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[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Might as well be, I can't pass an inspection for Nasa Honda Challenge series with a Cusco, so point still stands.

http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/Honda-Challenge.pdf

Besides, why would I buy a Cusco when I can fab and install my own Nascar spec cage for half the price.

Unless im missing something theres nothing there that says you can't buy a Cusco Bolt in cage then weld it in.

 

[Dac_Xint]

Kelly Blue Book value for a 1990 base model Miata with 65000 miles and in excellent conditions is $1885. No luck required for that.

Wish its that cheap in the UK to find one with such low mileage, no rust and kept in good condition...

I agree its a very cheap car nonetheless and its not that I don't see the logic of getting one right now, but I'm in metropolitan Hong Kong, and you really have to be back in a country that has endless country roads (N.Ireland I miss your roads terribly) in order to really appreciate an MX-5

I do really like those wheels actually, but I suspect getting hold of some like that in the UK would be quite difficult. It's not easy finding Watanabes. And certainly not in my budget. If I go down that route I'll probably be getting some proper Minilites or Minatours.

Work Equips costs about £250 each last I checked (2 years ago). We can almost certainly kiss Watanabes good bye in the UK... like you said, get a good set of magnesium minilites reps at a fraction of the price are just as good...

 

[homeforsummer]

Work Equips costs about £250 each last I checked (2 years ago). We can almost certainly kiss Watanabes good bye in the UK... like you said, get a good set of magnesium minilites reps at a fraction of the price are just as good...

Yeah, £250 a pop is way too much for my budget. You can get 14" Minilites for about £100 each. And you can get them in charcoal colour for another £50-odd for the four, which is what I'd go for. And then I'd have something a little like these, which would please me immensely

And for something different, how about a Miata rally car?...

 

[Joey D]

Miata rallye car = win! I love it.

 

[Dac_Xint]

This is madness, convertible rally car... has there ever been another? This may be a first in history (older than the 307cc)!

You just had those racy images sitting on your hdd waiting for the day to show us all right?

Watanabes / Minilites are great, but I think its all in the deep dish-ness of them... once they start rolling they really become something else. Same goes to deep dish steelies

 

[homeforsummer]

This is madness, convertible rally car... has there ever been another?

Yeah, plenty actually. Most Triumph TR models have been rallied in the past...

...and the odd Boxter...

...and I can't believe nobody else has had a similar idea before.

 

[SamX]

Fiat 124 spider abarth 👍

This baby winning a lot

 

[homeforsummer]

Ah yes, that'd be another one!

 

[motortrend]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6mny6YIZvw

NICE SLIDESHOW OF 2000 GT-R pics. how do you put a YT vid in here? I tried embedding but it doesnt work

 

[homeforsummer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6mny6YIZvw

NICE SLIDESHOW OF 2000 GT-R pics. how do you put a YT vid in here? I tried embedding but it doesnt work

There you go. Just put

 

[motortrend]

There you go. Just put

 

[homeforsummer]

oh ok thanks, i just thought they werent woking since it was just a blank box

If you ended up with a blank box you presumably copied the wrong bit of the URL into the tags.

 

[Dac_Xint]

What a fool I am for not remembering the Triumph rally car... my Triumph Dolomite owner friend is going to burn me for this...

 

[Zmann42087]

The most popular pre-designed roll bars and cages that people bolt in come from Autopower, and another company I forget the name of. Anyone wanna help me on that?

Technosquare.

 

[Spec M]

Unless im missing something theres nothing there that says you can't buy a Cusco Bolt in cage then weld it in.

Well yes I guess you're. It specifically states on PG2 Sect 4.9;

4.9

All cars shall have a NASCAR CCR-compliant roll cage,

Cusco's are in no way shape or form NASCAR compliant, even if you "weld it in", which wouldn't matter anyway.

 

[Leonidae]

official rules> ghetto street tuning applications. 👍

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Well yes I guess you're. It specifically states on PG2 Sect 4.9;

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Cusco's are in no way shape or form NASCAR compliant, even if you "weld it in", which wouldn't matter anyway.

I'd love for you to screen shot the NASCAR part cause it says NASA CCR.

4.9 Roll Cage
All cars shall have a NASA CCR-compliant roll cage. Additionally,
a) Any number of additional mounting points may be used.
b) Any number of additional tubes may be used, even for chassis stiffening.
c) Any size mounting plate may be used, subject to material and minimum specifications in the
NASA CCR.
d) Two (2) forward cage braces per side (total of four (4)) may pass through the firewall and connect
at no more than two (2) mounting points in the engine compartment (i.e. strut tower or frame).
e) Tubes may be welded at any contact point, or even be “seam welded.” Additional material may be
used to connect roll cage tubing to chassis of car. I.E. A pillar bar may have material welded to
both itself and the A pillar of the car.
f) If modification number 4.9.5 above is utilized, an additional thirty (30) pound weight penalty will
apply.
g) All tubes that are added shall be inspected for safety reasons. Any tube deemed to be hazardous
to the driver must be removed.

Only NASCAR ref

4.10 Door Safety Bars
The driver side OEM side impact beam may not be removed or modified unless NASCAR-style bars (or other
approved design as defined in CCR) which extend to the outer door skin are added to the roll cage. The
passenger side OEM side impact beam may not be removed unless two (2) bars are utilized in the cage
design (i.e. two (2) horizontal bars or X design).
It is highly recommended using a NASCAR style door bar for adequate side impact protection. In any case,
NASA CCR-compliant roll cage door protection is required on both sides of the car.

So nothing wrong with welding in a bolt in cusco cage.

 

[Leonidae]

okay, kids, back on topic..

 

[Bram Turismo]

Those mid-90s Japanese race cars for the 24 hours of Le Mans race always give me a nostalgic feeling when I see them. I think mostly because GT1 and GT2 contained much of these cars. Some more Japanese GT LM cars:

 

[Spec M]

So nothing wrong with welding in a bolt in cusco cage.

You seriously believe that a Cusco is NASCAR, SCCA or 'NASA' (which are the same) CCR compliant

If thats what you think more power to you but, here are the facts though 👍

http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/330967.aspx
http://www.socalcivic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17749
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=733109
http://drift411.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=512&st=0&p=4588&#entry4588
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/0403ht_honda_crx_racecar_roll_cage/index.html

not SCCA/NASA legal

the problem with Cusco or other JDM cage are the trianglation of the diagonal brace are on the wrong side for our USDM left hand drive cars.

If you google it theres countless threads


Real>Cusco

...

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Wow, you seriously believe that a Cusco is NASCAR, SCCA or 'NASA' (which are the same) CCR compliant

No i never you said that cars racing in the Nasa Honda Challenge series had to have roll cages that are NASCAR compliant which they do not.

 

[Spec M]

They're the same structural design and far from a Cusco which was my point.
You said;

So nothing wrong with welding in a bolt in cusco cage.

Which is false, you wont pass inspection with one so it doesn't matter if you weld it in.

The fact that this cage failed has nothing to do with it being "bolt-in." Even if it was welded in, it would have punched through the floor considering the lack of proper baseplates.

Exactly. This mustang did not have a real safety device.

bolt in cage = rice

IWSTI.com



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[Holdenhsvgtsr]

They're the same structural design and far from a Cusco which was my point.
You said;
Which is false, you wont pass inspection with one so it doesn't matter if you weld it in.


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Not false,read the MSA Rule Book for the UK bolt in cages are allowed.

More fool them for fitting a cage for a RHD car to a LHD car also the cage wasn't welded in.

looks fine

 

[Spec M]

I've seen these photos before and you're comparing a low speed roll that proves nothing but the cage may protect you from a low speed roll, but not this,

Looks wondeful!


You can't seriously compare these two crashes, I mean c'mon seriously

Its apparent that this car was traveling at a faster rate of speed and greater force, going off course into the grass and then through the tire barrior, and over the fence. In fact so much that the cage punched holes through the floor because it didn't have REAL floor mounts.

Not false,read the MSA Rule Book for the UK bolt in cages are allowed.

Ok this entire discussion has been about SCCA and Nasa, Honda Challenge specifically.
Wow, my head hurts from trying to explain something so simple

 

[Azuremen]

Ok this entire discussion has been about SCCA and Nasa, Honda Challenge specifically.
Wow, my head hurts from trying to explain something so simple

Welcome to the club. I think most of us have just given up on trying, so you aren't alone.

 

[Spec M]

Welcome to the club. I think most of us have just given up on trying, so you aren't alone.

Man I give up to, its not my safety being compromised or money being wasted so I refuse to care anymore.


PS.

official rules> ghetto street tuning applications. 👍

Lol'd at this earlier, sorry for going off topic Leonidae but c'mon 'seriously'... Lol

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

Steve Millen's 300zx LM FTW! I love looking through the Stillen catelog when it comes and seeing all the old pictures of him racing throughout it. 👍

 

[Perfect Balance]

Sucks that the pic is so small, but:

Also, at that 240. I doubt the roof would have caved in on that rollover even if it had no roll cage whatsoever.

 

[Time_Attack]

So the guy driving the mustang... What happened?

 

[SVX]

Was the guy alive after the crash?