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Why does the Veyron deserve special treatment?
The standards and premiums drive exactly the same, the only difference is a visual one so you get a stunning looking cockpit and cars that look real in photos etc... The actual physics model ( what you experience while driving in game ) is the same for cars that have shared status.
Also all the physics for the standard cars were updated before being put on the game, for example drive the yellowbird on GT4 then drive the same car on GT5 and you will notice it is a lot more realistic in GT5 than 4.
Few cars i would love to see premium..
Ruf Yellowbird
M3csl
Veyron
All race cars inc lm models
etc etc
Yea man thats how DLC is ACTUALLY suppose to work.
What im saying is for cars that have shared premium and standard models the physics of the two cars will be the same for example drive a GT40 in standard or premium trim and they will be exactly the same only 1 will look a damn sight better then the other. if you are not happy with how they have set the gearing then change it yourself as they offer the option to do so.
I guarantee that the Jaguar XJR-9 LM Racecar that we are getting will drive exactly the same as its standard counterpart
It's too bad that we have no idea at all what that's supposed to be. It's been so long since that update in December 2010 mentioned it.
I will be testing the Jag asap, meaning before this update has time to clear.Excellent post - this has been touched on a few times in the past, but sadly many members misunderstand "new physics engine" (which GT5 definitely does have over GT4) with "improved sets of parameters for each car". It's fairly hard to test thoroughly, too - we don't know the inner-workings of PD's physics engine, and considering how much they typically reveal about anything, we're not likely to know in the future either.
Adding to what yellowclone has mentioned, though simplifying - let's say each car in GT4 had 100 parameters that the physics engine calculated. Now let's say GT5's engine calculates 300 parameters. For Premiums, cars built with this level of detail in mind, that's not a problem. But for the 800 cars carried over from GT4, what do you do with the 200 blank spaces for each? There's multiple possible answers - fill them in with values from similar Premium cars (the myriad Miata/MX-5/Roadster cars, for example)? Re-test each and every one to get those values (or retrieve them from the manufacturers, if possible). In the cases of cars that don't have a direct Premium relation, get the numbers from whatever's closest? Or, who knows, maybe PD already "future-proofed" their parameters during GT4 development and got far more detail than they could use with their engine at the time (though that would be hard to pass by the folks upstairs, I imagine).
It's an interesting discussion, and we're unlikely to get a solid answer ever. Even the XJR-9 won't solve this - the Standard model's parameters could very well be updated in 2.03.
On the topic of Standard to Premium model changes, and the fact we're now being asked to (optionally) pay for it - I can't say I'm surprised. It's slightly disappointing, sure, but on the plus side, this car pack is one car larger than the last, for the same price, so if you want to rationalize it as an extra S-to-P conversion thrown in, go nuts
On the topic of Standard to Premium model changes, and the fact we're now being asked to (optionally) pay for it - I can't say I'm surprised. It's slightly disappointing, sure, but on the plus side, this car pack is one car larger than the last, for the same price, so if you want to rationalize it as an extra S-to-P conversion thrown in, go nuts
And how many of those threads were about having to pay to get standards converted to premiums?mhmmm... I know...
How many threads are callled
What standards do you want to be premiums..
Now, complaints over the occurance..
It's debatable, time will tell.
