Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?
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So you go to hamburger restaurant. Lets say you find french fries too greesy and you complain. Then someone else comes up and say 'Hey, you're here for hamberger, not french fries. This restaurant makes best hamburgers. If you have no complains about hamburger then shut up.' Do you really think this makes sense? What you're doing is obvious pun with a word 'driving game'. Of course it's a driving game. But there's a lot more contents in it than just driving.
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- Sohvakettu
That's the thing: it's a driving game. It should do the game part as well as it does the driving. There are more accurate simulators in the market. I bought GT5 as a game.
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Mysterious R
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I don't think your english makes enough sense for me to understand what you just said.
Driving game.
Hint: Driving in a game, hence driving is the game. Menus are just a prelude to the game.
The age of true gaming fans is really coming to an end huh.
Driving game.
Hint: Driving in a game, hence driving is the game. Menus are just a prelude to the game.
The age of true gaming fans is really coming to an end huh.
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- Booosted3G
I'll admit that I thought the game was gonna be better than it is, but I still think it's a great game. It's like hearing all this hype about a movie that came out and everyone you talked to said it was great. You go to see the movie with really huge expectations and realize it wasn't as good as you thought it would be. Now imagine if you had watched it without hearing anything about it, you'd probably like it alot more. Same idea here.
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Overall, I would say I am not disappointed, but the game needs major improvements.
My lastest issue is with the physics being too simple/easy when going offline/off-track (at tracks like Monza, Laguna seca, etc). I see people and myself go off track into the gravel traps and they/I lose no time, position, or momentum! very poor coding or design decision to keep everyone in the race?
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I think its PD trying to find the balance between giving us all the eye candy the PS3 can provide or giving up some of the memory hogging graphics eye candy to improve on the actual racing in the game by just focusing on more cars on the grid and AI to promote more exciting racing in the game.
But it will always be hard to find the balance to keep every fan base happy specially adding the corporate heads from Sony telling PD other things to do 'cuz they think they know better. Can't make everyone happy is all I can say. As for me I would rather have less eye candy with highly detailed car interiors, smoke effects, skidmarks, backup lights, 3D trees and have better AI, physics, damage and most importantly lots of cars on the grid for close and exciting racing. Then again that is probably why they call it a driving simulation not a racing simulator game.
But it will always be hard to find the balance to keep every fan base happy specially adding the corporate heads from Sony telling PD other things to do 'cuz they think they know better. Can't make everyone happy is all I can say. As for me I would rather have less eye candy with highly detailed car interiors, smoke effects, skidmarks, backup lights, 3D trees and have better AI, physics, damage and most importantly lots of cars on the grid for close and exciting racing. Then again that is probably why they call it a driving simulation not a racing simulator game.
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The game itself isnt a disappointment for me. Fact is, if this game had come out after say 2 years, itd be a great game. 5 years however is far too long for such a small step forward. The ONLY thing in the game that feels like it actually is he product of that much time, is the physics.
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Ok. As far as I understand, your point is complaining about non-driving issues in a driving game is ridiculous. And I made an example to show how ignorant your point of view is. If you still can't understand, it's your misfortune.
Destinkeys
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I'm not disappointed, although I'm getting really bored of all the grinding
Why would becoming bored NOT be disappointing?
Mysterious R
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Ok. As far as I understand, your point is complaining about non-driving issues in a driving game is ridiculous. And I made an example to show how ignorant your point of view is. If you still can't understand, it's your misfortune.
Well ok, after reading it five more times i got the gist of it, but what you don't get is: I went to a 'Hamburger restaurant' for hamburgers and now i'm complaining about french fries. I went to GT5 for it being the best driving experience that a console has to offer and it hasn't dissapointed me in that aspect.
It's just the same again, complaining about the french fries that came with your burger, you here for the burger the french fries are just a side.
Destinkeys
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'Potential' means currently unrealized. And this is what drives the disappointment. Most of us didn't buy the game knowing it was going to be terrible, and MAYBE PD will turn it into something better than GT4....
That's all we expected. That GT5 be better than GT4. It isn't. Not by a LONG shot (see my sig). Adding Seasonals that quickly disappear does NOT bring up the A-Spec/B-Spec ratio. They should be ADDED to the game, so someone buying this game in six months hasn't missed a boatload of events.
If you want a great 'potential' game, try GT6. GT5 is NOW...
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If french fries is the thing that comes with hamburger, then what about the cars you drive with. Is that a non-driving issue? What about such a long process to get to next racing? Is that also a non-driving issue?
Destinkeys
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Then why is all the 'driving' done on race tracks? You know, if 'driving' were the only thing?
If a REAL racing league had such illogical rules, and an illogical progression path, it would be quickly abandoned by the drivers in favor of one that DIDN'T.
Driving? PLEASE! This is supposed to be a RACING game...
Destinkeys
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Actually, no... It's like going to a hyped SEQUEL, which you have every expectation of being as good as the previous episode. Then it sucks at many, many different levels (although being a BIT better at some).
Maybe you believe the hype, maybe you don't. But you watched the previous movie. If this one doesn't match up, it doesn't MATTER if you trusted the hype or not. You trusted your MEMORY.
And the director let you down.
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I you are going to make an analogy out of menus in GT5 and burgers it's more like:
I went to a burger joint for a burger and the parking lot had 3 narrow spaces which made parking take forever and was a total pain to get right, then the entrance was not well marked and difficult to get to, then it was a huge flight of steep stairs to get to the restaraunt only to find out at the top you have to go back to the bottom, get a number for service, then return to the top to order.
Then when you order there aren't many tables and most of them aren't very comforotable or have a good view, then when the burger comes all the condiments are hard to access with tops that are a pain to open, tiny packets of kethcup so small you must open dozens and it's all laid out in a very odd way that you have to keep getting up and walking around the restaraunt over and over to get each thing you need to just enjoy your burger.
But the burger itself was good.
That's the point I think he's making... menus aren't the driving portion of the game but they are a mandatory part to get to the driving part of the game just like parking, entering the restaraunt, placing an order and loading up your burger are mandatory parts of enjoying the burger. And as such if they are bad, they ruin the overall experience.
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- machschnel
Ha..... I'm mature. I want to drive the X2010 in the driving game (remember how you mentioned driving?). In no way can I achieve this without dealing with Gran Turismo 5's myriad problems.
If the game was set out like Simbin's GTR, where within a few clicks you can be on any track, with any car, there wouldn't be an issue. Yes, the driving physics are commendable (for a console anyhow), but the game doesn't load from the PS3 desktop screen to the exact track and car I want does it?
Since when has gaming had anything to do with maturity. I'd say that people under 18 make up the majority of GT5 owners. I say owners rather than players because "kids" will give up playing something when it's not fun, unlike your mature self who it seems is trying to justify a monetary purchase, rather than seeing the forest from the trees.
Gran Tursimo 5 is not fun.
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I went to GT5, and I know I'm not the only one, with the (reasonable) expectation that it would be of the same level of quality as all of its predecessors were.
That makes this little bit:
Quite frankly, dumb.
This is a Gran Turismo game first, everything else second. It doesn't matter if the physics engine is pretty good if everything else has fallen to pieces in the process. The GT series isn't about being a true merciless simulator like a hardcore PC sim. It never has been in the past, the engine in GT5 isn't good enough to claim it is now, and 13 years after the start of the series is quite a bit too late to completely change the focus of the series without warning.
I didn't buy this game to have a 100% recreation of car physics and damn everything else. Not after 3 years of hype where the physics were probably the least mentioned feature. Not when I own games on the PC that do a better job of that than GT5 does anyways. And not when previous games in the series treated physics as being just as important as the actual game bits not being terrible. I bought this game to have a Gran Turismo game, and in that respect it fails hard.
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- Booosted3G
That's a good way to put it. But overall I'm happy with GT5, I spend most of my time just playing the game and not complaining.
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- The Pool Of Life.
Avatar 2 is due out in 2014, if I read nothing about it before it comes out I will still expect it to be better than the first film, because even though I enjoyed the first film, they will have had all that time between film one and two to make it at least look better, but also make it an overall better film.
Those that say they are enjoying the driving and the physics of the 'driving game' must not be racing at the same time, because the AI shows no improvement from previous games to me. I've had every GT game from importing the first GT from Japan, and this is by far the shortest gaming experience I've had from any of the main releases. (excluding Prologues) Two months since release and I feel I've achieved as much as I'll ever achieve. Without a pause and return facility there is no way I could do any of the Endurance races, whether in A-Spec or B-Spec. Not that the incentive is there anyway. I tried one of the endurance races which took 4+ hours and was rewarded by a cay, yes, but only 84k credits.
For all that time. 
Until this game I had never used the B-Spec mode, but this has taken up two thirds to a half of playing time because some of the cars I wished to purchase cost out of all proportion with the amounts you received for winning races, forcing me into using B-Spec.
The familiar tracks, and seemingly small amount/variety of races available in A-Spec and rubbish AI hasn't made the racing a pleasant experience which I wish to repeat too often. They repeat some of the tracks many times to race on and use others hardly at all, again making it not a very attractive experience. Are all the tracks just being saved for playing online and seasonal events?
And people go on about racing online, and also some of the games flaws being fixed in updates. Well like the first four games I purchased I bought to play alone, just me and the game, if they can't deliver that experience then they should call it GT5 Online. And if they have to update the game with so many large and frequent updates, then maybe it wasn't ready for release and just had to be out before Xmas. Not everyone will have their PS3s connected to the internet and so will miss out on any major updates. Any online elements should be an addition to the main game experience not a large part imho.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
Oh, and before you say stop playing, it is not all bad, just mostly bad, and I bought a PS3 to play the game, so I'm trying to get my moneys worth.
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To answer the original question.
Am I disappointed? No I'm not.
This game cost me £40 and since it's release I must have played it for several hundred hours and with online racing with the GBRC I can't see myself getting bored with it for a long time to come. That's good value in my book.
OK, it's not perfect, there are things I would have done differently given the choice, but I'm really not disappointed in it at all. I'm having a lot of fun.
Am I disappointed? No I'm not.
This game cost me £40 and since it's release I must have played it for several hundred hours and with online racing with the GBRC I can't see myself getting bored with it for a long time to come. That's good value in my book.
OK, it's not perfect, there are things I would have done differently given the choice, but I'm really not disappointed in it at all. I'm having a lot of fun.
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- kidd0218
Am I disappointed in GT5? No. Nope, never was. I've read the reviews for the game before buying it, (I know for a GT fan, who needs a reviewer's opinion for GT5, aye?) but I just wanted to see and maybe prove the reviewer's view of the game is wrong. It ended up being totally wrong, except for some really good reviewers, who really sat down and got to the real depth of the game.
To tell you the truth, the game is not as perfect as many has hope for, but lets face it, nothing is perfect in this world. I've seen the problems that the reviewers has pointed out, but honestly, I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm not delusional, I was just really enjoying the game.
It is really sad to see that other gamers and the general public's view is mislead by reading or watching the review for the game. They dont even give the game a chance by playing it, honestly the reviewers are just nick-picking on the problems, its not perfect, but it is close to perfection, for me.
To tell you the truth, the game is not as perfect as many has hope for, but lets face it, nothing is perfect in this world. I've seen the problems that the reviewers has pointed out, but honestly, I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm not delusional, I was just really enjoying the game.
It is really sad to see that other gamers and the general public's view is mislead by reading or watching the review for the game. They dont even give the game a chance by playing it, honestly the reviewers are just nick-picking on the problems, its not perfect, but it is close to perfection, for me.
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I just wish the online portion would actually work, search for the kinda race ya wanna do, and stain in the friggin game! i get booted off of every bloody server, and i got the type 2 connection or whatever, that is the open NAT, yet the game keeps on booting me from EVERY server i join, this is friggin silly.
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Isn't that what reviewers should be doing, pointing good and bad points? Then you can make an informed purchase whether the good points outweigh the bad points. And as we can see from this thread, everyone has an opinion, hopefully a reviewer would unbiased and dispassionate about the game, something 'fans' may not be.
I'm happy for you that you can look past the imperfections and enjoy the game.
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the Interceptor
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I found the majority of reviews to be quite correct to be honest. Most of what I read said that the driving itself is very good, but that the game lacks in pretty much every other department.
And I find it perfectly okay to be able to live with the flaws of GT5, everyone is free to make whatever he wants of this game. But that doesn't mean that the reviews are wrong, it just means that you have a different attitude to this game than a neutral outside-of-the-GT-franchise person has.
IGN UK completely nailed it in one single sentence:
If the product is still good enough for you to enjoy, be my guest. But please understand and accept that all the reviews and the nit-pickers might be on to something you personally just don't regard as important.IGN UK
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I find the game to be really good but my three main disappointments where
1. Graphics - This game could have been stunning if it was release two years prior but to today's standards is nothing impressive. I never bought FM3 but when I saw it I was stunned by the graphics.
2. Endurance Races - They could of easily put a race between the 24hr Le Mans and the 24hr Nurburgring and I would of been happy. 24hr Nurburgring will probably be a blast for me and I will not use the X1 for such but getting useless XP points is ridiculous. If you wanted to give me XP point why not make 24 ring LV 39.
3. The lack of cars - What I mean is were is the Diablo SVT or GTR? and other high performance cars. I could care less for the 100 skylines.
1. Graphics - This game could have been stunning if it was release two years prior but to today's standards is nothing impressive. I never bought FM3 but when I saw it I was stunned by the graphics.
2. Endurance Races - They could of easily put a race between the 24hr Le Mans and the 24hr Nurburgring and I would of been happy. 24hr Nurburgring will probably be a blast for me and I will not use the X1 for such but getting useless XP points is ridiculous. If you wanted to give me XP point why not make 24 ring LV 39.
3. The lack of cars - What I mean is were is the Diablo SVT or GTR? and other high performance cars. I could care less for the 100 skylines.
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What he said... 👍
R34EVO9
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This is my biggest dissatisfaction with GT5 its missing this
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/3261580.aspx
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/3261580.aspx
