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I don't even play skyrim and I still got that, lol, that's a first for hearing that on this forum for me :lol: (sorry for being off topic)
 
I wonder what game that is from....:P

I just saw the prelim picks for Mp4..looks so damn fine. Possibly GT races of Corv, Ford and MP4? Whats going to happen to the HPD I wonder...
 
That's gonna be a must buy for me! When is is supposed to come out? The article I read said it was announced sept 2011, so a year? Or 2 from then?
 
Here AGAIN, you have proven that you just have no idea again...

1. Anyone who has raced at Road Atlanta will know that 1x on this track is very easy to get, especially if your pushing fast times. On that track, its actually quite easy to do 2x PER lap (of even 3x per lap if you count the last corner) if you cut corners here and there and not getting a slow down penalty, it actually works to benefit you. (I almost won a race by getting a 1x in a corner and increasing my exit speed).

2. You weren't there, how would you know?

3. Turn 1, I got a 4x from a guy coming off the grass and going into my side. Turn 2 I got another 4x from a rear end. Massively aggro drivers in a very tight space, had like 4 people going into a turn together. Insane from top drivers. I had to pit to fix my car and I was well behind

4. Trying to catch back up I did purposely get a few 1x to cut some corners (tactical) as I don't want to go past D Class anyway. Racing in the Skip, D Class gives you an advantage with free tow. I have no current intention to race in any other series.

5. In the higher SOF, I managed to get to 4th actually from a full lap down (I am car #14 remember). However, not learning from experience, I pushed too hard and I spun out. A stayed still of course, a few cars drove past however I knew a hit was coming up since I was parked on top of a hill after turn 1 (quite hard to see and to slow down coming into it) and someone hit me for another 4x, big contact or something.


Why do you keep bugging me about time trails? YOU DONT READ MY POSTS. I told you, because of work/life I can only do time trails as I can do them anytime as opposed to racing at certain times A and B. my god.....do you talk to people without listening to? Also, I am currently no.1 and I got a good feeling of winning the time trail championships. You haven't won any championship in iracing so you don't know how it feels to be in contention of it and to keep the others behind you.

Wow, you are taking this way too personally, calm down. I wasn't even going to entertain your post, but since you decided to claim your superiority over me at the end of your post, I felt compelled to respond in kind.

1) Doesn't matter what track it is, 19 incidents in a 20 lap race is downright embarassing. Looking at the stats you had almost double the incidents of the next lowest person (10 incidents). The leader had one incident, ONE. If it's so impossible to finish a race without almost 20 incidents, how did everyone else in that race do it?

2) I don't have to be there to know. That's what the lap chart is there for, I can see each lap that you had incidents enough to get a decent idea of what was going on.

3) No one else seemed to have this "aggro" so instead of whining about how you are always the victim, maybe change your style so you can avoid these 10+ incident races you seem to have.

4) Why are you so concerned with the fast tow? You shouldn't be crashing your car often enough to have to worry about it. You don't have any intention of racing in any other series, yet you say you hate the Skip Barber car? Doesn't make any sense, but if you are a glutton for punishment have at it.

5) Again, as someone else in this thread said, ~1400 is not a high SOF race. It's still considered low SOF, although it might be higher than what you and I normally get, it's not high by any means. It's great that you made it back up to 4th, and it's good that you can admit you made a mistake, but with how much you race that same car over and over again, you shouldn't be making mistakes like that any more.


I'm not "bugging you" about time trials, you may think I am, I'm simply pointing out that the only time you don't complain about iRacing is when you are talking about time trials, so maybe something needs to change on your end. You can't keep blaming everyone except yourself for your screw ups when it comes to racing with other cars on the track. You can do whatever race you want to, you CHOOSE not to do other races, and that's fine, but stop acting like you are a victim of iRacing's scheduling, they aren't out to get you. You choose to race certain races because you don't want to try any other cars, that's your fault, not iRacing's.

Now, let's get this straight here, you and I have nearly identical road iRatings. But the difference is, I race multiple different cars and different series in both road and oval. You almost exclusively race the Skip, if you were as good as you think you are, you would absolutely be destroying me in iRating right now. Bragging about leading the DIVISION 6 TIME TRIALS bracket is completely ridiculous. So you are the best amongst the bottom 40% of Skip Barber drivers who care about Time Trials (very few people on iRacing bother with Time Trials). Yeah that makes you so much better than me.

If I actually cared about winning useless low division championships, I would focus on one car as well, but I enjoy driving all different types of cars in this game, and I will continue to drive more and more now that I am a 100% content owner. If you truly focus on one series, you have no excuse to be below 2000 iRating.

With that being said, stop picking everything out that I say as a personal attack towards you, I don't know why you are seeing it that way. You whine more than just about anyone else who has posted in this thread, I've even had other members PM me asking me if I know why some of you guys are so whiny about this game.

I guess you just take it much more seriously than I do, but don't get so butthurt about this game, and don't try calling me out on my performance when we've got almost the same iRating. This game is called iRacing not iTT'ing.

Final thought:

RELAX

edit: final final thought: let's try to keep this friendly, my intentions were to help you, there were no hidden agendas even though you feel I was trying to attack you with my comments about your efforts in Time Trials. Simple fact is I used it as a possible explanation as to why you were having difficulties in your racing endeavors. You chose to take it as a personal attack and then misguidedly attack my iRacing skills which yielded the response you see above.
 
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edit: final final thought: let's try to keep this friendly, my intentions were to help you, there were no hidden agendas even though you feel I was trying to attack you with my comments about your efforts in Time Trials. Simple fact is I used it as a possible explanation as to why you were having difficulties in your racing endeavors. You chose to take it as a personal attack and then misguidedly attack my iRacing skills which yielded the response you see above.


Once again, your point falls flat on its face. I may be in division 6 for tt's but I am overall 38th out of ALL SKIP racers in the time trails. Given that I have only raced 7, some raced 8, some raced 6, who is going to argue, so I am 38th right now. That is pretty dam good given that this is the Skip and that I have been racing for about 2 months or so. Given your tt rating of 800ish, you'd be in div 10? Who cares if you race multiple cars - it just means your bad in every car, your irating and tt rating are both lower than me and the Skip is the most difficult car there is right now or AT LEAST top 3 etc. Go argue somewhere else. If I am bad, your worse. End of story.

I can tell you that all your replies have come across me as if you were looking down on me. Regardless of whether that was your intentions.

To be honest superbike, lets go beyond friendly, please stop replying or referring to my posts and I will do the same to yours. Just pretend you and I don't exist in each others worlds and that'll make my day.

Lets see how much of a "man" you are and see if you reply to this given my above proposal. I won't be replying to your posts anymore.
 
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Well, it's too bad you feel that way, stop thinking of yourself as a victim being bullied and get over your own huge ego and accept that someone might actually be trying to help you.

I won't ignore your posts, I will continue to respond, because I don't yet feel you are a lost cause. You can choose to ignore them and not respond in kind if you like, doesn't matter to me either way. I'll still continue to try to give you friendly advice regardless if you take it that way or not.
 
Well, it's too bad you feel that way, stop thinking of yourself as a victim being bullied and get over your own huge ego and accept that someone might actually be trying to help you.

I won't ignore your posts, I will continue to respond, because I don't yet feel you are a lost cause. You can choose to ignore them and not respond in kind if you like, doesn't matter to me either way. I'll still continue to try to give you friendly advice regardless if you take it that way or not.

Like how we give a cent on how much you love oval racing? 👎

You think its friendly, I think its offensive. But hey, as long as you think your helping thats all that matters right? Who cares about how others feel? (and you think I am the one with the ego). 👎

I even HAPPILY suggested that we stop speaking to each other which I am sure everyone else here agrees. And guess what? your ego is to big to stop "helping" me out. just wow superbike, wow....superfail buddy.

I'll keep to my word don't worry. For the sake of all other GTP posters here.

(Getting ready for another famous superbike egotistical posting about how great he is and how crap I am!)
 
Once again, your point falls flat on its face. I may be in division 6 for tt's but I am overall 38th out of ALL SKIP racers in the time trails. Given that I have only raced 7, some raced 8, some raced 6, who is going to argue, so I am 38th right now. That is pretty dam good given that this is the Skip and that I have been racing for about 2 months or so. Given your tt rating of 800ish, you'd be in div 10? Who cares if you race multiple cars - it just means your bad in every car, your irating and tt rating are both lower than me and the Skip is the most difficult car there is right now or AT LEAST top 3 etc. Go argue somewhere else. If I am bad, your worse. End of story.

I can tell you that all your replies have come across me as if you were looking down on me. Regardless of whether that was your intentions.

To be honest superbike, lets go beyond friendly, please stop replying or referring to my posts and I will do the same to yours. Just pretend you and I don't exist in each others worlds and that'll make my day.

Lets see how much of a "man" you are and see if you reply to this given my above proposal. I won't be replying to your posts anymore.

My TT rating is low because I only use TT's to get a few extra SR points when I am close to a whole point number. I drive slowly and just do laps. You can feel free to cross reference my race lap times with my TT lap times to verify. I joined the game iRacing to race other people, not to do hotlaps.

Given that you say I'm "bad with all cars" I guess that would mean you are bad with the Skip right? Since our iRatings are so similar? Mine might be "lower" than yours now, but you know as well as anyone that iRating can fluctuate by a couple hundred on any given week. Also given the fact that I haven't been racing for position and have simply been racing to get my license class up to A in both road and oval, I'd say my iRating is doing pretty decent. So what's your excuse for not having a 2000+ iRating? Being that your last 30+ events have all been in the SBRS?

Skip is the Top 3 most difficult cars? You are basing that on what? You've driven the MX5 and the Skip, and suddenly you know what every other car in the service is like? LOL. I'm not saying it isn't a fairly difficult car to master, but you are acting like you are some kind of know-it-all based on your what, 2 month membership?
 
Like how we give a cent on how much you love oval racing? 👎

You think its friendly, I think its offensive. But hey, as long as you think your helping thats all that matters right? Who cares about how others feel? (and you think I am the one with the ego). 👎

I even HAPPILY suggested that we stop speaking to each other which I am sure everyone else here agrees. And guess what? your ego is to big to stop "helping" me out. just wow superbike, wow....superfail buddy.

I'll keep to my word don't worry. For the sake of all other GTP posters here.

(Getting ready for another famous superbike egotistical posting about how great he is and how crap I am!)

More fun posts from William Wu, good times....

I praise oval racing because not many people from a road racing background give it a chance. I freely admitted that I had been wrong to be biased against oval racing for so long, and I am simply trying to get a few other people to expand their horizons.

I like how you say "we" as if your opinion is the collective thoughts of everyone in the iRacing thread. Actually if you look back, I have been extremely helpful to everyone, you are the only one who takes offense to my kindness.

Once again, you attack my skill level, it's funny that I don't even try to win races, yet my iRating is still at this moment only ~30 lower than yours. You spend hours and hours with the same car and still haven't been able to get a consistent Top 5 finish. I start from the pits or the back of the pack since I don't qualify, race only for SR to fast track my license, and I still have more than a 50% top 5 finish percentage. Just wait until I start qualifying and actually trying to win races.

I wish you the best of luck, I really do, I hope you absolutely demolish my iRating, but I just hope you start having more fun with the game instead of getting so frustrated all the time. It's just a game (or call it a sim if you like) it's supposed to be there for entertainment, and if you aren't being entertained, you should maybe re-evaluate how you are playing the game.

Hopefully one day you'll realize that there are other cars out there besides the SBRS and maybe one day we'll get to race. No animosity from this side, hopefully you'll be able to restrain your obvious rage towards me.

"Superfail?" Really? You can't come up with something a little more intelligent than that? It might just be the internet, but try to at least sound slightly intelligent.
 
Just wondering, except for these last few posts (which I was in defend/counter-attack mode), does anyone view the advice that I was offering to Swiftwilly as offensive in any way? Serious question, I thought I was offering friendly, but straight to the point, advice but it's obvious he sees it differently.

Have I offended anyone else in my efforts to give advice on this game that I have enjoyed on/off for the past 4 years? I've never pretended to be an expert or to be the best at this game, but I have been around the block a few times, so I know some of the smaller intricacies that many of the newer people may not have figured out yet and I like to share with others.

All I'm trying to do is share the knowledge that I have obtained through my experiences in iRacing, as well as the collective experience of others that I have obtained through the iRacing forums. But if my posts are viewed as harsh or offensive by most people, I'll change my tone of course.
 
Had a decent day in the Riley running the Grand Am Premier series. First race I finished 10th in a 3500+ iRated race. Then in the evening finished 2nd in 2xxx something iRating. Currently 13th in points after 2 rounds, but a whopping 200+ behind the leader.

Running the Riley at Barber is madness. In a good way. I wasn't a fan of Barber, but its grown me. Very technical track with a good variety of corners. The Riley is very edgy there. At least when you're trying to keep up with the aliens. They were running very low wing and spoiler settings like Daytona. Also very soft springs and low front ride heights with radical shock settings. Basically with these settings the car don't like curbs, bottoms out alot, and with low downforce it makes it a handful at anything over 60mph. Did I mention that its fun? Lots of fun.

Sucks to hear some of you guys having a rough go in your races. Maybe watch your replays and see what you could have done differently to avoid that situation if anything could've been done. With my experience so far in iRacing, the ones who believe its everyone elses fault are almost always equally at fault. Sounds rude, but its really not. I personally enjoy the system and think it works just fine.

Just because there is a sporting code and rules for the car overtaking/car being overtaken does not mean everyone follows them. You have to be aware of the car behind you just as much as the ones in front. Its better to lose one position than be sitting in pits or quitting out. If you are truly faster, then you'll get back around them. Also playing defense, while its all fair and legal, usually ends in tears. I myself don't do the defensive driving mainly because you lose more time that way than just letting the following car pass.

I started iRacing last June and have enjoyed every minute of it. I've had my ups and downs, but mostly up. Last year in 6 months I won 17 of my 70 some races on road. So far this year, a big fat goose egg. Why do I bring this up you say? Because last year I was in lower iRated races(below 2000). Now I'm racing the Riley/C6.R and its alot tougher. Not to mention iRated races of around 3000 and up. Now I'm happy with top 5's and if there is a reasonable chance for a win I'll go for it. Very humbling when you start racing some of the aliens on iracing(I'm not an alien, above avg yes).
 
Just wondering, except for these last few posts (which I was in defend/counter-attack mode), does anyone view the advice that I was offering to Swiftwilly as offensive in any way?

No.

Your posts have reflected my thoughts pretty well superbike81.
 
3500+ SOF is pretty damn insane...
I agree with your points though plate, I find 50/50 of my races are my own mistake or others, but not in a single race. I had 1 race this week where I spun out, and I had another race was due to others.
 
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Had a decent day in the Riley running the Grand Am Premier series. First race I finished 10th in a 3500+ iRated race. Then in the evening finished 2nd in 2xxx something iRating. Currently 13th in points after 2 rounds, but a whopping 200+ behind the leader.

Running the Riley at Barber is madness. In a good way. I wasn't a fan of Barber, but its grown me. Very technical track with a good variety of corners. The Riley is very edgy there. At least when you're trying to keep up with the aliens. They were running very low wing and spoiler settings like Daytona. Also very soft springs and low front ride heights with radical shock settings. Basically with these settings the car don't like curbs, bottoms out alot, and with low downforce it makes it a handful at anything over 60mph. Did I mention that its fun? Lots of fun.

Sucks to hear some of you guys having a rough go in your races. Maybe watch your replays and see what you could have done differently to avoid that situation if anything could've been done. With my experience so far in iRacing, the ones who believe its everyone elses fault are almost always equally at fault. Sounds rude, but its really not. I personally enjoy the system and think it works just fine.

Just because there is a sporting code and rules for the car overtaking/car being overtaken does not mean everyone follows them. You have to be aware of the car behind you just as much as the ones in front. Its better to lose one position than be sitting in pits or quitting out. If you are truly faster, then you'll get back around them. Also playing defense, while its all fair and legal, usually ends in tears. I myself don't do the defensive driving mainly because you lose more time that way than just letting the following car pass.

I started iRacing last June and have enjoyed every minute of it. I've had my ups and downs, but mostly up. Last year in 6 months I won 17 of my 70 some races on road. So far this year, a big fat goose egg. Why do I bring this up you say? Because last year I was in lower iRated races(below 2000). Now I'm racing the Riley/C6.R and its alot tougher. Not to mention iRated races of around 3000 and up. Now I'm happy with top 5's and if there is a reasonable chance for a win I'll go for it. Very humbling when you start racing some of the aliens on iracing(I'm not an alien, above avg yes).

I used to enjoy running the Riley about a year ago when I last raced with it on my old shared account. So far on my new account I've only ran it in test sessions trying to get a feel for it, but I think it will be a car I'll get hooked on again and will start running it a lot. As soon as I get my A license in both road and oval (both B now) I'll start racing for real. How many splits has the Daytona been getting? My iRating is below 1300 now, but I think once I start racing consistently I'll be in the 1600-1700 range, are there currently splits low enough to where someone with a ~1300 iRating would be competitive for a Top 5? Or is it all pretty high SOF normally? I know I could go look myself, just thought I would ask the opinion of someone who has been in both splits over the course of a couple seasons.
 
LOL, I was preparing for Laguna this week and I saw this.

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My cars pic isn't even on there, mines usually in the gravel pit :sly:

Laguna is my worst track. Was in GT5, still is now.

Cannot wait for Suzuka....just cannot wait....
 
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I'm very interested to see if they release the newest tire model update with the S2 package in late-April.

If it does correctly what they are saying it will do with accurate tire vulcanization many people are in for a rude awakening. The way many people are driving, constantly sliding the cars, will absolutely destroy the tires after only a few laps. Of course in real life there is a certain amount of slip angle being explored, but much more controlled and limited than what I see some of the fast guys in iRacing doing. Another big one that will bite A LOT of rookies right in the butt is tire flatspotting. I hope they implement flatspotting, because then all the stupid "late brake heroes" can pay for their ignorance with flatspotted tires.
 
Oh, and for the new people trying to decide what series they want to race next, there is a ongoing thread at the iRacing forums about weekly participation in each series, amongst other things as well. The thread can be found here:

http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/1469002.page

Within this page are individual links to spreadsheets that are updated regularly and show an accurate reflection of how many people are participating in each series.
 
He also had 19 incidents. I have never seen someone have 19 incidents in such a short race that could all be blamed on someone else, so he was having his own problems this race as well, not just a couple contacts due to other drivers.

Like I said, I think Swifty is spoiling himself with time trials. They are great for competition and great for learning optimal racing lines, but I think they can also give you the false sense of security that the optimal line will always be available. This is why open practices are such a valuable tool, you can go learn racecraft with others on the track without worrying about your SR and iR.

well said! 19 incidents is high! :crazy: I am not a good pilot and I usually end up with 5-10 incidents (90% my own fault for running off-track! :ouch: ).
 
Just wondering, except for these last few posts (which I was in defend/counter-attack mode), does anyone view the advice that I was offering to Swiftwilly as offensive in any way? Serious question, I thought I was offering friendly, but straight to the point, advice but it's obvious he sees it differently.

Have I offended anyone else in my efforts to give advice on this game that I have enjoyed on/off for the past 4 years? I've never pretended to be an expert or to be the best at this game, but I have been around the block a few times, so I know some of the smaller intricacies that many of the newer people may not have figured out yet and I like to share with others.

All I'm trying to do is share the knowledge that I have obtained through my experiences in iRacing, as well as the collective experience of others that I have obtained through the iRacing forums. But if my posts are viewed as harsh or offensive by most people, I'll change my tone of course.

Your post has some good pointers for all of us!
👍

ok, everyone, group hug and let's go racing!!!
:)
 
Just wondering, except for these last few posts (which I was in defend/counter-attack mode), does anyone view the advice that I was offering to Swiftwilly as offensive in any way? Serious question, I thought I was offering friendly, but straight to the point, advice but it's obvious he sees it differently.

Have I offended anyone else in my efforts to give advice on this game that I have enjoyed on/off for the past 4 years? I've never pretended to be an expert or to be the best at this game, but I have been around the block a few times, so I know some of the smaller intricacies that many of the newer people may not have figured out yet and I like to share with others.

All I'm trying to do is share the knowledge that I have obtained through my experiences in iRacing, as well as the collective experience of others that I have obtained through the iRacing forums. But if my posts are viewed as harsh or offensive by most people, I'll change my tone of course.
100% with you Superbike81 👍

This back and forth has reminded me of a fortune cookie from a while back. "An expert is someone who knows so much about so little".

It is a bummer to hear people having issues with aggressive drivers and sad to hear people are frustrated to the point that they won't continue their membership. I've had a few unlucky races where I get the short end of the stick by getting caught up in a wreck or hit from behind but for the majority I still really enjoy iRacing.

Oh and I'm pretty sure you guys are all better than me but I have a lot of fun with iRacing and fun is all I'm looking to get out of it.
 
Just realized that the higher SOF races are bad for me, was in a 2k SOF race and it was horrible, came in last with quite a few incidents, though I could have finished a bit better if not for a clumsy mistake at the start which snowballed into bigger mistakes at the end due to a slightly damaged car. Better luck next time I guess.
 
superbike, I don't think your initial advice was offensive or anything. However, I can understand from Swift's point of view why he would get frustrated. As he explained, he had to take on a lot of 1x during his race. Plus, his time zone might be tricky. I know when I'm online I've never ever seen Swifty racing (otherwise I would've watched).

I think he's doing pretty well and winning races. But I think you're giving great advice in regards to doing open practice sessions.

I can see this from both sides is what I'm trying to say
 
He said he had to take on a lot of 1x, but in my opinion for the wrong reason, cutting the tracks in places where he wont get black flagged? Borderline cheating. Just because no black flag comes out doesn't make it right.

Oh and my iRating is 1423 thanks.
 
I've never run Road Atlanta but I know at Spa you can get 1x hits just for looking at the track wrong. I had to practice a ton to produce clean laps. But I know an alien (SCott M, Grand Am champion) who hates to do Spa due to being forced to incur 1x to compete.
 
I disagree. If you have to go offtrack in order to be competitive you're doing it wrong.

During the South American week of the Intel GT Series I was amazed at how Hugo Luis would win every race he joined with laps a second faster than the second fastest driver and in all of them he had 0x incidents.
 
I just noticed in Willy's last race that the winner went off track.

I don't have an opinion one way or another because on road courses I'm usually not fast enough to win anyways :indiff:

And I'd lose to the winner whether they go off track or not

I disagree. If you have to go offtrack in order to be competitive you're doing it wrong.

During the South American week of the Intel GT Series I was amazed at how Hugo Luis would win every race he joined with laps a second faster than the second fastest driver and in all of them he had 0x incidents.

In my example I was referring to the Daytona Prototype btw (last season Scott M ~ Grand Am Champion)

UPdate, just to make sure I'm not misquoting Scott M I found it right fast. From Grand Am Track discussion:

My thoughts on this schedule are that it would be fun but I hate SPA because of the 1x's, if they fixed that I would love that track.

Besides Spa is a wonderful track that sucks for iRacing because of all the 1x's. We don't need it. If someone doesn't care about SR they can gain an advantage on track by going off course. I think it's a unfair advantage to someone with a high SR.

From Willy's description Road Atlanta sounded similar.
 
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Not trying to make this a me vs Swiftwilly thing. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't being overly abrasive when giving out what I believe to be good advice.

We can drop it now, I'll continue on as I have been, as it doesn't seem to be truly offending anyone else, and hopefully he can understand that it wasn't ever my intention to offend him.

On to S1 W9!
 
I disagree. If you have to go offtrack in order to be competitive you're doing it wrong.

During the South American week of the Intel GT Series I was amazed at how Hugo Luis would win every race he joined with laps a second faster than the second fastest driver and in all of them he had 0x incidents.

Earlier this year I did the SSCA Spa 2.4 and the guy who finished 2nd in that race did it with 0 incidents! 0 incidents on a 2.4 hr race at Spa, that's just mindblowing and to do it in the HPD while beign competitive all race long is just crazy!
But I do agree the track limits on Spa could be a bit more leniant.
 
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