lack of events

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I still haven't completed GT4 with all it's events and I found myself playing it with the Formula Grand Turismo on my vintage PS2 and my broken start button controller and I didn't care because it is such a good game, GT5 on the other hand...
 
PD did announce that the game is only 90% finished at the most ... this means there will be DLC and I wouldn't be surpriced if that means both cars, tracks and events ... if that's not the case I'll be very disapointed with a GT game for the first time ...
 
Id like to see events with special restrictions. How about a cheap car challenge where you can only enter with a car you spend less than x amount of credits on.
 
I completely agree. I really miss the overwhelming amount of events and tracks from GT4. It's been disappointing to unlock new events only to find out that some are made up of just one race. Instead of entrees, we get appetizers.

I hope an update comes soon with new events, but in some ways it's too late. As a huge GT fan, it hurts to admit I'm a little disappointed so far.
 
I have been a GT Series player from day 1. GT4 was an awesome game and kept me going for months. There was so much to do and it was so much fun. Then GT5 came and I was like "huh?". This Game just does not feel like a real Gran Turismo as far as I am concerned, and that makes me sad! Don't get me wrong, I love the physics and driving is good fun, the Tracks are generally interesting and there are good choices. The cars are good but sometimes the graphics are a bit iffy (smoke around a car or the shadow problem.) If GT5 really is only 90% done then it is going to be interesting to see how 100% is reached. If that is done via DLC that you have to buy then we are being ripped off.

Don't get me wrong - I LOVE Gran Turismo, I really do, but this offering somehow just leaves a bad aftertaste. As I have other consoles aswell I have played most other racing games out there and I have to admit that Forza 2 just did a better job in less time compared to GT. There is so much potential, please use it and bring back the GT that we all have come to expect and love!
 
I am also dissapointed in the amount of races and the lack of championships.
Also the amount of tracks is dissapointing.
I do understand that every track since GT1 wasn' t going to happen, but at least put Apricot Hill, Seatle, Infinion, Motegi and Hong Kong in.

I am trying to match the competition, but when a car is entering that is blowing everybody away, the fun is slowly getting out of the game.

B-spec however is a nice feauture if you will give Bob it' s time and let him learn. I now have a Bob at level 5 who just upgraded his driving style in corners and can handle powerfull cars. I made the second Bob yesterday an I noticed how dreadfull he drives. So be active in the B-spec is the key for a good result.

Still, the lack of events in the career mode, added up with no events at the dealerships is one big leap backwards.

If we could make more tracks with various layouts and even corners and locations, we could make up for online events/tracks and races.
But Untill now, I never ever noticed a sharp corner which I should drive in first gear or less then 50 km/h.

Overall GT5 is a dissapointing experience so far.
PD should improve much in the upcoming weeks...
 
Yeah this is the only thing that Im disappointed about in the game. I mean it had so much potential with all these cars and tracks, could have had like three times the events that featured in GT4, probably even more than that.

I just dont understand the lack of events, really can't be that hard to setup rules and track for a championship/single race.

I see now why they removed some of my all time favorite tracks in the series, like Seattle. They just didn't have the intention to have a lot of events so there was no room for it. They havn't even made the best use of all the tracks that actually are in the game.

Also a bit stupid to have the endurance races with two level spacing. I havn't touched A-Spec for two days now, since the fastest way I can reach level 30 is to do the Indy 500 twice, fine if it wasn't an oval track. Could have atleast made it Nascar only!

Because there really aint no Nascar endurance race in the game unless I missed something, or? If that's the case it just doesn't make any sense what so ever.

The game design is a huge, huge mystery to me. I could think of a lot really fun events with different rules just by looking at the car list. Also, the price cars you get are stupid most of the time.
 
The severe lack of events must be due to several reasons:

- Lack of premium cars. PD didn't want uninformed players to realize too soon about the two tiered system. A large number of events would have made the use of standard cars not only inevitable in most cases, but probably also too much frequent.

- Lack of tracks. Despite what some might say, there are too few unique tracks and unique track variations in the game. Rally/Dirt tracks are used only in Special Events, so that makes only 24 unique tracks out of 27 usable for normal A-spec races. Then we have Top Gear Test Track and Special Stage Route 7 that are not suited for most cars or for races at all. This reduces the number of usable unique tracks to 22. But what is left is mostly for medium to high-powered cars. Except a few layouts (Autumn Ring & Mini, London, Tsukuba, Cape Ring North, Madrid Short), there's a lack of slow and medium-slow, shorter windy tracks and variations.

- Different focus. As other users have written, perhaps PD though would get away with the lack of events due to the inclusion of online races?
Maybe they thought that since B-spec events (despite being the same) are separate from A-spec ones, players would have been happy anyway?
 
The way they did B-Spec it's almost like they thought "hey we just doubled the content we don't need more events" which is not even near true.

I still can't get over that plenty of events have only 1 race in them. 1! I can't imagine a lot of effort got put into this, "the meat" of the game.
 
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Everybody is sad about lack of events. if I have a big problem with GT5 , its exactly lack of events ! game has more than 1000 cars & about 30 tracks but only 45 (or 54) events. PD could make hundreds of events with these content. from manufacturer events to years events & ... .
PD can make hundreds of events in a few days now. cars & tracks are in disc & they should only make a name & pic for events ! I wish we will see a DLC (probably free !) soon !
 
LaBounti
Just ask yourself, what are you trying to accomplish in the game? 100% and the ending credits? After that sell the game? This may not be the game for you then. I got 60% in GT2 80% in GT3 60% in GT4. Im Currently at 60% in GT5 and only lvl 20....... I'm in it for the GT experience my % means nothing to me but this is the fastest I've ever gotten to 60% in any GT game. The last 40% are races I'm not even looking forward too.....

Do you just want to get 100% faster to be satisfied?
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What I want is to complete the game by racing a plethora of different races, events and championships, whilst at the same time buying various cars, tuning them, testing them, running time trials etc etc. But in order to complete GT5 it is apparent I'm going to have to race the same event(s) over and over and over and over again just to level up. Even then, once I reach a level required for a particular event, there's a pretty good chance I won't be able to race in it because the car I need won't be available to buy.

Some rhetoric questions:

What really is the point in having license tests if they aren't needed?

What's the point in having a 'fully customisable transmission' if it isn't actually fully customisable?

Why do all cars come fitted with a brake balance controller as standard?

Why can't we upgrade brakes?

Why is there so few A-spec races (did PD think we wouldn't notice)?

Why can't I speed up B-spec, and/or flick between both for long races?

Why are the majority of cars in the game 'used' and why such a small selection at any one time?

"Paint items and Horns".... Why?

Why do I have to pay extortionate fees to fix 'damage' that didn't actually happen in the first place?



I could go on forever, but I have a maxed out GT-R Spec-V waiting on me at Nurburgring. :sly:
 
I have to agree :indiff:

As i love old musclecars I was sad to see that the events were 1-3 races at the most.

Why not have championships for all classes?

I mean all the tracks are there so......

They could put in events for yaris , minis and stuff but what about all the other manufacturers?

I bet more would like to play say a Toyota event were u can use ALL toyotas and not only the lame yaris coz it sure as hell isnt fun for me to drive those crappy cars....
 
It's not just the amount of events but the containing races too. 3 race championships? And some events have just 1 or 2 races. Maybe PD thought too many events with the number of tracks would get repetitive. Still, I don't remember any reverse and night/rain variations in a-spec so...👎
 
GT5 for me, illustrates the fact that Japan is no longer a leading light in the gaming world.

13 years ago we got what we were given and loved it. Nissan Skylines were still things of wonder, not chav-mobiles, Japan was cutting edge and I wanted in, their cars were superior and their games were too. GT was an awesome fusion.

Things have now moved on. The overblown Skyline roster is tired, the gameplay is tired, the interface is tired, the general choice of cars doesn't seem as inspired as Forza from a western perspective. I just get the impression the thing is so Japanese that the game testers were too polite or something to say 'this needs work'.

But still I play it.....it still has 'something'.
 
for any of you who think this game isnt finished are living in a bubble. This game IS finished. The additional 30-40% extra that it clearly needs will be drip fed into us over the next year or so via DLC but of course, we will all have to pay for each download so they can make even more money from us. 👎

Unfortunately this is the way gaming is going these days so we will all have to lump it.
 
The perfect thread for me. I mean imo, forget about all the graphical issues, standard cars dilemma, or leveling system and whatnot. The immense, deep single player experience I felt since GT3 are just gone. And SHIRAKAWA Akira, those are good theories.

I don't want to judge PD's work and Kaz's decision or anything because I don't know how it goes over there, but it's clear that the modeling of the premium cars, weather implementation, and trying to push the ps3 in general have really took a toll on the overall product. Not that I care too much, but several, promised features are missing, and others we might get through an update. This tells me that the game was really rushed towards the end.

I like the leveling system, but if they're gonna have just a few events for us to gain XP, it'll force us to repeat the same events over and over, early on... it's just flawed.

Other than than that, please don't get me wrong. I like the game and appreciate Kaz and PD very much for making the game for us. While it may fall short from the usual GT experience, it is a lot more than most racing games.

While features like weather, visual damage, livery, or even free roam may be great, I really wish for GT6, that it'll have a lot of the old favorite tracks we loved from past GTs to be back, along with a much deeper single-player experience. As for online, I already love it so far. That's it. If not GT5, I hope GT6 will do it for me. All it needs in addition to GT5 is more of the old GT tracks to be back, and more events. Others will be like a bonus to me.
 
As I posted a week ago or so, I couldn't see the points of 1000+ cars if they're just there but have no point in racing. I was shouted down back then, but I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking it anymore.
 
We do need more events and tracks. It seems like Kaz decided to have the cars made first, then tracks, then the rest. We even get crap prize cars for the Extreme Series! Add more events and tracks such as Normal Car Championship, Daytona 500, SSR11, Paris, the list goes on.
 
Yeah, i was at lvl 21 when i decided to start all over again,
Because i got tired of all the grinding.
I really REALLY hope they add some more events.
 
have to agree with what most what people are saying. i'm level 26. ive done everything bar the Mazda 4 hour endurance that i unlocked last night. who the F wants to race around in a mazda MX5 for four hours anyway ? Personally i'd have completly scrapped B spec and concentrated more on A spec events.
 
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RustyNut
Agree 100%, the severe lack of events and the leveling system are by far the biggest let downs for me.

I think PD lost the big picture and focused too much on frivolous endeavors, the stupid facebook thing mentioned comes to mind, head tracking, 3d etc. It's undeniable, no rally events and we have all these rally cars in game, wtf was PD thinking?
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Completely agree..

and the still rubbish AI...
 
ChUnKieBaLLz
Hmmm...even though there is a lack of events in the game, the overall structure has been very nicely done. Right now I'm level 22, finished all my licenses, kart special, top gear, jeff gordon, and all the series except Extreme in gold. I have AMG school, GT Rally, Grand Tour, Loeb Rally and extreme events to gold, and am slowly working my way through the special events while checking for the Formula GT in used dealership. I have not bought a car except the required ones for racing and I have 2.5 million in credits. When I need help getting a car, I ask fellow GTP'ers on the chat room to borrow a car. I still have not grinded one single race yet and I can see myself getting to level 25 without repeating events once I get a gold in them.

Yes there is a lack of events, but that's if you're settling on silver or bronze on the special events and licenses and are mainly focusing on A-Spec. If you seriously don't feel like grinding, maybe go and get all your golds on the special events and don't go on a spending spree without careful planning.
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First I wish you lots of fun to get to level 30 and further - you soon will know what "grinding" means in GT5 💡 :sick:

And to your suggestion to do special events because of the lack of events: I bought a game that names itself "The real driving simulator" and not the "Real Special Events Simulator".

Even in GT4 I didn't like the special events - I only did a few of them... But I had nothing against them as they were optional - in GT5 you need to do them to progress in this stupid level system. (Ore else "grinding" starts at level 10)
 
GT5 is a big disappointmend for me so far. I feel cheated by PD and I finally quit buying games at the release date or becuase of reputation.

- No damage systtem (I am LVL 18 and I havent seen it yet. so for me no one exists)
- Rain and night races only in Special Events
- Standard Cars and no cockpit view
- Lack of Events

Yeah graphics are nice, physics are great and driving is fun. but I quitted playing after 2 weeks because I almost finished every event.
If you sub the endurance races from the game there are how many? 36 events? And I have to sub the endurance races because I have a life and I will not race for hours!

Bring on the DLC (I will not pay for this) and add 100+ Events or GT5 will die very fast.

Adding events to the game is a ridiculous easy job. Even the janitor could have added those. Add an image, add a name, define some variables for the rules - voile event done.
 
Online has rain and weather changes and is always challenging.

You state lack of events but then say there are events you don't want to do(endurance). So you mean lack of events you like. PD can't win. Impossible to give everybody what they want. Complete all the events to level 40 then complain about lack of events.

But online seems to be where they are headed so for the people that are absolutely against racing online, GT5 and probably future GT's probably won't be your cup of tea.

DaWu
GT5 is a big disappointmend for me so far. I feel cheated by PD and I finally quit buying games at the release date or becuase of reputation.

- No damage systtem (I am LVL 18 and I havent seen it yet. so for me no one exists)
- Rain and night races only in Special Events
- Standard Cars and no cockpit view
- Lack of Events

Yeah graphics are nice, physics are great and driving is fun. but I quitted playing after 2 weeks because I almost finished every event.
If you sub the endurance races from the game there are how many? 36 events? And I have to sub the endurance races because I have a life and I will not race for hours!

Bring on the DLC (I will not pay for this) and add 100+ Events or GT5 will die very fast.

Adding events to the game is a ridiculous easy job. Even the janitor could have added those. Add an image, add a name, define some variables for the rules - voile event done.
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Uscbryan
You state lack of events but then say there are events you don't want to do(endurance). So you mean lack of events you like. PD can't win. Impossible to give everybody what they want. Complete all the events to level 40 then complain about lack of events.
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GT4 had many more events despite having less cars.
 
LaBounti
GT3, was like GT1 and now Gt5 is like those 2

GT4 was like GT2 and GT6 will be like those 2. Even numbered games are the content heavy Gran Turismo's...

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+1 👍
Never buyed GT3 for the same reason.
imho:
- offline GT4 gaming was the best.
- PD reduced events to encourage online gaming
- too easy going through levels. Say, I just made licenses and two or three beginner challenges to reach level 17 (16? 18? I don't remember). After then I did all available challenges until stuck at level 20.... without entering any A-spec or B-spec event!!!! So most of the cars are available to me... and the real game has not started yet!!!!
Levels was a good idea, but badly implemented. I wanted more progression in career. Say, no XP for licenses, just unlocking features. I wanted to be forced to race level 0 cars for almost one, two weeks. Then go to level 1 cars and so on. Progression.
A-spec points was a better idea/implementation, that forced you in GT4 to race with the "slower car to beat the race".
 
Even a 'Create an Event' option would have been nice and not that difficult to implement compared to many of the other pointless features (3D, Head Tracking etc.).

Just give us the option to set our own rules and pick some tracks/race lengths and then have the game automatically determine prize money/XP rewards based on the variables.

That would have been a far more useful feature to include than just about everything else that has been added
 
Varegg
PD did announce that the game is only 90% finished at the most ... this means there will be DLC and I wouldn't be surpriced if that means both cars, tracks and events ... if that's not the case I'll be very disapointed with a GT game for the first time ...
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If this is true, KY is a liar. He also stated that when GT shipped, that it had everything he wanted on the disk already. At best the game is 60-70% in comparison to GT4. And how many patches have we had so far, and when was the game released. Without adding events, tracks, i agree that GT5 will die a slow death. I actually did manage to purchase F1 2010 like I said. Totally different type of cars/racing but I am having a blast. I definitely won't be standing inline for GT6. I will wait for reviews and you all on here. Until they have a huge overhaul, I doubt if I play GT5 religiously.
 
Someone please explain to me why O why, they cant give us an update which puts an option for a random event, where you enter with whatever car you have on your chosen track and the game puts opponents against you with the same sort of class car or PP???
AND you still get money or points for it!!

Its crazy, for instance....i'd like to race on the Rome track with my newly acquired Honda Integra type R race car, with racing tyres.....NO sorry, not allowed, please go to arcade and race with no reward and a replay with less options...thankyou goodbye.

Epic fail
 
FLIGHT50
I actually did manage to purchase F1 2010 like I said. Totally different type of cars/racing but I am having a blast. I definitely won't be standing inline for GT6. I will wait for reviews and you all on here. Until they have a huge overhaul, I doubt if I play GT5 religiously.
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So your solution is to switch to a game that only has 19 events and 24 cars?? Well, that doesn't make a bit of sense! lol
 
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