JSTC400 (GT300) Series! Season 1 Races Complete

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Would you be in favor of including the Toyota MR-S in the series?

  • Yes, please include the Toyota MR-S.

    Votes: 26 78.8%
  • No, please don't include the Toyota MR-S.

    Votes: 7 21.2%

  • Total voters
    33
My Race Report:

Well, i decided to race in cockpit view and screen display off i used only the map with scale set to 2. I usually use the chase cam so it was a big challenge for me yesterday, but i practice with this new view since a week now.
Everything started well from what I seen. I made a mistake early in the race which given the opportunity to Veloci to run away and i was stuck with 3 other Lexus. So i decided to back to the chase cam view to avoid any bad contacts. When i finally managed to create a gap with these Lexus, i back to the cockpit view and it was now the time to chase veloci. I had no idea of the gap between us so i pushed hard until i catch him. I had no idea of my tirewear aswell (all this due to the screen display off) so i decided to copy/paste the Veloci's pit strategy by pitting the following lap.
I had no idea of my lap times but i know Veloci regular in the low 36' and i could race with him (even faster) so i knew my pace was fine at this point. Glad to hit the best lap by the way :)

It was finally i very nice race for me, lot of sensation with the cockpit view, and i had great battles with the Lexus and this little MR-S :)

See you at Nurb guys.
I tried some laps yesterday after our race, hit a 59.4 with my Fuji's tune (and with my ballast aswell)
 
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No need to do a league where everyone is abs off dude, just trust yourself and set your abs off even if other run with abs ;)

Ever since you ran that practice session with me last week I turned ABS and TC off. Got my lap times back to what they were and better as I could feel the car more.

My big issue with it right now is how unstable the car becomes under hard braking. A little bump from behind will send you spinning when you're on that balance just before wheel lock.

Thats what happened to me yesterday.
 
For those who are moaning and groaning on how overly powerful the Lexus is, look at lap 11 of the replay with me vs Ubagubaz.
I got a better exit yet I couldnt get by on the straight.

Not a great race here, got caught in the pack, boxed here & there and made mistakes.
Turn 1 seemed to be the bumping spot. :(
But most of all not a great race because I was holding dirrahea in the whole way. Finally relieved. :lol:

Lexus has great low end and mid punch but lacks top speed 👍
RX7, at least mine had bad low end, good middle and great top end (162MPH by itself)

I'll take some pictures and post them here. Had some very close car to car moments :drool:
:)
 
Lexus has great low end and mid punch but lacks top speed 👍
RX7, at least mine had bad low end, good middle and great top end (162MPH by itself)

I'll take some pictures and post them here. Had some very close car to car moments :drool:
:)

Yeah, that's what Joe and I found out through testing the regs.

We're always open to suggestions, but if anyone wants to suggest anything, please make it concrete like "add 10kg" or "take off 10 horsepower".

"Make it faster or slower" doesn't really help us much.
 
If you finish low and get minus KG's does it just stay as the original weight that the car is spec'd too?
 
If you finish low and get minus KG's does it just stay as the original weight that the car is spec'd too?

Yeah, stays at original spec'ed weight. The minus kilogram only affects the success ballast, so if you didn't have any to begin with it doesn't affect you.
 
Any chance we can move this weekends race? I think Joe posted something about it.
 
Hey guys room 2 had some good racing I don't know what some people were complaining about. Racing always has those small bumps and nudges but thats just racing and you have to avoid them as best as you can. I mean I got my tail hit and spun out which knocked me back 5 places but hey thats ok. I finished 3rd in the end.

I think as long as there are no major accidents then the racing is fine.

This was my first ever online race series experience and it was a lot of fun.

Thanks for hosting alefin and will see you next week. Oh yeah and I'll make sure to work on my setup this time.

I gave you the position back after that collision also. I didn't dive bomb like TDZ says I did. 3 to 4 people going into turn 1, something is going to happen. But he completely used the run offs.


TDZ, I never named names as to who used the run offs, I just ask them to look at the replay. :)


Tried the Subaru '08 with 1140kg's and it was nice, but a tad off. 2:02.3 was my fastest without being broke in. I think it is going to be a well matched car at the 1100kg's and the full power of the car. I think Joe found the right specs. where this cars is good with the rest.
This weekend I'm running the Subaru '08.
Nice job Joe, it really keeps up with the Lexus and the others. :)
 
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Any chance we can move this weekends race? I think Joe posted something about it.

I was wondering about that, too. I think it depends how many people aren't able to make it.

Who would like it postponed a week?
 
I'll be here for the race. Won't be able to qualify untill Friday or Saturday though. Maybe as early as Wensday evening.
 
I gave you the position back after that collision also. I didn't dive bomb like TDZ says I did. 3 to 4 people going into turn 1, something is going to happen. But he completely used the run offs.


TDZ, I never named names as to who used the run offs, I just ask them to look at the replay. :)


Tried the Subaru '08 with 1140kg's and it was nice, but a tad off. 2:02.3 was my fastest without being broke in. I think it is going to be a well matched car at the 1100kg's and the full power of the car. I think Joe found the right specs. where this cars is good with the rest.
This weekend I'm running the Subaru '08.
Nice job Joe, it really keeps up with the Lexus and the others. :)


I can tell you right now, that I wasn't the only one to use run off's, and if anyone bothered to watch the replay correctly my fastest lap, which over 1.2 seconds slower then room 1s fastest lap I didn't go anywhere near any run off, so clearly, as it was said before the race started, as far back as last Tuesday, most run off's are legal as no time can really be gained, unless you completely cut the corner, and I wasn't using them to gain speed, I was using them to look after my tires,

also the '08 subaru, the spec's Joe ran are 1100KG at max BHP which I believe the spec's for it are now, the standard subaru is 1140 kg at 384BHP

so you should perhaps try the scoob again, its actually getting annoying that the OP isn't getting updated with this info,
 
What info? I believe I've updated whatever has changed. If you're talking about the run offs, that was never explicitly decided on, but was implied to not be legal, considering that GTP OLR doesn't particularly allow it.

If you're talking about the Subaru weight, I only found out about it Saturday, and updated the specs the next day.
 
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I can tell you right now, that I wasn't the only one to use run off's, and if anyone bothered to watch the replay correctly my fastest lap, which over 1.2 seconds slower then room 1s fastest lap I didn't go anywhere near any run off, so clearly, as it was said before the race started, as far back as last Tuesday, most run off's are legal as no time can really be gained, unless you completely cut the corner, and I wasn't using them to gain speed, I was using them to look after my tires

It was stated that using the run off were only for mistakes, and as long as you didn't gain any advantage by using them, you would be free of a penalty. I am not witness to your running, as I was not in the room, but it sounds like you are openly admitting to flagrantly using "out of bounds" track area to gain a tire wear advantage. It's not a speed advantage, but if it lessens your tire wear, then it's an advantage nonetheless. Also, using runoff multiple laps in a row is a big no-no. Run off is there in case of a mistake so you aren't running into the gravel and ruining your car/race. It is not meant to be part of the track/racing line, so using it as such, is grounds for penalty.

Let the stewards decide from this point. But unless otherwise noted, the white lines marking the edge of the track are the boundaries, unless a rumble strip is behind them in which case the rumble strip is the boundary. Two tires must be on or within the boundaries to remain clean. If you are found to be "out of bounds" then discretion is taken as to whether or not, you warrant a penalty. Penalties can be given for, but not exclusively for: gaining ANY advantage whilst out of bounds, passing, flagrant use of run-offs. "out-of-bounds" area will not be penalized if: you are avoiding otherwise unavoidable contact, you are pushed out, you lift while off track sufficiently enough so that no time or other form of advantage is gained. Fairly simple,right?
 
Remember if you change cars you only have 2 races left to do so. So after the 4th race, your car choice is final. Also, your ballast carries over to your new car, so don''t feel like you'll get a break with a 'new' car. 👍
 
What info? I believe I've updated whatever has changed. If you're talking about the run offs, that was never explicitly decided on, but was implied to not be legal, considering that GTP OLR doesn't particularly allow it.

If you're talking about the Subaru weight, I only found out about it Saturday, and updated the specs the next day.

nah not the track stuff, the vehicle spec's, I kept reading about changes made to the spec's of the Lexus, and could never find them, plus I didn't know that the standard subaru had weight loss until the race (as you seen me adjusting) when you did the spec check's,

It was stated that using the run off were only for mistakes, and as long as you didn't gain any advantage by using them, you would be free of a penalty. I am not witness to your running, as I was not in the room, but it sounds like you are openly admitting to flagrantly using "out of bounds" track area to gain a tire wear advantage. It's not a speed advantage, but if it lessens your tire wear, then it's an advantage nonetheless. Also, using runoff multiple laps in a row is a big no-no. Run off is there in case of a mistake so you aren't running into the gravel and ruining your car/race. It is not meant to be part of the track/racing line, so using it as such, is grounds for penalty.

Let the stewards decide from this point. But unless otherwise noted, the white lines marking the edge of the track are the boundaries, unless a rumble strip is behind them in which case the rumble strip is the boundary. Two tires must be on or within the boundaries to remain clean. If you are found to be "out of bounds" then discretion is taken as to whether or not, you warrant a penalty. Penalties can be given for, but not exclusively for: gaining ANY advantage whilst out of bounds, passing, flagrant use of run-offs. "out-of-bounds" area will not be penalized if: you are avoiding otherwise unavoidable contact, you are pushed out, you lift while off track sufficiently enough so that no time or other form of advantage is gained. Fairly simple,right?

Mate, I can't be bothered arguing over a game, but I will leave you with this, I was intentionally spun/ taken out by 2 people at Tokyo multiple times, I figured that's cool have it your way, it was stupid on my behalf to take revenge out on the circuit to one of them but nothing ever came of it, set match, done, the other, I didn't do nothing about, I sent a message to a steward explaining my/their actions, now if I was a lap down I understand and would do the same eventually but we were fighting for position and nothing came to fruition, now said person is crying foul over what ever actions I took, claiming I rammed them off, well when you go from one side to the other and unknowingly/ knowingly block someone who is already on the limit of the brakes, what else do you expect to happen, I always made sure to not gain position, even when my bump drafting of tyler failed and I pushed him wide I still made sure he kept his position for another 2 corner's, the same thing happened with Joetruck too,

now the run off area's were IMPLIED to not be legal, but never said to be illegal, now using them to gain tire wear advantage could be a big no no, but when your losing consistently 1.1 second's a lap how can it be an advantage, also, If I'm to have a penalty for using the run off's what ever my reason is then I still will win the race as everyone WILL get the same penalty as me as everyone used the run off area's as much as I did, I only went as far as people did around me,

But anyway, I'm only here on Joetruck's behalf, that and I get along with alefin, Penalty or not, I don't care, they're still my friends on my PSN list so you can either deal with it or I'm gone, 2 races and to much BS to go through, I can run with my friends when ever I please with out it, there are bigger issues in the world to get all personal BS over a game,
 
Dont follow anyone that uses the runoffs mate. Let those that do get pinged.
If me, Zach and Cam can battle damn nearly the whole race, and I only had to use it once (2 wide through that downhill right dont work :p) why cant people follow it?
When I battled Ubagubaz he never used it either.
No Im not perfect, I had contact with Uba at turn 1 and I hit Cam when my left rear got on grass, but following the track boundaries even when going fast is not hard.
If you do run wide, simply re-dress it.
 
Dont follow anyone that uses the runoffs mate. Let those that do get pinged.
If me, Zach and Cam can battle damn nearly the whole race, and I only had to use it once (2 wide through that downhill right dont work :p) why cant people follow it?
When I battled Ubagubaz he never used it either.
No Im not perfect, I had contact with Uba at turn 1 and I hit Cam when my left rear got on grass, but following the track boundaries even when going fast is not hard.
If you do run wide, simply re-dress it.

I never gained anything of value from running wide, and the first 5 or 6 laps was an awesome battle, 5 or 6 cars continually swapping position every lap is fantastic, but eventually came to the crunch, I wasn't involved initially in the incident but coming out of a blind corner I had no where else to go, so it was inevitable, but it was great, run off's were being used by all, but only to avoid contact, we were 4 wide in one corner, be it one was on the run off but still no advantage was gained by that,

I'll make the track stuff more explicit in the main post. I was under the impression that GTP OLR was pretty much standard.

As for the car specs, there's a link in the main post that's always been there. Just click on it or scroll down more. You should have told me you couldn't find the stuff earlier. You qualify people too :P

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7736065#post7736065

mate I'm not having a dig, so don't take it personally please, I for obvious reason's can't continue to view all the details on the thread as most of this is discussed when I'm sleeping, just a side affect from being in the future side of the world :lol: but I do try ctach up on the thread, had I been able to play GT5 last week I would have known about the changes from Joe, but black ops II cam out and the missus has taken over the playstation, but I still get to do my races, just don't really get to practice,

so as for the details, don't stress, I wasn't really aware that changes were being made, well I knew they were for the Lexus and Premium subaru, as for the standard Subaru as far as I knew I was the only person using one and I hadn't claimed it need more or less, but I don't use nor like the lexus so it didn't worry me, I trust things are being kept in check,

but speaking of, if the Lexus gets more weight or less BHP, perhaps the standard Subaru may need to be re assessed as it could become the next beast, I will happily try the next race at 374BHP instead of 384 BHP, but only if the Lexus has another restraint put on it, otherwise its pretty well matched, I would have asked for more BHP from it if the Lexus remained the same from original spec, just to allow the high RPM turbo to use all its torque value, but I think now the Lexus still has the advantage but its nothing more then a decent draft couldn't handle,
 
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TDZdave:
I could possibly be one of the individuals you referred to who took you out in Tokyo around lap 20. I was faster coming out of the second last corner pulled even with you on the short straight for a clean pass when your car suddenly turned sideways into my mid section. I continued on while you unfortunately went head first into the wall. I am sure it was not your intention to move into me so I assumed that you were using a controller and experienced some input lag because your car appeared to be very twitchy for much of the race. It was clearly not my intention to cause your wreck but I did have more speed and the racing line. I try to race very clean and fair and would not intentionally ruin someone’s race.
 
mate if it was lag that caused all that then I'm sorry for my stupidity following further on in the race, we were level I had always experienced on throttle understeer through that corner, but not that time round, if I was slower entering or what ever trying to not hit you the tires bit better at I got a bit of kerb which in turn kicked me into you, just trying to run clean, but you didn't run at Fuji so no I'm not talking about you, there was another person who give me a good solid punt in turn 3 at Tokyo, the narrow bit going up hill, they had just come out of the pits and caught me quick, I would have let them by once we got to the top of the hill because its bare 2 lanes through there but said person had no patience and spun me big time through there, and this person was the first person to cry foul over my "wrong doings" at Fuji, the race barely finished before the accusation's were flying through the text box,
 
I assumed that it was some kind of error and that why I did not complain. I just wanted to make sure that we were good.
 
Alright settled. No run offs except for mistake/avoiding accidents. If it is done for any gain in tire wear, speed, etc the person will DIE. :p
 
Yeah, I've explicitly elaborated on track boundaries in the OP.

Also, I want to remind people that the chat log in the online room is not meant for playing the blame game. If you guys have reports, you either need to PM the guy in question to work out any issues, or privately file a report with the appropriate stewards.
 
Also, I want to remind people that the chat log in the online room is not meant for playing the blame game. If you guys have reports, you either need to PM the guy in question to work out any issues, or privately file a report with the appropriate stewards.

No, instead what it's for is for random people who enter the room to type in nonsensical messages inan attempt to mess up one of the drivers racing. People in room 1 know what I'm talking about. those people should be the ones who DIE :grumpy:
 
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