How well is GT4 selling?

[FoolKiller]

Actually it was only $19.99 new, which is why i bought it, and it's probably the best game of any genre you can buy for twenty bucks brand new. and yeah, because it was so good, ea knew they wouldnt have sold anywhere near as much of madden 06 if sega came out with nfl 2k6.

You're right. I forgot. I did enjoy it more than Madden and was quite furious when EA bought up the license.

but back on topic...gran turismo 4 should be less than 50 dollars now. i'm almost positive im gonna have to buy another copy.

I checked Gamefly without logging in last night and it is $24.99 pre played for anyone but members don't have to pay shipping. I don't know what they charge in shipping but it has to be cheaper than $10. That looks like the best bet for a copy of GT4, especially when you consider they have a 100% guarantee that it will work.

 

[Small_Fryz]

I agree with you Smallhorses.

The same can be said for the GTA series of games.

GTA and GT1,2,3,4 have to be the best series on PS2 they are always selling and its never hard to find them in shops.

GT4 will continue to steadly sell at a nice pace until gt5 comes out.

 

[toke81]

sorry, but in my opinion, soccer (football) sucks. and don't think i'm the typical american who gets bored with everything. i watch baseball religiously! ive watched almost every marlins game, either in person or on tv, this season. so it's not a question of boredom. it's also not a question of low scoring. baseball is low scoring as well as hockey, which i love too (and am ridiculously happy is coming back). i've been to a couple of mls games for the miami fusion over the years and it wasn't boring...i dont know if this makes sense, but it wasnt interesting either. hockeys the closest thing to soccer that i enjoy, the same concepts apply. run(skate) around for 90 (60) minutes and try to put a ball (puck) in the net. but hockey has action, you see a big hit about three times a period. and fighting doesn't get a you a red card, you just sit out for five minutes and come right back in. i'm pretty certain that the majority of america thinks soccer is too boring, but i'm not one of those people. i just think that it's too hard to get excited about a sport where people run around a huge field with barely anyone ever having control of the ball and the looming uncertainty of a point even being scored. at least let the players knock the sh:censored:t out of each other. sorry for the rant, but soccer blows.

 

[zPhoenix]

i bought three copies so far of gt 4. ...i just wish target would exchange for destroyed discs.

Check Costco's return policies... they are usually quite good and their prices aren't bad either. I am not sure if their usual return policy also applies to PS/2 games but I would not be surprised.

 

[Smallhorses]

i just think that it's too hard to get excited about a sport where people run around a huge field with barely anyone ever having control of the ball and the looming uncertainty of a point even being scored. at least let the players knock the sh:censored:t out of each other.

That's a sad reflection of America in general. Don't get me wrong, I love your country, that's why I chose to live here, but the fact that you idolise sports in which violent conduct is seen as a positive aspect isn't a good thing in my view.
Hell, at least in a soccer match each one of those 11 players has a fair chance of touching the ball, aren't there about 80 players on an American Football team who aren't ever supposed to get near the ball, just knock other players over?
Proposing introducing more violence into sport isn't good, what do you fancy next? How about tennis with live grenades? Or athletic events in a minefield?

The fact that showing a part of Janet Jackson's nipple for a fraction of a second caused more interest than the entire 3 and bit hours of superbowl final says a lot!
Quite how part of a naked man or woman can be deemed offensive in "the land of the free" (free to see only what W wants you to see!) and yet an abundance of corpses, machine gun riddled bodies and gunfights galore graces the TV screens of the nation night after night as "good wholesome entertainment", is way beyond me!
American football was a sport designed to give an abundance of fat kids something to be good at!
Again Baseball, another American icon that's just failed to get interest from the rest of the world. (Its called Rounders everywhere else and is played by high school girls!!! ) Go on, take the bait..... (*predict retort along the lines of same thing with soccer in US!!*)
We could get into a protracted discussion about soccer hooliganism, but that's not associated with events on the pitch, just a small faction of simpleminded thugs.
Anyway, we're way off topic here, so perhaps we'll just agree to disagree..... or continue this discussion elsewhere. * puts **** stirring spoon away!*

So, how many copies did GT4 sell today?

How do you simulate cricket without tea-time? It's impossible!

I know! Can you imagine the button combinations you'd need to cut the crusts off the cucumber sandwiches, while ensuring the tea doesn't stew? It'd be a nightmare!!

 

[Mr.Slow]

Originally Posted by toke81

i just think that it's too hard to get excited about a sport where people run around a huge field with barely anyone ever having control of the ball and the looming uncertainty of a point even being scored. at least let the players knock the sht out of each other.

I agree with smallhorses. Offcourse I am biased since I grew up in South America. But a bunch of really fat guys beating the crap out of each other is just plain silly. Same goes for rugby but I respect rugby players more coz they don't wear such big padding and they are way fitter than american footbal players.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Quite how part of a naked man or woman can be deemed offensive in "the land of the free" (free to see only what W wants you to see!) and yet an abundance of corpses, machine gun riddled bodies and gunfights galore graces the TV screens of the nation night after night as "good wholesome entertainment", is way beyond me!

Ive always wondered about that also. Purely natural and its good. Killin is bad yet its more accepted as conversation and isnt deemed wrong to show on tv.

 

[niky]

I know! Can you imagine the button combinations you'd need to cut the crusts off the cucumber sandwiches, while ensuring the tea doesn't stew? It'd be a nightmare!!

dual analog... hold teacup with left stick... stir with right... press X to pick up next biscuit...

 

[Ezz777]

dual analog... hold teacup with left stick... stir with right... press X to pick up next biscuit...

not to mention having to smoke a ciggy while SMS some bird and eat a pie. it is shane warne's cricket after all.

 

[toke81]

Again Baseball, another American icon that's just failed to get interest from the rest of the world. (Its called Rounders everywhere else and is played by high school girls!!! ) Go on, take the bait..... (*predict retort along the lines of same thing with soccer in US!!*)

ok...i really don't want to start shi..stuff either but i just want to reply. in regards to that, i have to take the bait and here goes, exactly as you predicted.
Again Football, another worldwide icon that's just failed to get interest from America. (It's called soccer here and is played by high school girls!!!)
i also know that it sounds typically american of me to suggest injecting violence into a boring game to make it better, but that's how our country is and what we americans were bred on. and i don't let my child see terrible violence like murders and crap like that on tv, but when people in the proper equipment are having fun beating each other around, i think that's ok for him to see and for us to enjoy. plus i mentioned baseball, which has practically zero violence, except when a baserunner collides into a defensive player, which rarely happens. me and my fiancee also will have no problem with exposed body parts and things of a sexual nature...when he's old enough. he's only 3 now so it's not quite the right time for him to see that stuff but sooner or later, he's going to have to learn about it one way or another. i agree, most of this country is way too ridiculously conservative. but there's nothing you or i can do about that. that's just people's beliefs, no matter how closed-minded or silly they are.

i also have no idea why you all are referencing american football, as i didn't mention it once in my rant. i don't enjoy the actual game, i don't think i've sat through one full game in my life, except when i went to the stadium to see the dolphins play, which is enjoyable because of the atmosphere. the only football i like is espn nfl 2k5 because it's fun to manipulate overpaid freaks of nature.

so there. now let's get off the subject because this thread is not going to change the world's and american's views about a damn thing

Check Costco's return policies... they are usually quite good and their prices aren't bad either. I am not sure if their usual return policy also applies to PS/2 games but I would not be surprised.

closest costco to me is a good thirty miles away so with the price of gas as it is, it would cancel out the price of the game (yes, i'm being facetious, i don't own a car that gets two miles to the gallon)

 

[Ezz777]

has anyone ever noticed that the only sports america is interested in are the one's that pretty much they only play - and hence are the best at? no sport popular in the US is the most popular sport in any other major region outside north america. no wonder the yanks didn't like soccer - they were no good at it. They just call things the "World Series" etc. to make them think the rest of the world cares.

Thank goodness they are preoccupied enough with their own internal motor racing series such that they still like the sport (and hence GT). Don't tell them they aren't any good at it and they won't stop liking it. {fizzle crackle pop} [that's fuel to the fire]

 

[toke81]

has anyone ever noticed that the only sports america is interested in are the one's that pretty much they only play - and hence are the best at? no sport popular in the US is the most popular sport in any other major region outside north america. no wonder the yanks didn't like soccer - they were no good at it.

there are plenty of americans that are great at soccer, which is their favorite sport. just because the majority of americans don't like it doesn't mean they wouldn't be good at it. if i was a great athlete and i didn't like soccer, that wouldn't neccesarily mean that if i gave it a shot and practiced, i would be terrible. the ability to play soccer doesn't stop at american borders. by perpetuating the stupid closedmind american stereotype youre only passing yourself off as the same, minus the american part.

 

[Ezz777]

yeah but stereotypes and generalisations are where we are at. its no fun admitting that some yanks are normal people. its their silly patriotism that bugs the rest of us, uniting themselves as one big happy, overly conservative, blindly religious, egotistical super power - that the rest of the world resents.

sorry for the edits...

but speaking on an individual basis is pointless. it is the group mentality regarding americans that bugs us. they as a community don't like soccer. i am absolutely positive that if the local national soccer league was regarded as being among the world's best, then they would like it. they would probably all play, and sure they would have a greater representation in the world of good soccer players. but they don't have one, so they don't like it, so they don't play, so they have nought but a few... (second time i've said something like that today!)

 

[toke81]

yeah but stereotypes and generalisations are where we are at. its no fun admitting that some yanks are normal people. its their silly patriotism that bugs the rest of us, uniting themselves as one big happy, overly conservative, blindly religious, egotistical super power - that the rest of the world resents.

ok understood. no one likes to concede victory, especially to another country. as i hope you've seen, i am a normal "yank" (here, that's a term for people from the northern part of the country, which we southerners have a unpleasant taste in our mouths for) and i in no way consider myself to be a part of the religious right. i did not vote for president bush, i voted for a man most people out of the country would not know of, dennis kuchinich. therefore, i did as much as i could to help this country out, short of a coup, to no avail. so we here and apparently, everyone else in the world, has to deal with dubya's antics for the next three and a half years. anyway, this thread has gone ridiculously off subject so let's agree to disagree on soccer and get back to our love of gt.

so, who else thinks supras rock?

 

[Ezz777]

. i did not vote for president bush,

neither did I!!!

 

[Smallhorses]

@ Toke81 (Yeah I like the Supra's too! ) The American Football reference was initially brought up in reponse to somebody who suggested the release of Madden '06 would impact GT4 sales, nothing to do with your soccer rant, so no offense meant. Enjoyed reading and responding to your posts! Quite a fun little debate we had there and a lot of truths from both sides.... all taken in the best possible goodnatured way.....


until Ezz777 got into the sterotype thing......that's going a little too far.
Mind if I ask where you're from and if you've ever visited the US? Just curious if you've any basis for your overly biased views?

 

[Ezz777]

hmm... i'm thinking my previous post was a clue. I am an american living for most my life in a country far enough removed to appreciate a greater view of america within the global context.

sorry if the stereotypes offended - they were more to stir on the debate. I would much rather talk on such topics than merely saying "umm... gt4 is selling well... ummm... i love it... it pWns". I quite enjoy poking the ribs of some of the strong minded individuals just for the response. i am however trying to do it in a relatively friendly manner. plus given the surroundings, i figure with all our differences, we will always have our common love of GT to unite us. i do like the way the more vocal and regular visitors express their views.

plus its friday arvo, i couldn't be arsed doing any more work, and beer o'clock is approaching, hence i am likely to throw any old rubbishy comment onto the fire, just to see the pretty coloured flames.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Very interesting debate.

I personally think over the next 40 years or so the power will shift away from the US to Europe, call it a guesstimate.

 

[Smallhorses]

plus its friday arvo, i couldn't be arsed doing any more work, and beer o'clock is approaching, hence i am likely to throw any old rubbishy comment onto the fire, just to see the pretty coloured flames.

Aha! Now I see! Mistook you for a minute for one of my own small-minded countrymen (that I'm ashamed to admit exist!) that are prepare to diss anything "Yank" without actual experience.
Take it from your post you've gone to join my antipodean cousins down under?
I'm not fond of armchair critics, that's all, have heard too much "France/Germany/USA/etc/etc is 🤬" nonsense from too many people while I was growing up, but from people who base these ideas on stereotypes they've read about without ever leaving their own homes.... That's why I challenged you!

Wow, there's so much debate & opinion in here this thread is in danger of having its name changed and being moved to the Rumble strip opinions thread!!!
I look forward to seeing you guys around the Planet more often, I'll be looking out for your posts! People that can take ribtickling are always fun to banter with!

So how IS GT4 selling anyway?!!!!

P.S. Rubbish containing Copper (Green Flames) or Potassium (Purple Flames) is fun if you're thinking of throwing any more out!!!

 

[xXSilencerXx]

has anyone ever noticed that the only sports america is interested in are the one's that pretty much they only play - and hence are the best at? no sport popular in the US is the most popular sport in any other major region outside north america. no wonder the yanks didn't like soccer - they were no good at it. They just call things the "World Series" etc. to make them think the rest of the world cares.

I'm American and I've played soccer for 9 years and I play football too. They're very fun to play. They both take team work and skill to win. Ofcourse people are only gonna like to talk about things they are good at.

 

[Dr_Watson]

i am absolutely positive that if the local national soccer league was regarded as being among the world's best, then they would like it. they would probably all play, and sure they would have a greater representation in the world of good soccer players. but they don't have one, so they don't like it, so they don't play, so they have nought but a few... (second time i've said something like that today!)

didn't the U.S. Women win the Girly world cup twice in a row?
and no one cared.
no one would even know who mia hamm was if she didn't get on a cereal box.

 

[thegreatms]

has anyone ever noticed that the only sports america is interested in are the one's that pretty much they only play - and hence are the best at? no sport popular in the US is the most popular sport in any other major region outside north america.

what about golf?? that is pretty popular world wide isn't it

i am a normal "yank" (here, that's a term for people from the northern part of the country,

Actually a "yank" is specifically from the north east as in "New England Yankee".

see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee
"Today Yankee is most often used to refer to a New Englander (in which case it may denote New England puritan and thrifty values)."

yes I am thrifty, but not that puritan...

also from wiki:
" To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.
—(an old definition) "

 

[thegreatms]

didn't the U.S. Women win the Girly world cup twice in a row?
and no one cared.
no one would even know who mia hamm was if she didn't get on a cereal box.

I will if she keeps taking of clothes

 

[jdw]

Very interesting debate.

I personally think over the next 40 years or so the power will shift away from the US to Europe, call it a guesstimate.

Europe? Please... The only thing Europeans seem to agree on is not to agree! Too much history to get over... Like sitting on a council with all your ex-girlfriends (with a couple of former friends who cheated on you with a couple of those exes) (J/K!)

Not that we Americans are that much better but, until CA secedes from the Union we're stuck with earlier choices of Uniting.

My personal guesstimate for a power shift: China.



Oh! What? Uhh.. yeah. I umm... hear GT4 sold really, really well

 

[Smallhorses]

Wow, & I thought I'd steered this thing off topic! Now its so far off track it's like its broken out of Seattle track and is heading for a billion mph! There, a nice GT reference to get it headed back in the right direction!!!

 

[jdw]

Wow, & I thought I'd steered this thing off topic! Now its so far off track it's like its broken out of Seattle track and is heading for a billion mph! There, a nice GT reference to get it headed back in the right direction!!!

Once you're in the Twilight Zone...

 

[Smallhorses]

That makes so much more sense with the C in Once!!!!
Was trying to figure out what "One you're in the Twilight Zone" meant!!!!

 

[toke81]

i dont think anyone involved in this discussion cares anymore about how well gt4 is selling? and why should we? all high sales of the game are doing for us is boosting the economy in it's own awesome way

 

[niky]

GT4 sales will only boost the Japanese economy. The power shift in world politics will occur mostly based on sales of PS3 units and Gran Turismo. The Japanese empire will once again reign supreme!

 

[McLaren]

GT4 sales will only boost the Japanese economy. The power shift in world politics will occur mostly based on sales of PS3 units and Gran Turismo. The Japanese empire will once again reign supreme!

How can they not become supreme?
They have freaking toilets that wash you!