McLaren Sports Series: 570S and Gran Turismo

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GTboyz
Yeah, FINALLY something at least a bit different from them. I'm sick of them calling a facelifted 12C a "new car".
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Wait, they're doing what the VW auto group does (making a smaller car look like a bigger car) and you call that "different"?
 
legacyMACHINE
Wait, they're doing what the VW auto group does (making a smaller car look like a bigger car) and you call that "different"?
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At least their dimension and base is still different. Come on, with Mclaren, if you switch out the front end of the 12C and the 650S. People wouldn't notice.
 
GTboyz
At least their dimension and base is still different. Come on, with Mclaren, if you switch out the front end of the 12C and the 650S. People wouldn't notice.
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That's what VW AG does, most noted with Audi.

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They're way different.
 
That's what he's saying; if you swap the front bumpers, most people won't be able to tell which is the 650S & which is MP4-12C because they're identical from the bonnet back. There are visual cues such as the wheels or larger side intakes, but the general public will never pick up on them.
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That's what he's saying; if you swap the front bumpers, most people won't be able to tell which is the 650S & which is MP4-12C because they're identical from the bonnet back. There are visual cues such as the wheels or larger side intakes, but the general public will never pick up on them.
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Thank you...
 
Sports Series confirmed to come in different variants and more then 2 body styles.
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But when we got a chance to sit down with McLaren Automotive CEO Mike Flewitt, the first thing we asked about was the car that wasn’t there: the smaller, cheaper Sports Series (previously known by itscode name of P13) that will be unveiled at the New York show early next month. To our mild surprise, he was happy to answer most of our questions.

The basics are as we’ve previously reported, with confirmation received that the Sports Series will feature a carbon-fiber monocoque (a redesigned version of the 650S’s “MonoCell”) as well as dihedral upward-opening doors. It will be powered by a very slightly detuned version of the 3.8-liter twin-turbo V-8 that’s in the 650S and 675LT, and the transmission will be the same seven-speed twin-clutch ’box.

But then it gets interesting. The Sports Series is set to be a range rather than a single model, with naming following the power-output-then-letter pattern of the 650S and 675LT, which McLaren refers to as the ‘Super Series’. Two versions of the Sports Series will be launched, both coupes, and although Flewitt wouldn’t reveal the exact numbers he did tell us that both will “start with a five” and that—from launch—there will be both an entry-level ‘C’ variant and a slightly brawnier and more focused ‘S’.

“The C model will still be an absolutely complete car in terms of technology,” Flewitt said, “but the S becomes almost our ideal specification—more power, more focus, and so on.”

Then things become, well, even more interesting, with Flewitt pretty much confirming our report from all the way back in May that there actually will be a third body style, which we believe features a larger luggage compartment positioned behind the mid-mounted engine. “There will be more than two body styles, yes,” he said. “If you think of the Super Series, we’ve got the 650S Coupe, the 650S Spider, and the 675 Long Tail.” Which we’re taking as tacit confirmation that, yes, there will be an ‘LT’ Sports Series, as well.

Turning the conversation to money is where it turns really interesting, with Flewitt confirming that—depending on market—the entry-level Sports Series will be priced against either the Porsche 911 Turbo or the Turbo S. (In the U.S., the Turbo starts at $152,095 and the Turbo S at $183,695.) For a carbon-bodied sports car with more than 500 horsepower and a McLaren badge, that’s going to look seriously attractive to people in the market for a high-performance machine.

“What we’ve done—and really where the car was developed from—is ask how far can we come down the price gradient but retain the technology that defines McLaren,” Flewitt said. “That’s how we got to this price point. We didn’t set the price and work backwards, we said we can make a car and make an acceptable return, just about.”

Of course, this means the Sports Series is going to miss out on some kit compared to its pricier and more powerful siblings. It won’t get the 650S’s movable rear wing, nor its active suspension. And Flewitt is confident that the prospect of a cut-price McLaren won’t take many sales away from the existing range. “They have very different character. The 650S will remain the premium product of the two. It’s faster on the road, faster on the track, has more advanced suspension, and more advanced aerodynamics. It is a senior car to the Sports Series, and that will carry on. I’m not saying there won’t be any cannibalization, but it will be a small overlap.”

If everything goes to plan, the Sports Series is set to more than double McLaren production, with the company aiming to build around 2500 of the cars per year alongside 1500 of the Super Series models. The only thing we’re really missing is a picture of the production version, which we’ll be able to bring you very soon. For now, it’s time to place your bets on those power outputs!
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So they're names will more than likely be 500C and 500S. I'll update thread Title.
I wonder if they will go racing, GT4's maybe?
 
I think it is. In the first camo'd photo above, you can just barely make out the hump from the air intake towards the middle of the side window. And I think they are being clever with the camo and using something to cover up that space in the C-pillar.
 
It's possible. The first car definitely has a different engine cover treatment than the second one but the second one definitely has a 3/4 window where the other one has camo.
 

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