Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?
- Thread starter allmoo
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I love the game but I'm disappointed about the shadows and the fact they just imported a bunch of tracks from GT4 and didn't bother to update the graphics on them. They should have spent less time on the cars & made sure ALL the tracks had updated graphics. Maybe we'll get free DLC that will have updated graphics for these tracks
Played it quite a lot since it came out (A-spec 24 B-spec 16)
Im a bit bored though, there needs to be more events, im already at 77% game completion. I really can't be bothered with doing the same races over again to get cars and XP.
PD have spent far too long on detail and not enough on replay-value
Im a bit bored though, there needs to be more events, im already at 77% game completion. I really can't be bothered with doing the same races over again to get cars and XP.
PD have spent far too long on detail and not enough on replay-value
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is it possible for the devs to update the engine and exhaust sounds to be realistic ? possible in dlc packs? i would at least do this, as at present it is shameful.
on a positive note bought a wheel 3 days ago, and its made gt5 much more enjoyable, now how about fixing the fake car sounds ?
on a positive note bought a wheel 3 days ago, and its made gt5 much more enjoyable, now how about fixing the fake car sounds ?
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I don't think you can half ass a "flying to the moon" mission...
Anyway, I'd say that that quote was as arrogant as anything Greenawalt ever said.
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Tell that to the guys on Apollo 13
Actually ironically flying to the moon is always toeing the line of half assing it... they get bids and go with the lowest one...
Lost all respect for GT series and Kaz after this.
If they wanted to make something that looked amazing why didnt they hook up with Disney and make a film because this game is weak.
Iv waited 6 years for this and only 20% of the cars have cockpit views and the other 80% of cars look like they came from a ps2 game.
Damage - Where the F is it? I dont understand if they have it or not surely it should just be on from the start?
GT Life - Its just pointless race after pointless race and why so few and small race championships. Im not asking for 18, 75 lap races but i dont see much fun in buying one car to do one race in when the car costs 500,000 and the prize is 10k and the prize car is a poorer version of the car i boughtWhy so few series in each level, only 9 should have been more like 30
1000+ cars - whats the point in wasting so much time and effort in to the 2 ferrari f1 cars and those silly VW's yes great to look at but you cant even use the F1 cars in the F1 championship Ahhhh FFS whats the point. Its so annoying they do this when other popular cars (veyron) look like they belong on a gameboy colour.
XP - yes good idea shame they implemented it so poorly once you get to lvl 21-22 it just becomes a grind to get up to the next lvl? wheres the fun in that
BSpec - yeah nice idea but is it really needed especially when all the races are the same as in ASpec have they no imagination?
AI - still nowhere near good enough imo, got to say i expected more rather than avoid you they just ram you there are occasions where cant help it but still not as good as id hoped
Music - Ok i didnt buy this game for the music but my god its gash compared to older GT's
Qualifying - Dont we qualify in real life for motorsports anymore
Im just so disappointed theres no reason to fear the barriers or drive properly What the hell were they doing for 6 years if this had been released 3 years ago it might have been acceptable. They need to work wonders on updates because i can see me getting bored of this before xmas.
Firstly I agree to all your comments; all points well made! There are a few points I'd add, more as possible improvements rather than criticisms mind...though I suppose it depends how you look at them.
Like I've just said to you, my biggest gripe is that it's far too easy. Once you've got a good car you can walk a lot of the races, making them pointless - perhaps they could make the entry requirements more strict to make the cars more equal and therefore more of an emphasis on driver skill rather than money spent buying/tuning a car. (A bit like Red Bull in F1 this season - if you wanna succeed in this game you simply have to spend twice as much money on your car as everyone else - sorry different rant there...)
As for damage, I will reserve judgement until the update. Although you'd have thought after delaying the game for so long it would have been included straight away.
HOWEVER...what I would like to see (and can't imagine it will be in the update) is:
Proper damage that you have to actually pay to repair; again placing a greater emphasis on skilled, sensible driving. This could also open up some other potential avenues:
a) you could have the option to take out insurance premiums to cover costs of a damaged car (price of premiums could then vary based on your race/claim value ratio)
b) this could actually present the scenario of the good old fashioned 'GAME OVER' i.e. you don't have insurance, you total your one and only car and don't have enough money to replace one - even if you don't get to quite that situation, you may still have to 'fall down the snake' and have to earn enough money to replace the car etc.
Essentially it would mean you would race more professionally rather than 'win it or bin it' and you definitely wouldn't stick your rookie B-spec driver into the Clubman Cup in your Zonda-R. Obviously this would rely heavily on a dramatically improved AI because it is bloody annoying how the other cars all stick to the racing line so much so that if you're on it and not going at full speed, they will ram you rather than simply go off-line and overtake. Also they never seem to 'go defensive' and take a tight line into a corner to prevent you from going up the inside and out-brake them. Again, I reiterate, the gameplay is too simple - this is no racing 'simulator' as it says on the box.
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Tell that to the guys on Apollo 13
Actually ironically flying to the moon is always toeing the line of half assing it... they get bids and go with the lowest one...
Touche.
But I'm pretty sure you get what I'm saying.
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- willsc2007
Nobody cares what you say.I`m 99% satisfied with the game:tup:you wanna wait another 4 years just to have all premium cars?Thats why there is a gt6 coming out(-__-)
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Yup and the fanboys on here just say (hey you enjoy racing just race again with a different car). Don't they realise how paltry the event set is in GT5 compared to GT4 and Forza 3. Don't they realise it isn't the "grind" that bothers me its the "grind" through the same races again and again because the one thing we always expect in a GT game is plenty of races and THERE SIMPLY AREN'T PLENTY OF RACES!
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- GTP_Royalton
Disappointed in some stupid design decisions.
- SSR7 has no pits? That ruins it.
- You can adjust time of day (as well as time speed advancement) and weather online but offline in practice its random?? Just stupid. I can set up a day into night race online but not offline???
- A-Spec and B-Spec have poor pacing and require way too much grind. You'll beg for mercy when you get in the high 20s. Cant imagine the 30s
- Pit crews DO NOT fix damage in endurance races , after 2 hours every car looks like a wreck
- 99% of the races are only 12 cars. Ive had some slow down with 15 AI cars but only for the 1st corner or two. No reason to remove it IMO
- Indy 500 uses Le Mans cars not open wheel F1 or FGT
- A-Spec and car mileage does not count online. Funny how some of my cars still have 0.0 miles after a dozen online races. Also I'm proud of my A-Spec mileage I wont be racing AI forever need online races/track days to count
Other then that the game is amazing. Notice the flaws I mentioned dont require any major overhaul, just poor design decisions. The backbone, the physics are the best yet. GT5 doesnt get enough credit for the most important part of a simulator, its physics.
9.5/10 but once they patch some problems 10/10
- SSR7 has no pits? That ruins it.
- You can adjust time of day (as well as time speed advancement) and weather online but offline in practice its random?? Just stupid. I can set up a day into night race online but not offline???
- A-Spec and B-Spec have poor pacing and require way too much grind. You'll beg for mercy when you get in the high 20s. Cant imagine the 30s
- Pit crews DO NOT fix damage in endurance races , after 2 hours every car looks like a wreck
- 99% of the races are only 12 cars. Ive had some slow down with 15 AI cars but only for the 1st corner or two. No reason to remove it IMO
- Indy 500 uses Le Mans cars not open wheel F1 or FGT
- A-Spec and car mileage does not count online. Funny how some of my cars still have 0.0 miles after a dozen online races. Also I'm proud of my A-Spec mileage I wont be racing AI forever need online races/track days to count
Other then that the game is amazing. Notice the flaws I mentioned dont require any major overhaul, just poor design decisions. The backbone, the physics are the best yet. GT5 doesnt get enough credit for the most important part of a simulator, its physics.
9.5/10 but once they patch some problems 10/10
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- willsc2007
I guess I'm one of those fanboys you mention. I think what separates us from the rest is that we do go through and "grind" to get 100% golds in the license tests. I would hazard a guess that most of the others would never consider getting 100% golds in the license tests because you will need to repeat the tests again and again. I don't mind repeating races over and over again. I am always looking for improvements measured in tenths or hundredths the way that real race drivers do. Sure, it's a sim but that's all I have access to. I feel great if I can shave tenths off my best times.
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- GTP_Royalton
When racing at high speed the water streams like the trailer
Maybe PD should have had only 8 cars on track, no day night, no weather, extremely low level of car detail in race etc like Turn 10's masterpiece Forza 3. Then there would be nothing to complain about as far as graphics
PD is pushing the PS3 hard . Previous GTs had only 6 cars, no smoke, no tire marks, no damage, no realistic headlights that light the road and enviorment, no rain etc etc, non existent A.I. , poor sound
GT5 adds or improves all that. Adding all that takes a huge toll on processing power. Forza 3 tries to add all that it would rrod the 360 instantly.
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No no no lol - I perfectly agree with you that in some cases (such as licence tests or time trials) repetition can be fun and there is nothing wrong with loving that! I love that too.
However with racing there is also no reason that GT5 couldn't have had far more events and far more races within those events. Then that would have kept everyone happy - those who like variety and those who like to shave of seconds.
I just feel that licence tests and time trials are the places to "grind". Races should be far more varied and in far greater quantity within the game.
Take the mini challenge - I love minis, but why am I restricted to just once race in the mini event. This is my gripe. I have no problems with fans of the game. I consider myself a fan. I just feel that some overly defend.
You can be a fan (I certainly consider myself one) and still be annoyed at your "team" if you feel they haven't produced what you felt they would
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- GTP_GTXLR
- gtxlr
Which was mostly only for the benefit of marketing and for Photomode purposes, Even kaz seems to agree it was somewhat a mistake, with the statement, suggesting they may being more suited to a Next Gen title.
A poorly implemented inconsistant system, that may appear to some as a poor design decision and to some extent a failure of the developement of the series, the complete lacking of mechanical damage is also a questionable decision, apparantley it may be added later, yet so far, i've only heard suggested (in the tweets from Kaz I think) that it will affect the steering
add that to the fact, that I myself at least, will likely have completed the main Aspec mode before this update ever arrives.I guess that is the point, Kaz always promises the changes , but in the end every GT ends up just the same, as often those ever promised advances are either removed, greatly muted or poorly implemented, and we are left to rely on systems not much different from what was first developed for the PS1 era tech and gamers.
I guess when you consider that with almost 6 years development, people have a right to expect something a little more in the way of improved content, The premiums are overdeveloped for the game and system on which they appear, another poor design choice.
Agreed also.
Agree here also, but as to why it was made a totally seperate part of the game is another poor desgin choice in my opinion, it should have been left as optional part of Aspec for those moments that I may actually not have the time to do certain events.
It is slightly better, but really it needs to be a lot better.
It appears to me that instead of developing completely new code and systems for the AI they are still constantly trying to evolve the floored system from GT1.
A 6 year time frame should easily have allowed the AI team to develop a new and advanced personality AI sytem.
Music....I like Rhubarb crumble
Agreed also, although Kaz as a racer should have known how important this was in the first place.
But I guess qualifying is irrelevant when the events arent even managed to any great degree to keep entrants to within guidelines.
Of course I can re run an event for the challenge, by constantly downgrading my car until I reach a level of equal competitiveness, but along with the poor AI, im often having to race in much lower grade cars than the surrounding competition, leaving me feeling a poor sense of realistic immersion.
GTHD appeared on PS3 soon after release.
Its been the constant change of design strategy and constant meddling and delays by Sony for there own benefits that have casued the problems here.
We eventually got the same principle game we were promised with premiums and standards, that was talked about delivering in the very early days of the PS3, the original GTHD was only canned for the pricing structure of the content, in the end we got the same game, which has appeared over the last couple of years at least according to Kaz to have been 90% complete.
Yet then there were more delays, as more Sony Promoting Product features were introduced, and it is this I feel has had the most detrimental effect on the final title in the features avaialable, due to limited system resources in the system in order to keep 3D an option, I get the feeling a lot of programming cycles and a lot of man hours of unused code is sitting somewhere in PDs offices.
I find it so frustrating for the cars to be so unbelievably fun and challenging to drive, yet there are hardly any races to use them! One race for the Italian cars? Why must everything be so difficult! There are so few races, and the dealership is pathetically small, what's the point of having so many cars!!!! Every time I play, I just want this game to be so much more and it could have been with just a little input from actual gamers and not just Kaz calling the shots. SO FRUSTRATING!!! Game is still good, but good have been epic Those turds are probably saving all the good stuff for GT6, which is total BS after the promises they made. I told myself I wouldn't ask myself what took so long when I bought it, but I can't help it... they could have put this out three years ago instead of prologue and be half way done with GT6 to launch with the next Playstation. Thanks for listening to my rant, just need to get it out
Those turds are probably saving all the good stuff for GT6, which is total BS after the promises they made. I told myself I wouldn't ask myself what took so long when I bought it, but I can't help it... they could have put this out three years ago instead of prologue and be half way done with GT6 to launch with the next Playstation. Thanks for listening to my rant, just need to get it out- 154
- GTP_MrKipling43
Agreed.
Kate Beckinsale? I fear you're showing your age, Mr. Kipling!
(Loved her in Cold Comfort Farm, though.👍)
Yeah, I think you're probably right. But just as a reminder...
Giggity.
Incidentally, playing GT now as I always see it as meant to be played.
Track, car, brother, lap time battle. Win.
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As I sit here not playing GT5 anywhere near as often as I expected to, I can't help but feel disappointed.
The unnecessary grind combined with the lack of a backup for my save which is stored on a piece of unreliable hardware that could literally die any moment, is really preventing me from playing the game as much as I'd like.
Couple this with the extreme lack of customisation and poor online experience and I find myself left with a game that I don't play that much.
Photo mode was fun due to the quality of the premiums, but after you browse a few threads you realise that you're just taking the same pictures everyone else is because you can't really customise anything. I've golded the licences and I've got a lot of golds on the special events, those have been the two most exciting aspects of the game so far. The physics are good, but they still don't represent low power FR cars particularly well, which is a bit of a disappointment.
I like the game, it has many nice features, but it has just as many poorly implemented or missing features.
Right now I'm just waiting for some regular fun online races to be created on GTP because trying to race with random people is impossible.
I bought a PS3 specifically for GT5 and I don't think I've got much value for money so far.
The unnecessary grind combined with the lack of a backup for my save which is stored on a piece of unreliable hardware that could literally die any moment, is really preventing me from playing the game as much as I'd like.
Couple this with the extreme lack of customisation and poor online experience and I find myself left with a game that I don't play that much.
Photo mode was fun due to the quality of the premiums, but after you browse a few threads you realise that you're just taking the same pictures everyone else is because you can't really customise anything. I've golded the licences and I've got a lot of golds on the special events, those have been the two most exciting aspects of the game so far. The physics are good, but they still don't represent low power FR cars particularly well, which is a bit of a disappointment.
I like the game, it has many nice features, but it has just as many poorly implemented or missing features.
Right now I'm just waiting for some regular fun online races to be created on GTP because trying to race with random people is impossible.
I bought a PS3 specifically for GT5 and I don't think I've got much value for money so far.
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- Strboymo
I see a lot of complaining on here so far, I'd like to say, yes it took a long time to create, yes some features are missing. but I can definitely say "this is the best racing/driving game on the market" and it will only get better.
I will be playing this game for a very very long time.
I'm sure more features and fixes will come
I will be playing this game for a very very long time.
I'm sure more features and fixes will come
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Have you even played the previous GTs? If anything the driving model has vastly improved, and if for the sole reason it didn't change because it was good to begin with, then wow.
And I love how people are taking only the cars into account when talking about Graphics. But then again, that's only being nicer to the game.
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- nothingreal
Yes.
as soon as i saw the top gear track I was itching to see if i could best the stig going round the track.. I was ready to pull up top gear lap times on wikipedia and go for it..
..but alas, the Top Gear challenges are an exercise in tedium.. a showpiece for an AI that's the laughing stock of the gaming world. You can't even drive freely on the track until you complete the horrible challenges. And really.. how hard would it have been to place the replay cameras in the same spot as the BBC's cameras?!!
Add to that the fact that the car customization has taken a step backwards, the premium car model vs. standard car model thing is nonsense and the graphic glitches, loading times and menus make me want to throw the controller through the window.
It's a decent enough game.. i was just hoping for a truly next generation driving game. GT5 is not it.
Patches and car model packs.. please?!!
as soon as i saw the top gear track I was itching to see if i could best the stig going round the track.. I was ready to pull up top gear lap times on wikipedia and go for it..
..but alas, the Top Gear challenges are an exercise in tedium.. a showpiece for an AI that's the laughing stock of the gaming world. You can't even drive freely on the track until you complete the horrible challenges. And really.. how hard would it have been to place the replay cameras in the same spot as the BBC's cameras?!!
Add to that the fact that the car customization has taken a step backwards, the premium car model vs. standard car model thing is nonsense and the graphic glitches, loading times and menus make me want to throw the controller through the window.
It's a decent enough game.. i was just hoping for a truly next generation driving game. GT5 is not it.
Patches and car model packs.. please?!!
