Lemans, Group C, general race cars

[MattZR1]

So I was wondering when you guys get let's say, a Sauber C9 or any other race car for that matter, is it better to just leave it stock or upgrade everything including rigidity? Let me know what you think.

 

[GTP_Monkey]

Buy 2 of each, keep one stock and play with the other.

 

[xX_F Alonso_Xx]

Fully upgrade it and those cars will be beasts. If however you are a purist, then leave them be. 👍

 

[shoeface33]

I normally do tyres and turbos. Things that can be removed easy. I dont ever feel or see the benefit of rigidity so i dont bother. Also should pd lift the trade ban again i wanna be able to trade my cars. I had a nightmare trying to shift my gt acadamy car because id modded it!!

 

[CMvan46]

Buy 2 of each, keep one stock and play with the other.

You have 2 saubers, 2 908s, 2 r10s, 2 787bs....?

I tune them slightly but only as needed.

 

[DA__dogg]

I upgrade them fully when I buy them. I have 6 of them I think and I like the Toyota One the best. I'm going to start using it in a LeMan's series that I am in. I have used the 787B so far in it but I'm bored with that car.

 

[boredgunner]

Don't bother with chassis reinforcement. It may do more harm than good. Being a high powered race car, these cars obviously have a very rigid chassis. I just buy racing soft tires and a high RPM turbo for them.

 

[graybeard]

I have all the cars of these types and, with the exception of changing the oil, I leave them as-is. They seem to have more than enough power, along with a bit of tuning (downforce, suspension, LSD, etc.) to beat any of the A.I cars, including cases where they are driving models identical to yours. If you do decide to upgrade one of these cars, you might think about trying options that are removable as opposed to permanent first and see where that gets you. Keep in mind that I'm and older driver who prefers a smooth ride as opposed to something just barely controllable (I am, however, a level 40 driver), so likely my driving style differs from yours.

 

[crossup]

I feel if you're a racer, theres no such thing as too good of a car so its always max it out for me...like we say in the giant scale R/c world- it has a throttle you know
BUT for most of the serious cars ie: Group C, LMP etc they are already maxed except for different turbo and body rigidity. The power is always noticed but I cant say I see any difference dropping the 20K cr for the rigidity kit. Racing softs to handle the grip chores...

 

[XPLOSV]

This is an interesting topic because I see so many people on here that modifiy race cars in general. I’m off the belief that modifying any mechanical characteristics is lame because I like to drive the race cars how they were build.

Now it could be argued that some Group C cars had A LOT more power for qualifying sessions, and I guess this is fair enough (not me personally). So to answer your question, I do not modify Group C cars (nor any race cars) except for in the chassis department.

crossup, I guess it’s a question of purity. The purist in me says leave it the way it is. If you modify race cars, you are essentially driving an unrealistic car, so why not just go straight to the X2010 which is the fastest car in the game?

 

[Sohvakettu]

I'm a purist when it comes to race cars. They were already build to the best that the rules would allow. If i wanted the fastest drive there is then i would only use that X1 or X2010 or whatever that clown car was called...

PS. I'm not saying that the X2010 is easy to drive competitively.

 

[fook7008]

If you want a faster car, buy a faster car, rather than shoving a fat turbo on everything by default. I go by the rule that it was designed and built that way for a reason

 

[MindlessRiff]

Just buy the upgrades that can be removed, then if you change your mind you can just take it off again and have a stock car again Anyway, most LMP and group C cars can only be upgraded through turbos, tyres and rigidity. The turbo will max it basically, and then you can take it off again to make it stock! Rigidity upgrade doesn't do anything noticeable for me so thats personal preference really.

Definitely no point in having 2!

 

[GTP_Monkey]

You have 2 saubers, 2 908s, 2 r10s, 2 787bs....?

I tune them slightly but only as needed.

Check my garage 👍 I have all the Le-man race cars inc 3 R10 1 being the stealth 4 x 787B 1 being the stealth 2 x R8 race cars 01 and 2 x R8 race cars 05 both the 908's 2 x Toyota GT one's several R8 LM '09 cars 4 mclaren F1 again 1 stealth 3 MP4's every ferrai twice except the F1 but working on that, just to list a few from memory also some come in different colours as well like the peskys and R8 01, my quest is to buy at least 2 of every car i like and im about half way.
And if i count my second account mad_mark_1 ive another bunch in Le-man cars there, used to trade and dupe from this account but now thinned it out a lot.

 

[GTveteran]

I like to have my cars at stock power as they were intended to be. They do get the full selection of racing tyres and my own set up. I don't bother with ridgity either.

 

[Ferrari_1996]

I've got a sauber shared if anybody wants to try it out. Or i think I've shared it. If i haven't I'll share it if anybody wants to borrow it.

 

[The piston]

I upgrade them fully when I buy them. I have 6 of them I think and I like the Toyota One the best. I'm going to start using it in a LeMan's series that I am in. I have used the 787B so far in it but I'm bored with that car.

Really !

I love that car, the noise, the way it drives, the looks (The looks kinda reminds me of the porsche 956 in a way, and I really wish PD didn't have the licensing issue and put that car into GT5). 787B, is a monstrous car how could you find it boring?

 

[killerjaaaaack]

I like different race cars so much that I rarely drive road cars. I usually take my favorites and get the upgrades. The power limiter is a really nice feature because you can scale back the car to the "unmodded" car if you really don't like the way it drives with extra power. I know there might be some differences in doing it that way, but eh I can't really tell.

 

[crossup]

Well, IF and thats a big IF, a reputable source said that the modeling process used in GT5 produces cars which reproduce in a significant way, the feel and performance of the actual car, I would be very inclined to do the purist thing.
BUT I believe the truth is the modeling process yields cars which feel different from others but I doubt the cars character gets magically injected just from track and wheel base, etc and such. Now if the chasis is modeled for accurate stiffness and strenght, shocks and suspension influences the the chasis and a myriad of other hardcore details, perhaps the feel would start to come thru. I dont see Chevrolet saying the '69 Camaro chasis has a torsional stiffness of XYZ and PD plugs in that number to its chasis sim....more like the dynamic model probably doesnt even actually consider chasis stiffness at all and the handling deterioraton we see is basically faked.

So, as always, to each his own, I'm not worried about adhering to questionable specs and if you are, I'm truly glad you found a way to enjoy GT5

From my experiance with R/C planes, simulators CAN capture the feel of the real thing, but having owned a '74 Lotus Europa, owned/driven many Camaros, 'Vettes, Porsche's I still havent found a driving sim including GT5 that makes me say , yeah, thats how it feels

This is an interesting topic because I see so many people on here that modifiy race cars in general. I’m off the belief that modifying any mechanical characteristics is lame because I like to drive the race cars how they were build.

Now it could be argued that some Group C cars had A LOT more power for qualifying sessions, and I guess this is fair enough (not me personally). So to answer your question, I do not modify Group C cars (nor any race cars) except for in the chassis department.

crossup, I guess it’s a question of purity. The purist in me says leave it the way it is. If you modify race cars, you are essentially driving an unrealistic car, so why not just go straight to the X2010 which is the fastest car in the game?