Is GT7 fast becoming the worst of the GT Series?
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when 5 and 6 were active games you'd have better luck with the car collecting than you have with GT7. By a considerable margin...
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GT7 is the best in the franchise and I've played them all. The early iterations had some things they perhaps did better than GT7 but as an overall package, GT7 is the winner for me.
If for no other reason (and there are plenty) it's because they got rid of the whole lot of "standard cars" and included a cockpit view on all real world cars.
If for no other reason (and there are plenty) it's because they got rid of the whole lot of "standard cars" and included a cockpit view on all real world cars.
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- MoLieG
The whole game feels cheap in way too many areas: Presentation, menu designs, the way they just simply threw all cars in the dealerships, the events. It feels like it was missing at least another year of polishing. It doesn't feel like a complete game, it feels more like a beta. That's my main issue with it.
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GT7 and GT6 are the worst games in the series. Remember GT fans were suggesting that GT6 must have been outsourced it was so bad. It is not any better or worse than GT7. Only GT2,3 and 4 are really good games and with online gaming meaning no bother over single player means we are going to have the same conversation when GT8 drops.
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GT7 may not be the best in terms of career and gameplay historically but it's a lot better than Forza Motorsport, and that's before we get to the feeling of the game on a controller. It's worse than Forza Horizon 5, which puzzles me as that's supposed to be the more "arcadey" game. It falls hilariously short with the physics, sounds and graphics, blunting the entire sensory experience. GT7 does everything better and I therefore rate it very highly, further disputing the title of this thread. It's the best.
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Well there were arguments that GT Sport wasn't a proper Gran Turismo because it didn't have a number. GT uh seven has a number. Still not a proper Gran Turismo?
Just saying I guess Kaz didn't feel any Gran Turismo without a number wasn't a proper Gran Turismo title.
The first Gran Turismo games didn't have B-Spec, course creator, Seasonals and Sport Mode. I'll add there wasn't a livery editor even though Racing Modification was available. GT7 has pretty much everything except B-Spec and Course Creator. It does have point paying Championships(which do require certain licences to progress). Not in the way many people would like, but Championships are in the game.
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I had played GT Sport to death, and so much of GT7 feels familiar, or is even identical to GT Sport which is where I think some of the disappointment stems.
At first glance it's impressive as top level menus have been refreshed, like a facelifted legacy model in a manufacturers lineup, but poke around under the bonnet and the sub menus, online races plus the tracks and cars are largely copied and pasted from GT Sport.
While it makes sense not to throw out all the existing hard work the ratio of new to old content makes GT7 feel like a continuation of GT Sport instead of a fresh new game.
At first glance it's impressive as top level menus have been refreshed, like a facelifted legacy model in a manufacturers lineup, but poke around under the bonnet and the sub menus, online races plus the tracks and cars are largely copied and pasted from GT Sport.
While it makes sense not to throw out all the existing hard work the ratio of new to old content makes GT7 feel like a continuation of GT Sport instead of a fresh new game.
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With this latest update, I put this game above GT5, GT6 and GT Sport without batting an eye. Is it a better experience than GT1 or GT2? It's a pretty close call. The hierarchy would look something like this:
GT4 > GT3 > GT7 > GT2 > GT1 > GTS > GT6 > GT5 > GTPSP
Pre-1.49 update, I'd put GT7 just behind GT1.
Jerome
GT4 > GT3 > GT7 > GT2 > GT1 > GTS > GT6 > GT5 > GTPSP
Pre-1.49 update, I'd put GT7 just behind GT1.
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Or what the game always should've been from the beginning.
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Gt7 have also become kind of my favorite in the series, yes the single player experince is not as good as it use to be, but as an overall pakage gt7 still takes it,
The reason i keep coming back to it is also for how much better it sounds campared to previous titles. Before gt sport the sounds was absolutly terrible.
Gt7 has done a good job on the sounds for the most part.
Gt7 goes more in depth with upgrades that changes the sound more in depth than ever before, witch is something i really value.
The details to the car models is insane just love it
Psvr2 support,
Dynamic wheather is fantastic.
The driving feel is also the best its ever been,
It misses some cars i would like, but i rather wait for them in proper quality than getting something just half decent.
Pd has up their game in many aspects. Hopefully that quality will go on and be more refined as we go on.
The reason i keep coming back to it is also for how much better it sounds campared to previous titles. Before gt sport the sounds was absolutly terrible.
Gt7 has done a good job on the sounds for the most part.
Gt7 goes more in depth with upgrades that changes the sound more in depth than ever before, witch is something i really value.
The details to the car models is insane just love it
Psvr2 support,
Dynamic wheather is fantastic.
The driving feel is also the best its ever been,
It misses some cars i would like, but i rather wait for them in proper quality than getting something just half decent.
Pd has up their game in many aspects. Hopefully that quality will go on and be more refined as we go on.
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- voodoovaj
3 years later, I'm still not thinking this is the best yet.
That said, the Sophy custom race addition changed everything. Up to that point, I was still disappointed by GT7. I had 400+ useless cars. A boring single player with little variation and no excitement. If it weren't for my desire to have personalized cars, I wouldn't even have needed to buy anything, because I could rent what is necessary.
Sophy custom races changes everything. If you haven't made one yet (which is the drawback, I get it) you should make at least one. The difficulty is close to Sport Mode, which makes it interesting. Then, since you can do whatever you like, you can make whatever race you like. That means that those 20million credit cars obtain real purpose beyond simply owning them. There's a trophy for owning ten cars...that trophy is the only purpose to own ten cars...until now.
Now, I have 28 f3500's. I have 16 Carrera RS CS. I have 5 Merc Evos and I need more.
IF, big IF, we get back to an evolution of B Spec, where I can train a group of 10 drivers, where the single p-layer is actually interesting, where each car has a purpose, then GT8 is shaping up to be the best ever. GT7 still isn't the best, but it has become better over time.
That said, the Sophy custom race addition changed everything. Up to that point, I was still disappointed by GT7. I had 400+ useless cars. A boring single player with little variation and no excitement. If it weren't for my desire to have personalized cars, I wouldn't even have needed to buy anything, because I could rent what is necessary.
Sophy custom races changes everything. If you haven't made one yet (which is the drawback, I get it) you should make at least one. The difficulty is close to Sport Mode, which makes it interesting. Then, since you can do whatever you like, you can make whatever race you like. That means that those 20million credit cars obtain real purpose beyond simply owning them. There's a trophy for owning ten cars...that trophy is the only purpose to own ten cars...until now.
Now, I have 28 f3500's. I have 16 Carrera RS CS. I have 5 Merc Evos and I need more.
IF, big IF, we get back to an evolution of B Spec, where I can train a group of 10 drivers, where the single p-layer is actually interesting, where each car has a purpose, then GT8 is shaping up to be the best ever. GT7 still isn't the best, but it has become better over time.
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I remember playing the first 2 GT's when they came out as a kid and when I got GT7 all the feelings of discovery and hunger for the grind came back to me. This is a testament to how well crafted the game is. But I suppose everyone wants something different.
In the end of the day, GT7 is as much GT as the originals to me. It's the exact same recipe. Like when your mom prepares your favourite dish; it will taste the same no matter how old you get.
In the end of the day, GT7 is as much GT as the originals to me. It's the exact same recipe. Like when your mom prepares your favourite dish; it will taste the same no matter how old you get.
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For me: GT4 > GT2 > GT5 > GT7 > GT3 > GT6 > GT1 > GTSP
- GT4 is everything with the good and bad things.
- GT2, maybe the nostalgia, but the car list, track list and the career mode were really good. It's my childhood favorite game.
- GT5, after the years the game aged well in some way, structured but complete career mode, nice things in there.
- GT7, the career mode is just a mess, the car selection is really strange some times, but a lot of things in there and of course is the best GT ever in the technological and playable topic.
- GT3, the best career mode in the history of Gran turismo and maybe the best AI, but the small car list and track selection take its toll in the repetitive the game was.
- GT6...quantity over quality, some good things, but no more.
- GT1, i understand why this GT means for the racing games history, but sadly my entrance in the saga was GT2. Is the only game what i not have the original PS copy.
- GT Sport, the first game what i never bought at day 1 release, i bought it 1 year after the inclusion of the GT League career and some updates. Maybe online games are not my target after all.
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Not the best, but at least a step up from the PS3 era GTs and GT Sport perhaps. Gotta be really ahead to make something that beat GT2 and GT4 eh. Dunno what'd blow people's mind in the current era.
Other than main career mode, the other stuff are made as complete as the older GT games again (e.g. Mission Races, Tuning parts). Sophy should be further refined to become the default AI for later GTs. B-Spec also depends on Sophy, because it's also an AI, they want to make Sophy the AI for it too.
GT5's career mode has few races compared to GT3 and GT4, only, and for B-Spec, it's just duplicates, forcing you to play A-Spec and B-Spec separately rather than it being a choice like GT4.
GT7's car selection being strange for cars like Unimog or CR-V? Then GT4 has:
Though GT1 started it, GT1 has almost exclusively Japanese cars, and its career mode is tiny.
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Driver/Team management, sure (I too don't want for it to be solely not playing mode like GT4), but don't forcefully separate the A-Spec and B-Spec races. There's only 54 main events in GT5 (B-Spec is just the same events). And not separating them can allow to switch drivers too in Endurance, between player and your trained drivers.
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Yeah for me GT5 was the best, with GT4 closest behind. It gets a bit blurry with the rest but GT6 is definitely last
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- voodoovaj
Why does it have to be one way or the other? You don't want a forceful separation, but I don't want a forceful inclusion. I want to call the car into the pits and take control if I feel like it, or just leave them to do it.
I loved having the AI run the 24 hour races because I didn't want to physically drive for 24 hours.
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Forceful inclusion as in what? If you start the race in B-Spec already then there won't be any forceful inclusion? Which can be done in GT4 too, by just picking B-Spec in the start of the race and stay that way until the race ends. And can't the AI running 24 hour races be done in GT4 without the forceful separation too?
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You said...
You need a place to train your drivers, which is what happened in GT5. So, you had B-Spec, a place for training. That's why it was separated.
By separating it, you could play your own career mode without the disruption of training drivers. I don't see the issue with a separate mode, especially when you need trained drivers to be your teammates for endurance races (assuming they bring that feature back, and really, why do all this and NOT bring it back?)
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I think you're mixing two games up?
Unless I'm wrong, GT5 A-Spec and B-Spec were totally individual. There was no subbing in the B-Spec driver for A-Spec endurances, but they did add a mid-race save for you to do it in multiple stints.
In GT4 - there was the ability to have B-Spec 'co-drive' for you, which you could also train by putting him through normal events, but in GT5 they took this out and made it its own career progression entirely with its own rewards (hence forceful seperation).
I don't know about GT6, I try to forget that game exists.
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"GT7's car selection being strange for cars like Unimog or CR-V? Then GT4 has"
I don't speak about the strange cars, my point of it, for example is this:
Infiniti (GT6)
Infiniti CONCEPT Vision Gran Turismo
Infiniti Coupe Concept '06
Infiniti FX45 Concept '02
Infiniti G20 '90
Infiniti G35 COUPE '03
Infiniti G35 Coupe '06
Infiniti G35 Sedan '03
Infiniti (GT7)
Infiniti CONCEPT Vision Gran Turismo...
Now you can see my point.
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A point that probably only I care about: GT7 fixed this massive annoyance as seen in the above quote where car names in older games would have model names in branding capitals some but not all of the time, and honestly that alone would raise it off of the bottom for me, the inconsistency really annoyed me.
