If you can do this... You're a great drifter... I think

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hey guys, im new 2 the forum but hav been gt3 drifting for ages. maybe 2 years?

anywai

on this topic. i think that FF sliding can be considered drifting to. It is the technique of it all,
in my eyes [i dont mind if u disagree], drifting is a controlled slide where you can reach unbelievable angles whilst still being in control of the car.
therefore i believe FF's can drift. It must take allot of skill to drift an FF, i personally am no good at drifting FF's i respect people who have mastered FF drifting.
In reguards to drifting being racing or a test on technique. I think it can be either. depends on what the opponent wants to do.
Drifting in the eyes of racing owes allot to Initial d lol.

But at the end of the dai. what do all of us have in common?

we all love drifting


peace 2 all drifters and respect each others opinions ;) :) :D

Drift on ;) have fun

:)
 
i just read up on some definitions today,
i looked at "drift" and "slide"

in drifting, there was a definition that stated "an aircraft or boat carried by wind or a current *sideways* off of its original course."
this could also apply for cars, when they are using a force as the power of their rear wheels or ebrake to move the car *sideways*, wich is drifting.

the word "slide" was defined with one explanation stating "the car lost control and started to *slide* off the road". also defined "as an object sliding loosely on a smooth surface".
this is implying that the car has lost control.

when you "drift" FF, you are in control, so therefore you cannot call it a slide.
and the rear wheels locking up are a force that causes the car to move sideways off of its original course.
and staying in control of it counters the fact that its sliding.

i have just proved that FF "sliding" IS FF DRIFTING.:D
 
this FF slide or drift thing is kinda getting annoying...y not just agree to disagree( i know that sounds stupid but anyway) and stop arguing about it
 
Originally posted by F.Zamataki
i just read up on some definitions today,
i looked at "drift" and "slide"

in drifting, there was a definition that stated "an aircraft or boat carried by wind or a current *sideways* off of its original course."
this could also apply for cars, when they are using a force as the power of their rear wheels or ebrake to move the car *sideways*, wich is drifting.

the word "slide" was defined with one explanation stating "the car lost control and started to *slide* off the road". also defined "as an object sliding loosely on a smooth surface".
this is implying that the car has lost control.

when you "drift" FF, you are in control, so therefore you cannot call it a slide.
and the rear wheels locking up are a force that causes the car to move sideways off of its original course.
and staying in control of it counters the fact that its sliding.

i have just proved that FF "sliding" IS FF DRIFTING.:D
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You keep bringing up the literal translations of the words, when it is irrelevant. We are talking about how drifting is defined as a motor sport. I know what the words mean, but that has nothing to do with this debate. By your definitions, almost anything can be considered drifting. I don't know how else to tell you...... ;)
 
it is a sport..well in japan at least..
and sil, you can take that last reply i made and apply it to the sport itself.
you people are saying its not considered drifting because its "opposite" or something like that.
i mean i know ull never see an FF in a D1 comp, or in any option vids(for all i know)
but the fact is it is clearly doable and is in the same field....just diff drivetrain.
and if u refer back to my link to driftclub.com's diagrams, it has a diagram for FF drifting...i donno arrg this is getting annoying..but .........i.............must...................fight.....:banghead:
 
Originally posted by Street Fighter
It isn't a sport, Sil.
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I'm so sick of people saying this.... Do your research before you make ignorant statements. It is, and has been for a long time, a sport, in Japan. It is a sport in the US, as well, and it is growing fast.....Have you never heard of D1? ;)
 
D1 is the only 'sport' application of drifting.
D1 doesn't make it a sport though. It's more of a comparitive judging thing, like a competition.

And for the record, FR is the only drivetrain allowed in D1.
 
It's just a novel thing to do.
Now that word is going around, the novelty is more widespread, and the more a novelty is recognized and capitalized upon, the faster it gets used up. Take skateboarding for example. I don't support D1 and I no longer support GTP:dc. I want to enjoy drifting for as long as I possibly can. Please don't argue with that.
 
Well, skateboarding is considered a sport, as well as drifting. Believe what you want, but nothing you say is going to change the facts. Furthermore, I don't know why you are spitting out random information...ie -

And for the record, FR is the only drivetrain allowed in D1.
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I'm just gonna let this thread die, as it has descended into the void............;)
 
Sorry. The only drivetrain that isn't allowed is 4WD.
But that's beside the point.
Hockey is a sport. Football is a sport. Racing is a sport.
Skateboarding is a productive hobby. Drifting is a productive hobby.
Saying drifting is a sport is like saying a dog show is a sport.
It's all show. There are judges who rate you on your ability to do certain things.

A sport is an activity with mutual set goals to be achieved and maybe a referee to make sure nobody is breaking the rules.
 
Originally posted by Street Fighter
You can't just go "play" drifting with your friend.
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Say what?! I do all the time. You're confused my friend. Drifting is a sport by every definition of the word. You are judged on your abilities like gymnastics.
 
Originally posted by pergatory
Say what?! I do all the time. You're confused my friend. Drifting is a sport by every definition of the word. You are judged on your abilities like gymnastics.
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Exactly. Not to mention you are way in the dark about Skateboarding. Skateboarding has been a sport for many years. You seam to be quite confused on what defines a sport. ;)
 
I've been skateboarding for 7 years. I am certain that my knowledge of the whole philosophy behind it is a little greater than yours, Sil.

A sport has set rules that are used everywhere.

Perg, please enlighten me as to how you can drift competetively with a friend?

Continue this here, as this is off topic.
 
Originally posted by Street Fighter
I've been skateboarding for 7 years. I am certain that my knowledge of the whole philosophy behind it is a little greater than yours, Sil.

A sport has set rules that are used everywhere.

Perg, please enlighten me as to how you can drift competetively with a friend?
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LOLOLOLOL. You better make sure who your talking to, before you say stupid things like that.... I have been skateboarding for over 13 years. I have been sponsored by Supreme, Spitfire, Gravity Sports, and Alien Workshop....I think I can possitively say I am a little more knowledgeable about the Sport of Skateboarding.

Perg brought up a good point. Skateboarding, drifting, snowboarding, etc.... are scored just like Ice Skating, or Gymnastics. Just because something is judged on style, using a point scale, doesn't make it any less a sport. I think you should do some more research, before you let any more ignorant things come out of your mouth............... ;)
 
I have some sponsors too, but 13 years eh. Then you probably would have noticed that skateboarding was just starting to gain a decent amount of popularity before our "friend" Mr. Hawk released an appealingly easy to play and fun game called Pro Skater. After which, the industry exploded, but now it's beginning to fade and I have grown a dislike for capitalization.

I just don't want to see drifting turn into skateboarding, but I can do nothing but ignore this inevitability and the culture it will form.

Have fun while it lasts guys... :\
 
Originally posted by Street Fighter
I have some sponsors too, but 13 years eh. Then you probably would have noticed that skateboarding was just starting to gain a decent amount of popularity before our "friend" Mr. Hawk released an appealingly easy to play and fun game called Pro Skater. After which, the industry exploded, but now it's beginning to fade and I have grown a dislike for capitalization.

I just don't want to see drifting turn into skateboarding, but I can do nothing but ignore this inevitability and the culture it will form.

Have fun while it lasts guys... :\
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The 'explosion' of the skateboarding scene had nothing to do with THPS or any game. Kids are constantly searching for new things to do because they are so bored. They will find something, it's only a matter of time. It's a cycle. Those who aren't caught up in the cycle are those who realize the true meaning of a sport, and don't just move on to the next thing when whatever they're doing becomes "unfashionable."

Also, another thing. Don't judge people. It's bad form, and only shows that you are immature.
 
Originally posted by Street Fighter
Who was I judging?
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Originally posted by Street Fighter
I am certain that my knowledge of the whole philosophy behind it is a little greater than yours, Sil.
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I know, just one occurance. Still, I see a lot of inflated egos around this forum and it's starting to get me on edge so I'm going to start calling people on it. It's ok even if you do have an inflated ego, you're allowed to, I'm just saying it would benefit you to learn how to restrain yourself from making comments like this.

Originally posted by Street Fighter
Btw, you still haven't properly responded to a rather important thing I stated.
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I don't even know how to respond, I don't even know what your point is. Please clarify. Why can't I "just go play drifting with my friend?" If I can drift, and he can drift, then we can drift together. It doesn't get much more simple than that.
 
Pergatory, I find myself agreeing with your genius yet again.
My ego has inflated recently.

But I think my statement was more of a question.
A sport is usually gained from it's ability to be used as a constructive game that can be played with friends at varying levels of intensity and fun, but has potential to be played at a high level intensity and maturity. There is nothing stopping you from drifting with someone(s) and mutually enjoying it for what it is, but how do your drift against your friends competetively?

This is one of the reasons why I insist that drifting is not a sport and to make it a sport would just be impractical and it would become so widely known, that it's novelty and purpose will wear away quickly. I mean, seeing someone slide around a corner, smoking tires and full throttle, is a really neat thing to see, but it will only be so neat for so long. This is why I am so opposed to publicity. I just want to do my own thing and not be criticized by others, but gain a little respect for doing something unique. Ya know?

This is the second time I have stated that we are now off topic and to post on the thread I have made here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/t-39306.html
 
IT DOESN'T AND NIETHER TO I.
I don't want it to become a sport and I don't understand why these guys are insisting that "Drifting is a sport".

This applies to everyone:
By continuing to post here, you are stating that you are ignoring me, which is REALLY pushing me to the edge. This thread is (was) about drifting around Test Course.

Third time, people...
Originally posted by Street Fighter
This is the second time I have stated that we are now off topic and to post on the thread I have made here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/t-39306.html
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Originally posted by battle_stage
I lost you after "Drifting is a sport".
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Dry humor, very nice.............
Please just drop this, SF, I don't know why you are so stubborn, but you have your blinders on, and your not even using logic anymore....Just let it go................................


;)
 
Too much vitriol + not enough content = thread closure

Try to stick on the point being discussed. And try not to be so emotive.
 
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