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[CarBastard]

Just to be clear, what do blue flags mean?

Maybe I'm an ignorant and a looney, but I think they mean "Get out of the way, someone who has something to lose is behind you trying to overtake". Am I wrong? The guy who crashed me gave me a half-apology because he insisted it was partially my fault because I was slower. Thing is, I overtook him on the penultimate corner of Okayama, the one with the pit lane entrance, and he took the inside line while I overtook him from the outside, a clear sign I think of me being faster. Then I heard a thump and saw sand trough the windshield instead of track. How can an overtake from the outside be considered slow and faulty? Ohh well...time to file it and stop ranting now that my frustration is almost gone .

Personally, I'll keep my definition of blue flag at least when it comes to people overtaking me when I'm the lapped man. I find it a sign of common sense and respect to just get out of the way when you have nothing to win or lose, but the man behind you has.

 

[Kamuifanboy]

I am just absolutely stunned by the amount of people running into problems with bad drivers. So much that I am starting to wonder if the person complaining is doing something wrong. I have maybe only run across 1 or 2 drivers that have done things like you guys are describing... In two years. It isn't like I'mslow either. Always a fighter for the win.

 

[left888]

Just to be clear, what do blue flags mean?

Maybe I'm an ignorant and a looney,

According to iRacings rule 6.5.

Blue Flag (blue with diagonal yellow stripe) – Indicates faster cars are approaching. This flag is informational only. In all cases, it is the responsibility of the faster car to safely overtake the slower car. It is the responsibility of the slower car to maintain a consistent line. It is strongly recommended that a slower car being lapped makes every reasonable effort to facilitate a safe pass

So in essence, it is not up to the slower car to move out of the way.

 

[Eric.]

Yep. Blue flag is nothing more than an advisory that a car on a higher lap count than you is now within 1.5s behind you.

Kamu, I feel exactly the same way.

 

[Mac K]

Every reasonable effort to facilitate a safe pass to me means not battling with cars on the lead lap, its fine if a lapped driver is holding their line, but if cars on the lead lap are fairly close, the lapped car should let them through, or at least move over on a straight.

 

[left888]

I am just absolutely stunned by the amount of people running into problems with bad drivers. So much that I am starting to wonder if the person complaining is doing something wrong.

I feel the exact same way, I only had one bad driver in over a year, thanks to him I took 12 incidents in one race, he nailed me on turn 1 when I slowed up for the field, then for good measure he backed up and nailed me again when I was prying my knees out of the back of my head.

Every reasonable effort to facilitate a safe pass to me means not battling with cars on the lead lap, its fine if a lapped driver is holding their line, but if cars on the lead lap are fairly close, the lapped car should let them through, or at least move over on a straight.

The worst thing the slower driver can do is pull over when it's not safe to do so. I saw a guy pull over doing 120 MPH lost control hit the fence bounced across the track and took out 3 or 4 cars. I snuck through without a scratch.

I have been lapped many times, as the rule states, I will facilitate a clean pass when I can, not when someone wants me too.

 

[Mac K]

I am just absolutely stunned by the amount of people running into problems with bad drivers. So much that I am starting to wonder if the person complaining is doing something wrong. I have maybe only run across 1 or 2 drivers that have done things like you guys are describing... In two years. It isn't like I'mslow either. Always a fighter for the win.

We're all in rookie, need I remind you of the Caddy Promo? Recipe for disaster.

 

[left888]

The MX-5 can be just as bad in Rookie and then again I have seen clean races in rookie MX-5, same goes for higher licenses. You just never know what to expect sometimes.

 

[CarBastard]

We're all in rookie, need I remind you of the Caddy Promo? Recipe for disaster.

That is my answer as well. Even though I'm thankful for the Caddy promo, it might be a pain for the existing iRacing members. I know I'm no overtaking genius yet, specially in such a tight, or at least to me, circuit like Okayama short, but I make every possible effort to avoid contact and take my mistakes to the grass rather than to an opponents body panel. In an ideal world, people should as well, I think.

Also, I think that blue flag definition rekindles the discussion we had this year at the Le Mans thread. I'll abide by it, because it's a rule, but I strongly disagree. And as I said, when it comes to people overtaking me if I'm lapped, I'll do what I would like people to do, and I'll get out of the way and give them the racing line.

 

[Mac K]

The MX-5 can be just as bad in Rookie and then again I have seen clean races in rookie MX-5, same goes for higher licenses. You just never know what to expect sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I've had some great races in the MX-5s with no issues whatsoever.

That is my answer as well. Even though I'm thankful for the Caddy promo, it might be a pain for the existing iRacing members. I know I'm no overtaking genius yet, specially in such a tight, or at least to me, circuit like Okayama short, but I make every possible effort to avoid contact and take my mistakes to the grass rather than to an opponents body panel. In an ideal world, people should as well, I think.
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Exactly. What more would you like us to do? I don't purposely go around and look for trouble. I wait to make my passes, Etc.

 

[Jav]

I see the posts by our guys and can somewhat relate to them. I always manage to find every loonie out there! I joined iRacing towards the end of the PSN outage so I guess there was a lot of GT5 guys joining too. Getting out of rookie was tough for me till I just forgot about racing and started from the pits every single race wich worked like a charm! For some people racing works fine and they need to just make minor adjustments, for others it's an uphill battle.
I think the time of day you race makes a big difference regarding how fast you will get out of Rookie. Normally you'll see the same people over and over again, perhaps altering your race schedule a bit can work in your favor, but unfourtunately not everyone has the luxury of doing that.
No matter what it all comes down to the saying, "the goal of every rookie should be getting out of rookie". The system works, at times it may seem unfair but we are all meassured by the same stick.

 

[CarBastard]

I see the posts by our guys and can somewhat relate to them. I always manage to find every loonie out there! I joined iRacing towards the end of the PSN outage so I guess there was a lot of GT5 guys joining too. Getting out of rookie was tough for me till I just forgot about racing and started from the pits every single race wich worked like a charm! For some people racing works fine and they need to just make minor adjustments, for others it's an uphill battle.
I think the time of day you race makes a big difference regarding how fast you will get out of Rookie. Normally you'll see the same people over and over again, perhaps altering your race schedule a bit can work in your favor, but unfourtunately not everyone has the luxury of doing that.
No matter what it all comes down to the saying, "the goal of every rookie should be getting out of rookie". The system works, at times it may seem unfair but we are all meassured by the same stick.

That goal is done by now, but I want MOAR!!! . At the moment I'm just waiting until the end of the month for my rookie promotion, my MPR is all set for my rookie license to be upgraded to a D one, but I still want to win a race before I move on .

 

[Eric.]

I decided to pull the trigger and raced the Skip Barber at Brands Hatch, despite having some trouble in practice. Had not qualified, started ninth, I think. Spun on turn 4 trying to stay on the outside line. Fought back to finish in 6th, nearly 5th, but lost it on one of the last turns while catching the P5 car. Good combo once you figure it out.

 

[Jav]

Jav are you going to create a thread for the league? Any idea on races and times?

Working on the thread's design, should be up in a week or so!

That goal is done by now, but I want MOAR!!! . At the moment I'm just waiting until the end of the month for my rookie promotion, my MPR is all set for my rookie license to be upgraded to a D one, but I still want to win a race before I move on .

If I was in your place I'd just do TTs to fasttrack it to D, then go straightn to the Grand Touring Cup wich is running Laguna Seca this week and use that to get to C license or at least get the MPR for it!

 

[Jav]

Sorry, double post...

 

[Eric.]

Race 2 in the Skip went badly. A car near the front got loose in turn 1, causing everyone to scatter. I went wide into the sand but hit the car as it snapped to the left. Caught a slower car later and was being held up considerably. He hit the brakes in a weird spot, way early for turn 7, I react the best I can to slow down, barely tapped him (0x) and he got loose. I didn't watch the replay, but I went right by him and he started bitching at me for hitting him.

After the race he was all "I'm sorry for getting mad at your I hate when I do that". Yeah, whatever.

 

[Imari]

Race 2 in the Skip went badly. A car near the front got loose in turn 1, causing everyone to scatter. I went wide into the sand but hit the car as it snapped to the left. Caught a slower car later and was being held up considerably. He hit the brakes in a weird spot, way early for turn 7, I react the best I can to slow down, barely tapped him (0x) and he got loose. I didn't watch the replay, but I went right by him and he started bitching at me for hitting him.

After the race he was all "I'm sorry for getting mad at your I hate when I do that". Yeah, whatever.

That's sort of why I don't have a key bound to PTT. When an incident happens the first reaction is to blame the other guy and swear at him. I prefer to cuss people without them hearing me. After the race it's much easier to be understanding and cool.

I have macros bound to type "Thanks" and "Sorry". I figure those are about the only things you really need to say while you're driving.

 

[Roush_fan_99]

I just did my first League race, the guys in the NW league have 4 series currently running, Pacific Prototypes (Riley and Radical), Rose Cup (Impala Class A), NW Thunder Road (Late Model and Mustang), and a Truck series. Tonight was NWTR @ LRP, and we had 5 Late Models and 2 Mustangs. I started 4th, 3rd dropped back and I got passed by 5th, then 3rd tangled with 2nd and went to the pits, and 5th passed me and later I think he jumped too high off the hill and spun because of it and put me 3rd, Then out of the blue I make a 🤬 move and look at the relative "F3" Box, touch the grass and get stuck halfway thru the 🤬 wall! and I came out 4th and made it back to 3rd (no thanks to my setup or my skill ). 2 late models waited it out in the pit so technically I finished last on track in my class. But it was still a blast.

That hill at lime rock is the funniest thing to watch with the late models. For a little while I had a guy behind me and every lap I checked my mirror once I came over the hill and saw this huge pink late model come flying over the hill

 

[ErikAndre71]

That goal is done by now, but I want MOAR!!! . At the moment I'm just waiting until the end of the month for my rookie promotion, my MPR is all set for my rookie license to be upgraded to a D one, but I still want to win a race before I move on .

I think this is where it all goes wrong for a lot of people, winning a rookie series race wont get you no where and by trying you risk a lot and who do you impress? Winning a low split in Rookie.. whohoo you are the master!!

Javier have several times given advice I decided to follow and I started 23 races since I started with iRacing. I'm A-Class licence and my SR is 4.99. iRating is at 1700+ and when I race I have a blast, people around me are in most cases very respectful when racing them. (And I still haven't won a race)

You will meet loonies everywhere, but don't race them. Be patient and in the long run you will avoid racing them because their iRating will only go down when they can't finish their races and in the end they probably be in a lower split than yourself. I sometimes outrace people with an iRating of 4000 and even 6000 because they want to win so bad they end up in the pit with damage to their car.

Racing is about getting your car to the finish line and by time you will be fast enough to be the first guy to cross it. But trying to do so in a Rookie series where a lot of people don't even know how to get around T1 is risky and by no means impressive if you manage it!

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

...but I still want to win a race before I move on .

Take it from experience in real life karting; if you break your steering rod, and almost run over a flag marshall, you don't win. Take your time, as the Norwegian guy said (Eric is his name?)

 

[Kamuifanboy]

We're all in rookie, need I remind you of the Caddy Promo? Recipe for disaster.

Not really. Yes, there are people who technically should not have that powerful of a car with that license level but, it still shouldn't be that hard to finish races. How difficult is it to start from the pits and drive at 90% speed or so for the whole race. Not that hard, not to mention you will probably finish in the top half of the field, if there really are as many crashes as you guys are talking about.

Which I'm still going to say that they are most likely brought upon by your own actions.

 

[babalulu]

Well I placed third in a split of 13 people. And on a not so popular track its been 160 people racing so far and I worked my way into div 4..

So even if I placed 3rd in a race doesn't mean I'm the 3rd fastest in iRacing, so far I'm on 61st place..

And good luck beating me.. this isn't GT5

61th place is not that bad.. i dont think if people who have a natural talent for racing will be affected so much.. since those people can adapt quickly.. its mostly about spending time making a good tune.. learning the tracks inside out.. and with a litle bit of talent your good to go.. i think it would be a good challenge after a while driving against you but im not to worried

& btw ive driven iracing before m8

 

[ErikAndre71]

& btw ive driven iracing before m8

And you quit to play GT5... you gotta be kidding me!

 

[Roush_fan_99]

I honestly think one of the biggest problems is that people rely on their spotter to say "car left" or whatever too much because they have very little situational awareness and sometimes the spotter has a big delay and they just cut you off because they didn't check their mirror or aren't listening to that 2nd car

 

[Maxitsu]

I honestly think one of the biggest problems is that people rely on their spotter to say "car left" or whatever too much because they have very little situational awareness and sometimes the spotter has a big delay and they just cut you off because they didn't check their mirror or aren't listening to that 2nd car

Possible. You actual don't know how hard you can push, You know thereis a car on your side but not how far he is from your car. Its a still a handy tool if you don't have a tripple screen.

 

[Mac K]

Not really. Yes, there are people who technically should not have that powerful of a car with that license level but, it still shouldn't be that hard to finish races. How difficult is it to start from the pits and drive at 90% speed or so for the whole race. Not that hard, not to mention you will probably finish in the top half of the field, if there really are as many crashes as you guys are talking about.

Which I'm still going to say that they are most likely brought upon by your own actions.

I didn't actually specifically mean just the Cadillac, anyone can get 6 months free, that's the recipe for disaster not the car itself. Let's be honest, you don't know and can only make assumptions of what we're telling you on here, for about the hundredth time, I don't go looking for trouble, I keep it clean, and I don't make any stupid or aggressive moves. I've had people literally try to shove off the apex of a corner, run me off the track, etc. So before you say it's brought on by our own actions, I'd appreciate if you actually knew exactly what happened, instead of just guessing.

 

[fatkrakr]

If you want to have some clean racing you need to focus on getting your irating up. I dont worry about my safety rating at all. If I need to go off track to avoid someone I do, If I take a corner a little to hot I dont try to avoid the off track I just keep my car under control and try to not spin on the grass and carry on racing. Once you get your irating up and get in the higher splits your safety rating will come. Having zero incidents in a race is great and all, but if your slowing down and getting off the race pace to avoid that 1x your just asking to get run over from the guy behind you who is still at race speed. Dont sweat the small off track incidents avoid the big accidents. I see people all the time trying to avoid a 1x only to end up off the pace and causing a huge pile up.

 

[bazylfox]

So you're saying that iRacing calculates my iRating and makes me race in lower SOF races?

If my irating will be higher then i'll be racing with higher SOF ?
Is this how it works ?

So why i was racing with SOF >2000 and <1400 ? (my irating is 1600 currently)

 

[babalulu]

And you quit to play GT5... you gotta be kidding me!

at that time i didnt raced in iracing because my pc wasnt good enough.. and i had other things to spend my money on..

 

[fatkrakr]

Yes your irating determines what split your in. The range of peoples irating in a split is because of how many people join the race. The more people that join the closer the iratings in a split will be.