If you can do this... You're a great drifter... I think

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that was offsensive. You can drift FF without ebrake. But people that use power over and power to maintain their drift with FR can't possibly understand it.
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They can but it's...
so utterly pathetic it's not really good enough to be held in the same regard as rear drive and all-wheel drive vehicles.
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Originally posted by Seito4Counter
Dog are you high? (imho all you need is forward power, and the rear wheels have to be moving/spinning)
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Well, I must say I am a tad confused. You basicly just agreed with what I said, only way over simplified. If you have forward power, and your wheels are spinning, you are doing a burnout. That is why I chose to explain it more in depth, so it covers all the bases.;)
 
Originally posted by drifter7
drifting by definition is exceeding lateral adhesion(sp?)
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No, that is spinning out. Drifting is controling the car past the limit of lateral adhesion. ;)
 
all you ametures dam. you all dont now jack. as for the definitions haha. it all suits the way your dumb asses who think they know it all. just cause you cant do it you gotta criticize it haha. so why is FR drifting any better than an FF drifting. it all takes technique to do, and by the way you dumb ass people drift with the FR cars i dont see why FF should should be thought of being bad.

oh as for a drift i dont see anything about a tire sliding with balance what so ever. FF, Pull YES. FR, Push OH REALLY. i think its quit funny dont you think. OH, wait 4WD Push and Pull oh man is a baby comin out of pergatory's ass now hahaha. wat a Dumb ****.

the point is it all has concepts to doin it rite. and for all those who dont know Jack ****, "ShUt ThE **** ^"!

you mom must of have drop you when you were a kid so go to the Hospital and get your AZZ Checked!
 
What I mean silvia is that it doesn't matter if the power is generated from the front or rear wheels. Also i said the rear wheels must spin (talking about FF) meaning:

Only pulling the car through a corner with the handbrake on is not a drift, FF cars can go beyond that type of drifting.
That is a beginner's attempt at an FF drift.
(no offense to anyone)

"so utterly pathetic it's not really good enough to be held in the same regard as rear drive and all-wheel drive vehicles."

that's your opinion, it's obvious you really enjoy your own opinions. I enjoy mine as well.

FF can drift. Fact. No one can debate that.

Whether you don't like an FF drift, thats up to you.
IMO I prefer FF and AWD, drifts because of the intense speeds and extreme angles. These seem more practical.

(Also, isn't this getting a little bit too intense for a debate.. ABOUT A GAME?)
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
cough** hater ** cough cough
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I aint hatin. just representin. after all this time you idiots been puttin down the FF way of driftin, its time for someone to stand up for it. so yea. just cause you suck doesnt mean you have to freaken put it down.

edited by Moderator. Akina, Use this type of language again, and you'll be searching for a new home. And yes, the limit on signatures is 6 lines in total. Please edit yours to meet the requirements.

Never mind, I read the rest of the thread. Serve as an example. Do not use this type of language.

Dont dare to challenge me cause you wont win.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39048
 
Question:

Without any e-brake involved, can an FF car keep up with an FR car corner for corner in exhibition drifting?

Answer:
Absolutely not possible. No.


If you dipsute this I'll prove my point. Since I don't like FF drifting, and I MUST suck at it, I'll stick to an FR car. We'll do one lap at SS11 II. You can use any FF car you'd like.

Rules:
Both cars must be stock
Laps must not be edited in any way
No music during the laps
Tire choice is up to you
GTPDC Judging System
NO E-BRAKE


After this, you'll see why FF drifting is inferiror. Just because it can doesn't make it ideal.
 
If you think FF drifting is possible, you obviously have a very simplistic view of what drifting actually is.

Dragging the ass of the car in a FF is pretty much the equivalent of powersliding in a FR. You may be sideways, but it isn't drifting.

Drifting is: Controlling a car past the limit of adhesion, using weight transfer, countersteer, braking, and throttle control. If your rear wheels aren't powered, than it is not drifting......period.
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Agreed.


It's not to say that sliding a FF through a corner isn't difficult or that it doesn't take technique or anything. It does. It's just not drifting.


-Mark
 
who says anything about not using the ebrake. you dumb ass. ebrake is part of drifting you got a problem. what a freaken moron. if you want the battle you got it. well go for the most angle and most link corners all right. if you cannot do this you ****en Suck and Shut the **** up you Novice peice of Shiet. comin in hea think you know it all i been hea longer and i know tons more about this.
 
Originally posted by akina_86
I aint hatin. just representin. after all this time you idiots been puttin down the FF way of driftin, its time for someone to stand up for it. so yea. just cause you suck doesnt mean you have to freaken put it down.

oh yea why you coughin haha must be a Pretty big Di*K in your mouth. or is it the ass. do yourself a favor and stop it before u die.


Dont dare to challenge me cause you wont win.


https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39048
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that was stupid u just made a link to the same thread and i didn't made fun of FF drifting
 
Why don't you guys just chill out?
Just let it be, whether FF can drift or not drift...

but to tell the truth, IMO, FF drift is still not a "real" drift, but it still very exciting watching FF doing slides....
anyhow, we all having fun sliding our cars is it?
Sorry if I've offended anyone... I shut up now :)
 
Originally posted by Stanley^Carter
Why don't you guys just chill out?
Just let it be, whether FF can drift or not drift...

but to tell the truth, IMO, FF drift is still not a "real" drift, but it still very exciting watching FF doing slides....
anyhow, we all having fun sliding our cars is it?
Sorry if I've offended anyone... I shut up now :)
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(speechless) j/k lol
 
Originally posted by akina_86
who says anything about not using the ebrake. you dumb ass. ebrake is part of drifting you got a problem. what a freaken moron. if you want the battle you got it. well go for the most angle and most link corners all right. if you cannot do this you ****en Suck and Shut the **** up you Novice peice of Shiet. comin in hea think you know it all i been hea longer and i know tons more about this.
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E-brake is for amatuers. This is why many people, including Tsuchiya-san recommends it for beginners. It's like an automatic drift button, there's no work or skill involved. If FF lives up to what you make it out to be there shouldn't be a problem. But if you can't do it then don't worry about it. We all understand.
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
Question:

Without any e-brake involved, can an FF car keep up with an FR car corner for corner in exhibition drifting?

Answer:
Absolutely not possible. No.


If you dipsute this I'll prove my point. Since I don't like FF drifting, and I MUST suck at it, I'll stick to an FR car. We'll do one lap at SS11 II. You can use any FF car you'd like.

Rules:
Both cars must be stock
Laps must not be edited in any way
No music during the laps
Tire choice is up to you
GTPDC Judging System
NO E-BRAKE


After this, you'll see why FF drifting is inferiror. Just because it can doesn't make it ideal.
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So now you are saying using the handbrake to initiate a drift is illegitimate? sigh. If FR drifts with ebrake is that pathetic too? Please be consistent. Who said FF drifting was ideal? No form is ideal, merely each has an advantage for every style, and type of corner.


Also, If Akina does not want to meddle with your hubris, I shall accept that challenge. (it seems the fight is between you two however) On another note, can akina swear a little less in his posts?
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
(speechless) j/k lol
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shut up fool you are one of those peices of crap drifters who think they know it all but dont know shiet.

dam these stupid novice wannabes who slides a car around a corner and gets all excited about it.

you novice drifters are like a peice of turd that wouldnt flush.
 
E-brake sucks either way. There's no need for it at all. If I can get an FF sideways without e-brake, then you masters should have no problem.
 
Originally posted by Seito4Counter
So now you are saying using the handbrake to initiate a drift is illegitimate? sigh. If FR drifts with ebrake is that pathetic too? Please be consistent. Who said FF drifting was ideal? No form is ideal, merely each has an advantage for every style, and type of corner.


Also, If Akina does not want to meddle with your hubris, I shall accept that challenge. (it seems the fight is between you two however) On another note, can akina swear a little less in his posts?
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SEITO you said it well man but i think ill take it cause these novice drifters be comin in hea thinkin they know it all. its kewl aight
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
E-brake sucks either way. There's no need for it at all. If I can get an FF sideways without e-brake, then you masters should have no problem.
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Finally, I agree with you. But I won't go so far as to belittle a technique.. Tsuchiya used it when he used his MR-2.. if you remember that.
 
Originally posted by akina_86
shut up fool you are one of those peices of crap drifters who think they know it all but dont know shiet.

dam these stupid novice wannabes who slides a car around a corner and gets all excited about it.

you novice drifters are like a peice of turd that wouldnt flush.
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dude, i know i have to learn alot before i talk anything thats why i do research before posting Stuff on drifting like how to this or how to drift what
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
dude, i know i have to learn alot before i talk anything thats why i do research before posting Stuff on drifting like how to this or how to drift what
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than do not question or agree with anyone unless you know how much experience the got. you can tell by watch their videos for example. dont go tryin to save their backs because it will only make you look stupid. take a look around in GTP and think real hard about who in hea are the real drifters from GTP and ask them for help. dont bother these novice drifter they freaken suck.
or you can take their side and be a ****en dumb ass yourself.
 
Originally posted by nightkids4ever
i agree with pergatory because its skill to make a bunch of turns in style,speed, and control in order to be a great drifter
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is that F#$%# clear to u , if u F@$%#$ have to read it over and over to get it $%# clear in ur $#@%# head
 
Have you seen any of Perg's vids? Have you seen any of mine? Cause I've seen yours and they were pretty sloppy and pretty mediocre. Whereas Perg and myself finish 1st and 2nd place in the last GTPDC event.
 
So if I was driving a front engine front wheel drive car and I cranked on the side brake and held it there, locking the back wheels and driving in a straight line, I would be drifting?

That's basically what FF drifting is. Ass draging with angle.
 
Originally posted by akina_86
than do not question or agree with anyone unless you know how much experience the got. you can tell by watch their videos for example. dont go tryin to save their backs because it will only make you look stupid. take a look around in GTP and think real hard about who in hea are the real drifters from GTP and ask them for help. dont bother these novice drifter they freaken suck.
or you can take their side and be a ****en dumb ass yourself.
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u take a clear F#$%# look around man :banghead: :banghead:
 
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