Originally posted by Fenrir51
Im pretty sure the us has hp laws, anything over 425 or something around that was considered not street legal.
Originally posted by slvr2000fdvspec
so if you're driving a viper..you're just asking cops to pull you over? cause you're at 500 hps and you're not street legal? if that's true..that's a stupid law..
but here in cali..i dont think there's a max hps..cause my friend has a 94 supra..single turbo conversion..and all that crap to the engine(dont feel like asking him, but it's all the obvious stuff, intercooler, wastegates, bov, intake, header, etc.) and he dynoed his car and it hit 689 hps to the rear wheels..forgot the torque..but it's at like 620 or something..and it's still street legal..
Originally posted by ShobThaBob
Part of your state inspection is not a dyno (although, it would be nice, and quite informative).
Originally posted by Tofu4G63
As far as I know there arent any HP laws as long as cars can pass the emissions testing in their state. We in Colorado are subjected to the same standards as they are in California. Our cars are put on a chassis type dyno that puts the vehicle under a certain load depending on the vehicles factory specifications. The determining factors of how much a vehicle can emit are weight, displacement of motor, and etc.
I guarantee that you could make a vehicle such as a Supra put down over 650hp to the wheels and still pass emissions like it were factory. How so? This vehicle being turbo charged, especially helped by the single turbo conversion, would most likely never hit boost while being tested. When this vehicle is not on boost it creates very low emissions. Visual inspections consists of having a catalytic converter, they do not even have to know if there is still a catalyst inside, just the visual. I have seen a CRX with a turbocharged Type R motor roll up to the place and given just a tiny hassle about the motor. All he had to do was talk to them for a minute and once she told them that it was still a Honda motor, they put it on the rollers. She passed without any problems.
As was pointed out by someone in a different state where they tell your average HP needed to complete the test, his was 10hp.
Cars are not redlined by any means during these tests. They are driven as if they were being taken on an average drive. The test is called the IM240. 240 being the 240 second span that they are put under load, IM i have no clue what it stands for anymore.
Originally posted by Tofu4G63
Down pipes come on cars stock so i dont think that they can say no no to stock parts. Most fuel controllers that i know of are very very discreet and they would never have to know that they were there. Cats as i said before only have to appeart to be there.... How are they to verify that you have a catalyst in them if your car passes without them? How do you figure he'd hit boost in a single turbo supra? They drive extremely sanely and never hit WOT. They have a drive pattern that they must follow very specifially or the test automatically starts over. And maybe our inspectors are alittle more lax on the K&N filters and such but im pretty sure that our state has the exact same laws as CA.
How do you figure he'd hit boost in a single turbo supra?
it's better to put the stockers on than have a high flow/gutted cat I know i would! because the majority of the time you will fail the sniffer i know because i troll on supraforums. but hey if the high flow cat passes 👍Cats as i said before only have to appeart to be there.... How are they to verify that you have a catalyst in them if your car passes without them?
It was actually a requirement for entering the GT300 class of the JGTC, but since most manufacturers now compete in the GT500 class, it's kinda pointless. Which is why most manufacturers have rumours pointing to 400-500hp cars to be released in the next few years.Originally posted by Fugiot
Having a 276hp limit in Japan isn't a law. The Japanese motor vehicle department gives a general suggestion to all car manufacturers and, to be taken seriously, the manufacturers generally go by the 276 "suggestion". The Nissan Skyline, for example, is rated at 276hp but as many of you know, it dynos with nearly that much hp going to the wheels. That means that the crank HP is more like 310hp. The law isn't enforced but most manufacturers use it as a general guideline to keep the company's reputation up.