How Did Polyphony Digital Pull Off The Rain Effects....

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by anthonyfa18, Aug 29, 2019.

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Has Polyphony Digital Maxed out the PS4??

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  2. NO

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  3. Not Sure

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  1. anthonyfa18

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    Like i and some other members in this forum love the new visuals effects of the new rain update, i really thank Polyphony Digital for all the hard work they have put in Gt sport and keep adding free stuff every month, Let try to talk about it post photo and video, a look at how stander ps4 runs compared the the extra power of the Ps4 Pro??

    here are some quote i found to keep on topic.

    and here is some video i found that show some good visuals




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  2. SDSPOWER01

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    One thing I can understand though that these visuals and particle effect are pretty subpar when you compare it to the old 2014 game driveclub, I understand this has to do with the advantage of 30 FPS vs 60 FPS.

    But I dont think they have maxed out their capability because otherwise you would see some pretty massive dips in Framerate.

    I would say though they did an incredible job mantaining the FPS consistent while having both droplets and particle effects spray in the track.
    Not to mention the reflections from the wet track.
     
  3. Fabr_123

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    Answering the poll, I don't think so. The rain is looking good, but I still believe they will further improve the visuals in the next updates.
     
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  4. RaistlinMP44

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    I believe that you never can tell for sure whether the PS4 is maxed out or not. So I’ll vote “no” to this.

    The thing is that the implementation of a new feature on a full scale (rain ) in order to maintain the 60 FPS and keep everything else intact ( believe me there are a LOT) using the limited cpu that the PS4 has, is tricky and PD have to sacrifice some other details. Driveclub’s creators sacrificed the framerate and the simulation engines in order to deliver outstanding weather conditions. My opinion is that you cannot compare these two games at all. As for me, I love them both.

    PD will tweek and refine the Gt sport’s engine until the next title launches. I am very happy and I congratulate their efforts! So yeah I will not be surprised if in a future update the rain particles are increased and the physics is improved!

    Unfortunately, Evolution studios cannot do that for the driveclub because they stopped supporting the game by the time Sony shut them down.
     
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  5. Ofuscor

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    During replays they pull amazing visuals thanks to the black bars. They are effectively rendering only 2/3 of the screen. Photo mode when rendering a shot also enhances things.
     
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  6. anthonyfa18

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    i would love to see Digital Foundry do a tech video on rain in Gt sport

     
  7. MIE1992

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    I’d just call that a different kind of “maxing out.” Sort of like how the original PS2 release of Shadow of the Colossus was visually amazing, and was a zenith for the PS2’s rendering abilities, but oh man, those framerate drops would sometimes make the game feel like a slideshow.
     
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    Can you add a "don't know" option? :)
     
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    Thank you Anthonyfa18!
     
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  10. doblocruiser

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    I am just amazed by how good and real it looks in the rain. Other games do a pretty good job with rain. PCARS2 and the excellent DRIVECLUB. Now DRIVECLUB has in my opinion better reflections but it is 30 FPS and has only 12 cars on track. GT Sport however with 20 cars, the spray, the realistic look, it simply blows me away everytime I fire it up. In terms of eye candy I can't complain except for some background objects but hey that isn't really a problem is it.

    A fantastic looking title :tup: Did PD maxed out PS4? I don't know!
     
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    I'll bit the bullet here and I say you are right.


    Its great but could've been better. I expected GT5 like rain spray but with higher quality texture + spray at car body.
     
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    I definately agree the particle effects back in GT5 was some of the most satisfying thing I could ever see rivaling even Driveclubs physics based water droplets, but it is definately clear in the quality of the game (considering one was a ps3 50-60 FPS and the other ps4 at a locked 30 fps).

    In todays racing games: Gran Turismo (Sport), Asseto Corsa Competizione, Project Cars (2), Dirt Rally (2) and Forza Motorsports I can say neither matches Driveclubs amazing weather conditions display in quality (given that they all aim for 60 FPS).

    Mainly refering in cockpit view:

    ACC: does an amazing job but there is something that doesnt make it look like its water dropping instead a very thick gue the faster you go.

    Project Cars (2): I cant help but feel that its a simplified pattern on and off that doesnt get affected too much by speed.

    Dirt Rally (2): water droplets looks to big and unrealistic at times.

    GT Sport: It defintaley looks much more fluid like and better then GT6 but there seems to be no water lines on the windshield (ala GT5) just a halo like effect.

    Forza motosports: Water drops are looking too small and doesnt seem to much affected by speed.

    These are just my subjective view btw and sorry for going slightly off topic..
     
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    I wasn't going to bother downloading 1.43, but you guys have got me curious to see the rain effects for myself...
     
  15. anthonyfa18

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    i wounder what track will get it next,

     
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  16. VBR

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    I checked the rain effects out, & found them to be underwhelming. Only thing I really liked was the correct headlight reflections.
     
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    Not a patch on Driveclub
     
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  18. anthonyfa18

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    a look how we have come, Evolution of Rain Effects in Gran Turismo

     
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  19. doblocruiser

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    GT3 in the rain still is pretty impressive. I remember needing to run that red viper on there. Was a fixed setting as well but looked good and still holds up pretty nicely.
     
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    Looking back, the wet weather effects are a bit exaggerated in earlier games. While not perfect, the conditions in GTS seem more realistic in both their appearance and behavior.
     
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    Gran Turismo Sport vs Project Cars 2, Redbull, weather rain, dusk.



    Gran Turismo Sport vs Project Cars 2, Redbull, weather rain, daytime.
     
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    I think that the rain has no effect on anything other than the cars not driven by AI .Try pushing other cars around on RBR they are on the same rail they have always been on,the only way to move them is to nail them straight from the rear, but if they touch your car your car goes like it's on ice. No I don't drive like that but did test it out in campaign mode. So I don't think they did a good job. Online might be a different story. Drive up beside any AI car and watch if they go off track they never lose grip at all they will touch your car and away you will go.
     
  23. Kevstah2004

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    I’d lower the trackside people count in any game for better tree textures.
    I’d even take a 720p mode hit to run a full Nascar grid.
     
  24. RaistlinMP44

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    I would like to see rain on the dirt tracks of gt sport
     
  25. anthonyfa18

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    I think we would get snow before
     
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    I tried drifting in the rain and I thought it looked so real.
     
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  27. MrWaflz55

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    This really reminds me of how much I hate that weird smoke/cloud effect that rain has in PC2. I don’t know why it comes down like that and makes it look like there’s smoking coming down from the clouds but it’s very odd.

    Also a bit of a nitpick but I really wish people would do a custom race with a proper 20th position grid start instead of just doing a quick race. Makes the field look much less spread out in the replay comparisons.
     
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    They would basically become mud tracks under that condition, probably.
     
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  29. Lord Protector

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    Pcars 2 looks absolutely terrible when compared to GTS. Especially in replays.
     
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  30. anthonyfa18

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    A post I did on launch day of 1.43 update, too keep with the topic....


    you cant say that, drive club runs at 30 fps and gt sport runs at 60fps, and also if you look at the detail that pd has put into the fans and track stwarts that all have rain suits and jackets it impressive, i have yet to play beause i am at work but so far from videos i saw i tip my hat to pd and pulling out all the power of the ps4 and ps4 pro. cant wait to see it in 4k and hdr



    also look at this photo i found
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