I won't be able to make most of the races now cuz of the delay, I don't care all that much, but I wanna do this endurance race.
 
PSN is not going to be online this weekend. This is unfortunate because I was really looking forward to these races.

Also this is some news you guys might have missed:

"Sony has admitted that an additional 25 million user accounts have been breached by hackers, and that these—belonging to users of the Sony Online Entertainment network— were actually attacked before the 77 million accounts on Sony's PlayStation Network. Services on the network include the multiplayer game Everquest. And data stolen from the accounts includes at least 12,000 credit-card numbers for non-U.S. customers."

http://news.consumerreports.org/ele...re-accounts-hacked-but-were-really-sorry.html
 
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brandofo
PSN is not going to be online this weekend. This is unfortunate because I was really looking forward to these races.

Also this is some news you guys might have missed:

"Sony has admitted that an additional 25 million user accounts have been breached by hackers, and that these--belonging to users of the Sony Online Entertainment network-- were actually attacked before the 77 million accounts on Sony's PlayStation Network. Services on the network include the multiplayer game Everquest. And data stolen from the accounts includes at least 12,000 credit-card numbers for non-U.S. customers."

http://news.consumerreports.org/electronics/2011/05/sony-25-million-more-accounts-hacked-but-were-really-sorry.html
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What a bunch of b*stards.
 
Okay, it's official. Race pushed back another week. Deep forest race canceled.
 
That date was for ALL services - such as HOME, Psn store, and whatnot. It is likely that we will be able to login and play online before the
31st.
 
Nastradamus87
That date was for ALL services - such as HOME, Psn store, and whatnot. It is likely that we will be able to login and play online before the
31st.
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If that is the case, can you guys wait to have the endurance race until June for when I get back from Europe. I don't care if you do other races, but I really wanna do an endurance race online!
 
BlackIce90
If that is the case, can you guys wait to have the endurance race until June for when I get back from Europe. I don't care if you do other races, but I really wanna do an endurance race online!
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Are you off to silverstone? Or is that just RT?
 
BlackIce90
Lol, I wish, it's just RT, I'm going to see family.
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Come to Cambridge, I'll give you a race!
Uk regional finalists have been decided, apparently one is a pro drift driver which has upset a few people. Not really in the spirit of the rules!
 
Well, I've been thinking, and since this is somewhat of a sister-series to the Miatas, I may as well go ahead and delay this as well, to keep in line with them.

Unless of course you guys don't want me to. But I'm really not a fan of this constant guessing game every weekend.
 
What ever you do man, I would be ok with. I just want to race. ha
 
Microsoft is probably "jizzing" in their pants with all the money thats poring into their pockets because of this outage. I would prefer if they just let us login and play online! I never use the PS Store so I could care less, online gaming is where the attention needs to be put right now. Why can't Sony get it in gear?
 
So I got to thinking, and another possibility for something we can do when this series is over, is something based on the Grand-Am Continental Tire series. We could have two classes, Grand Sport, and Street Tuner. It might be a bit more complicated than another spec series, but it could be fun. We have a lot of Premium options in terms of cars to use, as well:

GS:

BMW M3
BMW Z4M
Chevy Camaro
Dodge Challenger
Ford Mustang
Nissan 350Z / 370Z
Subaru WRX STi

ST:

Audi TT
BMW Z4 Roadster
Honda Civic Si
Mazda Miata
Mazda RX-8
VW Golf GTi

Could probably throw in a couple more for each, as well.
 
PSN is coming back online as I type this for those who haven't heard. Time for me to get some online practice in on La Sarthe!
 
Well then...

Race next weekend?

or do we wait until June?
 
Please wait till june, I am leaving for Europe in 12 hours and wont be back till the 30th. I really wanna do the Le Sarthe race, please delay it until june like the Miata series!
 
I could wait until June if we do practice races until then. We could race at deep forest one week and another track the next week (laguna seca?). We could also do some testing for the next series.
 
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Nastradamus87
I could wait until June if we do practice races until then. We could race at deep forest one week and another track the next week (laguna seca?). We could also do some testing for the next series.
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This definitely :) As it is online physics feels weird now :p
 
Okay then. June it is.

For onw, I'll get a practice room up.
 
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Practice room at La Sarthe
 
I can't make it on tonight. Mule, what do you expect we'll do for the practice races? (I don't want to spend time practicing La Sarthe on my own if we aren't going to be racing it until June.)
 
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