Lexus LFA: What am I missing?

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I bought my LF-A and I love it! I've only got the oil change glitch and sport soft tires on it and it's a dream! I've got a steering wheel and it's 30xs better than driving the LF-A with a controller. The turn in is sharp and precise and it hardly breaks loose at all. It may not be the fastest thing in the world but I think it drives rather well.
 
GregTheStig
I bought my LF-A and I love it! I've only got the oil change glitch and sport soft tires on it and it's a dream! I've got a steering wheel and it's 30xs better than driving the LF-A with a controller. The turn in is sharp and precise and it hardly breaks loose at all. It may not be the fastest thing in the world but I think it drives rather well.
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Are you driving all assists off, no abs?
 
t.o.
Are you driving all assists off, no abs?
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ABS is at 1. I like being able to stop when I need to ;) Everything else is off.

p.s. I will agree that it can be a handful on bumpier tracks or when you're really giving it the what for.
 
GregTheStig
ABS is at 1. I like being able to stop when I need to ;) Everything else is off.

p.s. I will agree that it can be a handful on bumpier tracks or when you're really giving it the what for.
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I've been wheeling it with everything off, hence having to give my brakes 3 days advance warning when I intend to brake.

We should have a LFA Track Day one of these days. Maybe everyone bring their cars to a certain spec level or whatever. Maybe we all bring our cars to budious's spec level II or so and run them around the track for a few.
 
^That definitely sounds fun, but I'm not at my PS3 every day so we'll see. I'd love to try it out though.
Like I said I've only upgraded my tires and got a few more ponies with an oil change, I'm sure there's some crazy fast LFAs out there.
 
I have to agree that the LFA is quite disappointing. Tested it on the Ring and the thing doesn't turn well at all. I have to turn the wheel much more with the LFA compared to other cars.
 
Tested it a bit after reading this thread and i think it's a fine car. Would be nice if it was bit softer when driving Nordschleife though as it seems to be a little jumpy there. Will get some more laps today... :)
 
but one thing i noticed, you'd have to compare it to a equal car (power, weight, etc.), and you will see it for what it is, and not trying to compare it against a car worth almost $400,000, and you will notice its actually a very good car for what it has, but not for what its worth
 
I think one thing we have to do is also get some base points on how we're driving the car and what not. If you got it all aero'ed up and using some good assists them it may be a nice car to wheel around but others may be driving it as-is and seeing it as less than satisfactory.

I just went around the 24hr Nurn with it but this time I put ABS to 1 instead of off. As expected it was a totally different ride altogether. You can push it WAY more than with ABS off. I challenge those who think it's a good ride to take ABS off (0) and all other assists off and do no more than put Sports Soft on (no upgrades at all) and then report. I know some of you have already put upgrades on so it's probably not possible for all to do but those that can and think it's a fine ride try it as suggested and let us know.

GregTheStig
^That definitely sounds fun, but I'm not at my PS3 every day so we'll see. I'd love to try it out though.
Like I said I've only upgraded my tires and got a few more ponies with an oil change, I'm sure there's some crazy fast LFAs out there.
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Well whenever anyone gets a chance. No big rush or anything. Just would be cool to see it in action in different hands.

I don't even think I did the oil yet. I did upgrade tires to Sport Soft though. That's all I did.

I did 24 Nurn in Practice in 9:32 or so. I wiped out a few times so I never had a real clean lap. Late at night and my concentration wasn't 100 percent. I'll try tomorrow when I'm more alert. lol
 
t.o.
I think one thing we have to do is also get some base points on how we're driving the car and what not. If you got it all aero'ed up and using some good assists them it may be a nice car to wheel around but others may be driving it as-is and seeing it as less than satisfactory.

I just went around the 24hr Nurn with it but this time I put ABS to 1 instead of off. As expected it was a totally different ride altogether. You can push it WAY more than with ABS off. I challenge those who think it's a good ride to take ABS off (0) and all other assists off and do no more than put Sports Soft on (no upgrades at all) and then report. I know some of you have already put upgrades on so it's probably not possible for all to do but those that can and think it's a fine ride try it as suggested and let us know.



Well whenever anyone gets a chance. No big rush or anything. Just would be cool to see it in action in different hands.

I don't even think I did the oil yet. I did upgrade tires to Sport Soft though. That's all I did.

I did 24 Nurn in Practice in 9:32 or so. I wiped out a few times so I never had a real clean lap. Late at night and my concentration wasn't 100 percent. I'll try tomorrow when I'm more alert. lol
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As mentioned earlier:

calan_svc
On SS tires, a stock LFA pulls a faster lap time on the ARM (which is all about handling) than the 599 (which has a better P/W ratio)... and it's about equal with the IS F Racing Concept ‘08.
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I've done quite a bit of "objective" testing on many cars, and the LFA is about where it should be; not exceptional, but not bad either.

Why would you want to turn ABS completely off? Even though GT5's ABS system is hosed, the real car has ABS so setting it to "1" seems perfectly reasonable.
 
calan_svc
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I've done quite a bit of "objective" testing on many cars, and the LFA is about where it should be; not exceptional, but not bad either.

Why would you want to turn ABS completely off? Even though GT5's ABS system is hosed, the real car has ABS so setting it to "1" seems perfectly reasonable.
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It also has TC and all that other stuff but AFAIK drivers/racers disable everything when they hit the track. Besides, ABS even set to 1 does alot more than just what "ABS" would imply. There's some stability management and traction control going on too, at the very least. Who knows what else is kicking in with ABS set to 1.

EDIT: This isn't an indictment on anyone. You paid for the game just as I did so you can do whatever you like. I'm making a point about the car in it's raw un-aided state and comparing experiences with those who do the same.
 
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Oh god if I want to push a car I don't turn the ABS off :D I've tried it in numerous cars and it just doesn't work for me when I need 100% out of my car, since all the AI seem to use the aids no matter what, at least from what I can tell. And I'm pretty sure you can't add aero kits to the LFA, so all you have to work with is the suspension for better grip.

But yeah I'd be up for an LFA track day :)
 
t.o.
I challenge those who think it's a good ride to take ABS off (0) and all other assists off and do no more than put Sports Soft on (no upgrades at all) and then report.
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Uhm... yeah. Even the Cappuccino can be a handful with no ABS. :sly: You guys who race with no brake assists have my regards, but heck, without some brake assist, it's way too easy to lock up even in stocking feet. Most of us serious racers have ABS at 1, but I haven't played around with brake settings yet. Maybe after my little project...
 
I hope to use mine for racing purposes, however... I've mostly been using my LFA for drifting. It's great as a stock drifter :D
 
t.o.
It also has TC and all that other stuff but AFAIK drivers/racers disable everything when they hit the track. Besides, ABS even set to 1 does alot more than just what "ABS" would imply. There's some stability management and traction control going on too, at the very least. Who knows what else is kicking in with ABS set to 1.
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Traction control with ABS :confused: You do realise they are essentially the opposite to one another...

Most professional drivers turn traction control off, but they certainly don't turn ABS off. In cars like the LFA, the ABS is tuned for circuit driving, so it would kick in a lot later than say in a Mercedes E class.

I don't even know of any cars that allow you to turn ABS off...
 
CarreraGT
Traction control with ABS :confused: You do realise they are essentially the opposite to one another...
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I know very well what they are, what are you getting at?

CarreraGT
Most professional drivers turn traction control off, but they certainly don't turn ABS off.
I don't even know of any cars that allow you to turn ABS off...
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Well the creme de'la creme of racing , F1, doesn't have ABS. Neither does NASCAR AFAIK.
 
http://www.gigawavemotorsport.com/wtcc.html
Forgot about this series which I'm very interested in reproducing in GT5

The first World Touring Car Championship (WTCC), which was open to Group A Touring Cars, was held in 1987. However, it was a victim of its own success and lasted only one season - the FIA fearing it would take money away from Formula 1.

The European Touring Car Championship (ETCC), which was cancelled after the end of the 1988 season, due to escalating costs but was resumed in 2001 with support from the FIA. Following pressure from influential manufacturers, the ETCC was renamed the World Touring Car Championship (WTCC as of the start of the 2005 season. It is nowis now considered the third most important FIA championship after Formula One and the World Rally Championship.

With rounds at major prestigious circuits, the series is heavily supported by car manufacturers BMW, Chevrolet and SEAT, with Honda also involved, but some manufacturers like Lada and Volvo are interested in the championship and they could enter in a future.[citation needed] It features compact and midsize cars based on Group N rules, yet modified to Super 2000 regulations, an intermediate level between the slightly modified Superproduction cars and the extinct Supertouring class.

Following the trend of recent FIA rules, cost control is a major theme in the technical regulation. Engines are limited to 2000 cc. Many technologies that have featured in production cars are not allowed, including variable valve timing, variable intake geometry, ABS brakes and traction control system.

The series are based in Europe (with races in Great Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, Portugal and Czech Republic and former races in Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands and Turkey) but the FIA is extending the championship internationally: now there are races in Brazil, Mexico, Macau and Japan; in 2009 there will be a new race in Morocco and there are some rumours of a race in Russia for 2010 season

WTCC cars are fitted with a digital on-board camera system, similar to that used for FIAGT. The entire on-board camera system, including all radio frequency equipment is supplied to Alphacam by Gigawave.
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t.o.
Well the creme de'la creme of racing , F1, doesn't have ABS. Neither does NASCAR AFAIK.
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I was referring to road cars. Most racing categories don't allows ABS/TCS, which is a good thing because it makes the racing much more entertaining. V8 Supercars have never allowed traction control or ABS, nor have NASCAR. And F1 has been so much better to watch since thay banned TCS.

I remember when the A1GP started and they weren't allowed to run traction control. I went to watch them in the wet at Eastern Creek one year and it was amazing to watch. I remember saying to myself I hope they ban it in Formula 1. Thankfully, they did 👍
 
I forgot why I kind of abandoned my attempt to do the WTCC in this game. Vast majority of the cars for the BTCC and WTCC aren't even in the game. Only one SEAT in the game, no Chevy Cruze, no BMW 320si.

Well I guess I'll just whip the old LFA around the track some more and try to focus on the road through my tears. :(
 
02civicsi
BMW 320i Touring Car '03 is in GT5

I have it & is available for trade after reset.
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I saw that but was wondering if , by it's age, is it even close to the newer models. Seeing that it's the 320i and not 320si I was also wondering if that made a difference. I should have posted that I saw this model but not the one I was referring to. Thanks for tipping me off though nonetheless.
 
We will never know because the 320si is not in the game but the BMW 320i Touring Car '03 is a good machine. It's obviously not Group C or LMP fast but for what the car is it's fun to race it. I am happy with the way it handles & knowing the power level it moves pretty good.
 
02civicsi
We will never know because the 320si is not in the game but the BMW 320i Touring Car '03 is a good machine. It's obviously not Group C or LMP fast but for what the car is it's fun to race it. I am happy with the way it handles & knowing the power level it moves pretty good.
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My only concern though is would it fit in the spirit and realm of a WTCC event? As you've probably seen in my videos ;) we like to recreate various events in the group I race with. But cars need to match up pretty close in performance. This is the thing that seems to be missing from GT5. It's hard enough there's no PI or as GT used to call it PP system to get a gauge but now you have to try to find cars that weren't meant for or not apart of these series and see if they can be adapted. I'm getting sad typing this up. lol.

You seem to really be on top of the cars in this game though. Any chance you want to be my "Tech Adviser/Race Construction Consultant" ;) ;) huh huh?

I'd be putting immense pressure on you, all cars MUST have cockpits however.
 
I agree that a lot of cars/race cars were left out that would have made it easier to set up a series. I have not seen any of your vids, sorry.

I have been a GT fan since the first game & GT is pretty much the only game I play. I waited to purchase my PS3 until GT5 was released for the sole purpose of playing GT5.

It would be great fun to be your Tech Advisor but that would take away time from me being able to play GT5 as much as I would like. That happens to be every waking moment I am able to. Thank you for the offer.
 
Watch how the girl has a "crisis" when the car turns on....that is why this car is awesome, it turns frigid women into giggling school girls.



Thats why it costs $400 large.
 

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