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[Kamuifanboy]

Hey iracers
I raced at mosport last nite and stated 7th made it through turn 1 ok, then I hear car on left and I saw that one coming, but then I move to the right a little and touched tires with the car on the right didn't see that one! Oh ship! I wrecked two cars and myself at turn 2. I felt so bad that I didn't see the car to my right, I guess having three monitors would be better for seeing cars on the sides of you! I got a couple of guys mad at me now!! Not good! Time to save up for three monitors ASAP. Peace

I think just having a button on your wheel to look left and right does the trick. And having the relative box open at all times. I've never felt there was much gain in visibility with 3 monitors.

 

[superbike81]

Most people find the "look left/right" feature annoying at best. It can be useful from time to time for a quick look, but if you use the CORRECT FOV a triple monitor setup is a huge increase in visibility.

Realistically most people using a single monitor "should" be using around a 45 degree FOV. The only way it will be different is if the screen only a few inches from your face. But most people don't think the FOV calculator within iRacing is correct, so they adjust it to what they feel is best. Problem with that is, even though a FOV of 75 or so may "feel" right, it's screwing up your depth perception and the size of things.

Triple screens (or more) is really the only way to use a proper FOV and get good peripheral vision.

One thing about the look left/right feature is it can be adjusted within the app.ini (I think) to how many ever degrees you want to look.

 

[swiftwilly]

Most people find the "look left/right" feature annoying at best. It can be useful from time to time for a quick look, but if you use the CORRECT FOV a triple monitor setup is a huge increase in visibility.

Realistically most people using a single monitor "should" be using around a 45 degree FOV. The only way it will be different is if the screen only a few inches from your face. But most people don't think the FOV calculator within iRacing is correct, so they adjust it to what they feel is best. Problem with that is, even though a FOV of 75 or so may "feel" right, it's screwing up your depth perception and the size of things.

Triple screens (or more) is really the only way to use a proper FOV and get good peripheral vision.

One thing about the look left/right feature is it can be adjusted within the app.ini (I think) to how many ever degrees you want to look.

I am at 68 degrees, Just enough to allow me to see the dashboard. At 45 doesn't allow me to see anything.

I use the left and right buttons though.

 

[superbike81]

I never messed with changing the FOV from what the iRacing calculator suggested. Supposedly, you have a much better feel for the car on the track by using the suggested FOV, and supposedly it can actually make you faster once you get used to it, but I'm sure it's not the same for everyone.

 

[zedfonsie]

I use 55 FOV. 68 makes me feel like the car is driving itself (question mark).

 

[Patrocles]

16 to 22 GMT weekdays

Weekends all day long saturday your time. Not in your SOF though. Yet.

I did some at Oulton. Can someone explain to me where your suppose to safetly pass or let people pass here? There is no room. If I am correct, the width is even smaller than LRP? At least LRP is short so doesn't take long to hit the home straight for a pass.

I think I will drop this week. Oulton just doesn't look safe for the Skip.

I was in a three-way battle at Oulton last night and we were making very safe passes at....looking at map...
T1 and T14
(of course, we were making other passes on each other at various corners and straights when a pilot had an incident)

good luck!

Oulton was so fun for me last season using the baseline setup, but with the NTM I am really struggling with the baseline setup and tweaked setups.
anyone have a good setup to recommend or share?
much appreciated!

 

[Frantikk]

so the other Skip drivers, what you think? Is even starting in the pits a worthwhile strategy for this track? Can't imagine doing pole and having massively aggro/faster cars behind you on this track

I've never understood why one would start from the pits. What's the fun in that? I guess some people are more worried about SR and iRating, but for me they're just an afterthought to racing.

Pole is the safest place to start. Make sure you get a good start and first corner and then the guys behind you should be more concerned with fighting each other for the first couple laps.

You can pass people in several places, practice driving off on different lines so that you will comfortable overtaking. If the guy in front of you is all over the track just wait it out and he'll crash on his own. You can count on a lot of guys crashing here in every split, so being cautious will pay off.

 

[Patrocles]

I've never understood why one would start from the pits. What's the fun in that? I guess some people are more worried about SR and iRating, but for me they're just an afterthought to racing.

Pole is the safest place to start. Make sure you get a good start and first corner and then the guys behind you should be more concerned with fighting each other for the first couple laps.

You can pass people in several places, practice driving off on different lines so that you will comfortable overtaking. If the guy in front of you is all over the track just wait it out and he'll crash on his own. You can count on a lot of guys crashing here in every split, so being cautious will pay off.

Starting from the pit is a very smart strategy by a pilot that understands the field, track and knows his own limitations (and maybe the limitations of other pilots on the grid?). Rather that than some idiot hots**t pilot, instead of putting in practice laps, who can't handle the car or know the track starting right next to your car.

 

[zedfonsie]

I just love lime rock going through the 2nd corner in the mx5 cup . Luckily there was few accidents, I had a guy up my arse and tried to overtake me on the straight, he completely missed his braking point and barreled into the nice comfy ditch

 

[Nastradamus87]

Oulton is so tight you have to be very aggresive to make a pass without the leading car making a major mistake.

Last night I had a race at Oulton. All 14 laps were a three way battle for the lead. There were four lead changes and about eight passes in total among the three of us. Only God knows how we didn't crash into each other. The other two drivers were very aggressive, in one case moving over to shut the door on me when I was already along side them. Our tires made contact and I almost went off the track! Everyone was fighting hard for their position. I took the lead with 4 laps to go. Second made a move in the last corner on the outside and beat me to the line by a hair. What an exciting race that was.

The only corner that I feel is dangerous is T3 (the fast left hander at the end of the front straight). For me this is the only place I can make a move to pass without a mistake by the leading car.

Starting from the pit is a very smart strategy by a pilot that understands the field, track and knows his own limitations (and maybe the limitations of other pilots on the grid?). Rather that than some idiot hots**t pilot, instead of putting in practice laps, who can't handle the car or know the track starting right next to your car.

If I can't out qualify someone like that by several places then I'd say I need more practice laps myself.

 

[Patrocles]

Oulton is so tight you have to be very aggresive to make a pass without the leading car making a major mistake.

Last night I had a race at Oulton. All 14 laps were a three way battle for the lead. There were four lead changes and about eight passes in total among the three of us. Only God knows how we didn't crash into each other. The other two drivers were very aggressive, in one case moving over to shut the door on me when I was already along side them. Our tires made contact and I almost went off the track! Everyone was fighting hard for their position. I took the lead with 4 laps to go. Second made a move in the last corner on the outside and beat me to the line by a hair. What an exciting race that was.

The only corner that I feel is dangerous is T3 (the fast left hander at the end of the front straight). For me this is the only place I can make a move to pass without a mistake by the leading car.



If I can't out qualify someone like that by several places then I'd say I need more practice laps myself.

One of the hallmarks that I see on non-iRacing games pickup racing is that there are many many many pilots who can put in very good laptimes, but have no racecraft. doing hotlaps they can't be touched, but put them on a grid and it is mayhem! LOL

 

[zedfonsie]

^True, in gt5 people can set near perfect laps on the nurburgring (don't know how to spell it ^^) but when you put them in a race and they try to pass, they realize that just clipped the other driver and spun him off the road.

 

[Tuck !]

Hi guys, I just tried the SRF in practice and even went on a race with it. When I lift off the throttle the car massively oversteers, is it possible to not use any throttle braking on that car? As i haven't seen a lot of real life drivers use throttle braking except in rally, I'm not so sure whether throttle braking in the SRF would be realistic... And does the skippy feel like the SRF? I want to move up but the handling of the SRF sort of puts me off...

 

[swiftwilly]

Sounds like you guys are having fun on it. I have decided to drop it and only do it to contend for my time trials. I am going with my gut, like what I hold of done on brands. I am pretty worn out from past few weeks and with the f1 this weekend I think it will do me good and having some nice family time.

 

[Eric.]

I've got the same feelings towards the Summit Point layout they are using this week for the inRacingNews Challenge. It's way too narrow, feels like a autocross course with a couple long straights added.

I try to run iRNC every once in a while in the SRF, but the last time I was going to it was on the Jefferson Circuit. I hadn't raced there yet so went into practice. Holy crap screw that place. Not in that car anyway. I would have wrecked people for sure.

Hi guys, I just tried the SRF in practice and even went on a race with it. When I lift off the throttle the car massively oversteers, is it possible to not use any throttle braking on that car? As i haven't seen a lot of real life drivers use throttle braking except in rally, I'm not so sure whether throttle braking in the SRF would be realistic... And does the skippy feel like the SRF? I want to move up but the handling of the SRF sort of puts me off...

By throttle braking are you talking about downshifting with that method as well (not using the clutch)? I heel-toe that car now after having a lot of problems ending up in neutral from throttle-brake shifting. Otherwise I left foot brake anytime that I won't be shifting. You can brake really hard in a straight line and not worry about lockup, but don't ever take a turn with no throttle. You will spin.

The SRF is hardest car to drive in my opinion because its basically an oversized kart with short suspension travel. So rewarding to get it right though.

 

[Nastradamus87]

Btw, I just ran a race with headphones for the first time last night and it was much better than running the audio through 5.1 sound system. I could hear my tires very clearly, which help with braking. I felt like I could concentrate better as well. Give it a shot if you haven't already.

 

[swiftwilly]

I use 55 FOV. 68 makes me feel like the car is driving itself (question mark).

Well with 55 I can tell you that you cannot see the Skip's dashboard, that is why I race with 68. 68 is the minimum where I can see the dashboard on the car. 68 seems to also work very well for me on all other cars. 45 - 55 just cuts way to much off and I am not interested in ispeed overlay as that just makes it less sim.

I was in a three-way battle at Oulton last night and we were making very safe passes at....looking at map...
T1 and T14
(of course, we were making other passes on each other at various corners and straights when a pilot had an incident)

good luck!

Oulton was so fun for me last season using the baseline setup, but with the NTM I am really struggling with the baseline setup and tweaked setups.
anyone have a good setup to recommend or share?
much appreciated!

What was your average lap time?

I have seen the average lap times and they seem pretty ok enough for me to race but from my past history, I won't ever race without being 100% ready. *cough Brands Hatch -300 irating....

As for setups, I suggest doing one and keeping it the same, also depends how your driving style is on the Skip. I am a NON-twitch/sliding driver, I like it "stable" so I am currently +0SPO, +6ARB, 20 psi for front wheels, 21 psi for rear wheels. This isn't "my" set up, but Ahmed's on Iracing forums whose a super top driver. The "twitch/sliding" setup I would suggest Ian Bevan, but its not my style, you really got to be precise and no offensive to Ian, his record is super hot or super cold and not consistent enough for my liking.

Good luck, let me know if theres anything you want to know about the Skip

 

[Nastradamus87]

Just got rear ended by the SAME somewhat faster driver two races in a row, once in the chicane and another time in the turn following the chicane. Both races I had pole position and he came from mid-grid with no qualifying. It took a bit of willpower not to bash him after the second time... Oh well.

I'm installing windows movie maker now. Once I figure it out I want to put together a highlight compilation of my races up to this point. Does anyone suggest a different program? I'm working with raw FRAPS videos.

 

[superbike81]

Well with 55 I can tell you that you cannot see the Skip's dashboard, that is why I race with 68. 68 is the minimum where I can see the dashboard on the car. 68 seems to also work very well for me on all other cars. 45 - 55 just cuts way to much off and I am not interested in ispeed overlay as that just makes it less sim.

Well, technically, using the incorrect FOV makes it "less sim" as well.

Think about FOV as your window into the real world. Take your screen, or monitor and imagine yourself as sitting in the seat and everything else is blacked out except for that screen. This is why either moving the screen closer or getting something bigger (or both) is the only way to get a decent realistic FOV. This is also why triple screens are so sought after. You basically end up with 3 45 degree screens to give you a nice 120+ (depending how far away you are from them) FOV.

So if you've got a 24" screen 3 or 4 feet away from you (like many people do), you would have to run 45 (or actually less if iRacing allowed it) to see what you would really see in real life.

 

[Roush_fan_99]

So if you've got a 24" screen 3 or 4 feet away from you (like many people do), you would have to run 45 (or actually less if iRacing allowed it) to see what you would really see in real life.

i know this isn't the best way to solve this but I'm curious if you actually used a full face racing helmet when using the sim with the 45 you suggested would also cut out the gain in peripheral of 45 vs 70 degree FOV (that's what I use)

Or is that just stupid and absurd and I'm trying to solve a problem that hasn't been created yet

 

[superbike81]

Haha, well I haven't went as far as wearing a helmet while I play, but that could be interesting. Maybe we could implement "sim" HANS devices too to restrict head movement as well.

 

[Roush_fan_99]

Lol, they make one now I think it's called the sport model or something like that. I have one and it has the two ends on a tethered rope thing and allows you to move your head side to side quite well, but a hard sneeze is still very violent with one on

 

[Tuck !]

By throttle braking are you talking about downshifting with that method as well (not using the clutch)? I heel-toe that car now after having a lot of problems ending up in neutral from throttle-brake shifting. Otherwise I left foot brake anytime that I won't be shifting. You can brake really hard in a straight line and not worry about lockup, but don't ever take a turn with no throttle. You will spin.

The SRF is hardest car to drive in my opinion because its basically an oversized kart with short suspension travel. So rewarding to get it right though.

By that I mean left foot braking and throttling at the same time. My braking is done with heel-toe as well. Is it the same case in most other cars such that once you let off the throttle you will most likely spin? Glad to hear that it's the hardest car... I just can't drive fast laps with that car! Hopefully the skip will be at least a little better...

 

[swiftwilly]

Seems Oulton has some pretty high SOFs.

 

[isamu]

After driving Mosport last week and now Oulton in the Skippy, I can say that Oulton is an easier track to drive. I'm still way off the pace, but I can see myself getting better at that track with enough practice. It seems a bit easier to manage drifts than on Mosport, and of course OP doesn't have that diabolical downhill the way Mosport does.

 

[swiftwilly]

After driving Mosport last week and now Oulton in the Skippy, I can say that Oulton is an easier track to drive. I'm still way off the pace, but I can see myself getting better at that track with enough practice. It seems a bit easier to manage drifts than on Mosport, and of course OP doesn't have that diabolical downhill the way Mosport does.

Totally respect your opinion, I think its just interesting how people have different view on tracks etc. I love Mosport, has to be one of my fav tracks and I ended up only 1s away from world record yet on Oulton I just can't seem to find the speed (probably because I haven't spent enough time on it), but I also think theres heaps more dangerous areas on Oulton, the tyre walls are just nasty in that S for a collision, T1, T2 and even T3 I hate, last 2 turns also are nasty.

Anyway, good luck isamu! What sort of lap times are you getting?

 

[livemusic]

Btw, I just ran a race with headphones for the first time last night and it was much better than running the audio through 5.1 sound system. I could hear my tires very clearly, which help with braking. I felt like I could concentrate better as well. Give it a shot if you haven't already.

Yeah I always use headphones too, way better.

Though I'd have to anyway since my girlfriend hates when I play games with the sound through the home theater.

Just got rear ended by the SAME somewhat faster driver two races in a row, once in the chicane and another time in the turn following the chicane. Both races I had pole position and he came from mid-grid with no qualifying. It took a bit of willpower not to bash him after the second time... Oh well.

I'm installing windows movie maker now. Once I figure it out I want to put together a highlight compilation of my races up to this point. Does anyone suggest a different program? I'm working with raw FRAPS videos.

Do you remember the name of this driver? I did a race at Oulton last night and the driver who won it started on P10, he was very agressive for such a narrow track, and pretty fast too.

Overall it was a good race, I finished in 4th.

About Windows Movie Maker, it's pretty simple to use. Just drag your video files into it, try some editing and effects, then use the Youtube button they have. It will automatically convert the video to a much smaller file and upload it into your YT account.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

Btw, I just ran a race with headphones for the first time last night and it was much better than running the audio through 5.1 sound system. I could hear my tires very clearly, which help with braking. I felt like I could concentrate better as well. Give it a shot if you haven't already.

I bought some Turtle Beach headphones last year when doing the TT part of GT Academy. I needed to block out some external noises that were distracting me. My times went down and I've never driven without them again.

I HIGHLY recommend any competitive sim racer to get a good set of headphones. Total immersion is critical to speed and consistency.

Cheers!

 

[isamu]

Totally respect your opinion, I think its just interesting how people have different view on tracks etc. I love Mosport, has to be one of my fav tracks and I ended up only 1s away from world record yet on Oulton I just can't seem to find the speed (probably because I haven't spent enough time on it), but I also think theres heaps more dangerous areas on Oulton, the tyre walls are just nasty in that S for a collision, T1, T2 and even T3 I hate, last 2 turns also are nasty.

Anyway, good luck isamu! What sort of lap times are you getting?

I am getting an average of 1:54 at Oulton!! Beat THAT! Go on I dare you to beat it Swift! No one can top that I'm the BEST!!!


(obvious sarcasm)

 

[Ru-fus]

I bought some Turtle Beach headphones last year when doing the TT part of GT Academy. I needed to block out some external noises that were distracting me. My times went down and I've never driven without them again.

I HIGHLY recommend any competitive sim racer to get a good set of headphones. Total immersion is critical to speed and consistency.

Cheers!

Also agree with using headphones, I have Turtle Beach's but prefer using my Sennheiser headphones, really does help you focus and get 'in the zone' while racing 👍