Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

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TVR&Ferrari_Fan
Here are five screen shots I took from one of the cut scenes "Contains Spoilers":
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If the pictures contained spoilers, why the hell would you post them? Put a link if you're going to post pics with major spoilers.
 
I have a question. If you haven't really played any of the old Metal Gear games will it make the game not as fun? That's the situation I'm in right now.
 
I've never played the previous MGS games and I still love MGS4, I'm actually considering trying to get my MGS3 I gave to a friend back to see if I can play that game.

Picked up the strategy guide for $10 too. :D
 
I picked up a second LE Strategy guide, didn't want to open the first, and I really want to read all the extra stuff that's in it (lots from what I hear).

Starting my Big Boss run later today...jesus this is going to be hard. I may make one more run though, and get the Assassins emblem first, that way I'm slightly more familiar with all of the area's and have my patterns down, should make it easier, I'm just worried about making it through two specific area's without using any health.
 
My box is fubar. It's half as bright as it should be in the items menu, and I cannot equip it. Below it has "Batter Life" down by 55% or so. It happened when changing between the Solid Eye and it. First glitch in the game as far as I know.

So, nobody knows how to get the .50 cal, or to the upper deck...
of Outer Haven?

I know, I should just buy the Mosin, the .50 cal and the MP5, but I was trying to find/earn them first.

Omnis, I'll try your suggestion to steal it away from Akiba. I'll let you know if it works.
 
Noah
I have a question. If you haven't really played any of the old Metal Gear games will it make the game not as fun? That's the situation I'm in right now.
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The game itself will still be as fun, but the story will have significantly less impact. I enjoyed the game and the extensive cutscenes so much because it finally put together and brought closure to a story that had intrigued me for years. I mean, I even did a middle school book report on the series. You can probably get away with playing only the MGS games and just read about Metal Gear, but I would advise against not playing any of them beforehand.

Solid Lifters
Omnis, I'll try your suggestion to steal it away from Akiba. I'll let you know if it works.
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Ok, very good. It would be something if it works, because the idea just popped into my head when I posted it. Good luck.

Oh, and if Akiba does drop it I wonder if it will be unlocked due to
Johnny's lack of nanomachines.
 
If this game doesn't get a unanimous "winner" for Sound Design from each and every "Best of 08" list, I will be very disappointed. There isn't a single game that does sound better.
 
Jeremy Ricci
If this game doesn't get a unanimous "winner" for Sound Design from each and every "Best of 08" list, I will be very disappointed. There isn't a single game that does sound better.
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My only gripe is that if you don't have 5.1, then you sometimes miss what certain people are saying in the briefings at certain camera angles.
 
Omnis
My only gripe is that if you don't have 5.1, then you sometimes miss what certain people are saying in the briefings at certain camera angles.
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I don't have 5.1 due to my center channel amp blew out. So, I've been waiting for the delivery of my new amp. The amp blew the night before I got the game. Perfect timing, huh?

Oh, and a no-go on getting the .50 cal. Can't pick him up or wake him up. Bah! I think I'll just buy it since I don't think you come across it in the game. Same goes for the MP5.

I guess you can't get to the top level of you-know-where. Nobody has ever done it.

Oh, and I got the Stealth Camo. Fun, but your camo rating goes to 95% if you ever go into Evasion mode. Sucks, but it's easily avoidable.

I'm going for zero kills, so I bought the Mosin since it was half off and I don't think you can find it. I just want to know, MUST you stamina kill the bosses for the first stage as well, or not? I already did that for the Solar Gun, and hate to repeat it if it's not necessary. And, how do you Stamina Kill Liquid Ocelot? I see he has a stamina and life bar. I always punch his brains out.
 
I know this is probably a stupid question but I don't seem to be able to get any items. The game tells me I've picked up something and I get a description of it. Once I dismiss that screen by pressing X I can't find the item again. I tried buying Playboy as a test and the same happens.

As I say I must be doing something stupid, any ideas?

Cheers,

Matt.
 
My friend just beat the game this morning and gave me a link to watch the last 7 minutes of the game. And before anyone says anything, no, I don't feel spoiled because I didn't understand 90% of what they were talking about.

But after watching the ending, I have to say this game is the best game I've ever seen that could rise such emotions. The sound, the music, the dialogue, Hideo is in his own league of a game directing. To be quite honest, I think, with the right people in place, this game could very well pass for an Academy Award-worthy movie. Hell, the script alone (from everything I've been reading up on) seems Oscar-worthy.

This is seriously on my must-buy list after I get a PS3.
 
I just wish I had the time to at least play it for over 20 minutes.
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
Here are five screen shots I took from one of the cut scenes "Contains Spoilers":

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Note: I have increased the brightness via Photoshop., but still I am hoping to tweak the brightness level in-game a bit better. So it suits my capture card more.
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You do know you can hook up a keyboard and press the printscreen button ingame do you?
Much easier than using a capture card.
You can also use a second gamepad and press r1 for the same effect.
 
Thanks V1P3R, but I thought I'd already looked there. I'll check again tonight when I get home.
 
You get 5 spaces and you have to either delete or swap out weapons.
 
OK, thanks that could be it. I'll give it a try when I get home from work, I'm supposed to be teaching a course at the moment ;-)
 
Jeremy Ricci
If this game doesn't get a unanimous "winner" for Sound Design from each and every "Best of 08" list, I will be very disappointed. There isn't a single game that does sound better.
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I remember Hideo Kojima got a lot of negative comments when he talked about refusing to do compressed audio. It looks like it has paid off.

DustDriver
You do know you can hook up a keyboard and press the printscreen button ingame do you?
Much easier than using a capture card.
You can also use a second gamepad and press r1 for the same effect.
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So, you can take pictures in-game? Even during cutscenes? Since I don't have the game yet, does it just save them to your Pictures section in the XMB?

Noah
I have a question. If you haven't really played any of the old Metal Gear games will it make the game not as fun? That's the situation I'm in right now.
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I am working on the original trilogy before jumping into four, just because I want to unconvolute (yep, I made that word up) the story as much as possible.

The Essentials Collection ($29.99, great deal) will give you MGS1-3 and MGS1 has a text review of the first two Metal Gear games. So the only story elements then missing are from Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, which I understand is not necessary to the whole but does shed more light on MGS3.

I am getting ready to start MGS2, as soon as I get over the newness of my two birthday gift games.
 
I have just started again but I haven't got my old weapons back, I got to drebin and still not weapons. Thoughts anyone?
 
That'll be because you clicked on start a new game which literally, starts a completely new game. At the end of the game you should save at the very last save game point, then instead of starting a new game, load from that saved game and it will start the game over but with your weapons and drebin points etc. It'd be nice to get an info box to advise you of this when the last save point comes up, but anyway, that's how I did it.
 
Question:

I'm an "older" dude. I'm not particularly interested in shooting things, I've never used my PS2 or 3 for anything other than racing games. If I get ONE game for the PS3 (other than racing titles) which one should it be:

MGS4

or

GTAIV ?
 
GTAIV you have to shoot things at certain points, in MGS4 it's 90% choice and the other 10% you don't even have to kill the flip side is, big portions of MGS4 revolve around conflict zones, GTAIV is a regularly running city. They're two very different games, if you must pick one over the other and can't have both try getting a go on one at a mates or somewhere first.

For me, it'd be MGS4, but I'm not you.
 
Biggles
Question:

I'm an "older" dude. I'm not particularly interested in shooting things, I've never used my PS2 or 3 for anything other than racing games. If I get ONE game for the PS3 (other than racing titles) which one should it be:

MGS4

or

GTAIV ?
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GTAIV rewards you, and forces you, to kill. MGS4 rewards you for not killing, infinity Bandanna, and suggests you avoid shooting and sneak through the game. When you do have to shoot something, you can make the choice to shoot with tranquilizer pistols, sniper rifles, stun or smoke grenades and beanbag shotguns. There's also a Solar Gun that uses solar energy to knock soldiers on their butts, yet is not lethal.

If you're set against shooting things, MGS4 is the only way to go.
 
MGS4 has the types of gameplay to nearly suit everyone - stealth, shooting, abilities to go your own way (like Solid mentioned above), replay value since there's lots of unlockables, good boss fights, etc.

I'd definitely recommended this over GTA IV. IMO GTA IV was a bit of a dissapointment with the amount of content it has.
 
Though I feel that MGS4 is a much better game, I would have to say that GTAIV may be a little easier to get into. MGS4 is a pretty hardcore game, and you really have to be into the story, as there are 20 minute cutscenes. Its quite ridiculous actually. But I like the story so its interesting, and the cutscenes can be skipped.

How the hell do I defeat Vamp in the fourth act??? Ive been shooting at him for like 30 minutes now and wasting all my ammo!!!

Nevermind. I figured it out.
 
Dead_Poetic
How the hell do I defeat Vamp in the fourth act??? Ive been shooting at him for like 30 minutes now and wasting all my ammo!!!

Nevermind. I figured it out.
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you have to knock him down, then while he's on the ground stand behind him, when he gets up grab him from behind, equip the syringe and press triangle to inject him with it. As soon as you inject him, the fight is over.

Nevermind. You figured it out :lol:.
 
I'm not averse to shooting the odd thing. ;) I used to play UT on my Mac (quite a lot of shooting!). I also played the original Deus EX (which sounds sort-of similar to MGS). I could never get into Splinter Cell on the X box, & found the "story" in Halo ridiculous - kind of aimed at a 15 year old mentality.

My question is: given a limited amount of time & interest, which of the two highest rated PS3 games (& "cultural phenomena" in their own rights) is, overall, more worth the investment of time. Difficult question, I know, but interested in genuine responses.
 
I honestly think that you would find GTAIV a little more amusing. You see, with MGS4, you really have to invest a lot of time even to advance a little in the game, due to the long dialogue and cutscenes. Im not exaggerating when i say, there are many times in the game, where you watch a 20 minute cutscene, play a 15 minute level or so, and then youre right back into the cutscenes again. And the mission briefings at the beginning of each act are just as long. Its a great game, and presented extremely well, but GTAIV, requires much less initiative to have a lot of fun.
 
Biggles
I'm not averse to shooting the odd thing. ;) I used to play UT on my Mac (quite a lot of shooting!). I also played the original Deus EX (which sounds sort-of similar to MGS). I could never get into Splinter Cell on the X box, & found the "story" in Halo ridiculous - kind of aimed at a 15 year old mentality.

My question is: given a limited amount of time & interest, which of the two highest rated PS3 games (& "cultural phenomena" in their own rights) is, overall, more worth the investment of time. Difficult question, I know, but interested in genuine responses.
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Personal preferences aside:

After reading your posts in the GT5P threads I can see you are a mature gamer. In that respect I would recommend you try MGS4 rather than GTAIV. While GTA is often also enjoyed by mature gamers MGS4 tends towards a mature audience IMO. I got both games the other day and having played previous titles from both series I can say they are both great games, which is my favorite? hard to say.

GTA is very open what you decide to do in the game is really intirely up to you but it generally revolves around crimes stealing cars driving like a maniac and killing people, fun but not to be taken too seriously. It takes place on a large open city which you can freely roam, the games big selling points is its diversity and to an extent it controversy not enitirely based on realism and tends to be a more 'fun' apporoach.

MGS has a generally more serious apporach and focuses on tactical but simplistic play with a movie like storyline (which is better than you would expect from a game) and the cinimatogrophy and excellent graphics to go with it. Gameplay is less diverse but isn't as linear as you might expect. Although you go through levels in a certain order and the storyline only progresses in one fashion the way in which a player can apporoach the level can be extremely different. Since the maps are fairly open the option of a stealth approach finding the best route to get past with as little noise as possible or charging through the middle guns blazing is one you make yourself to complete the game on the harder difficulty settings stealth is recommened so bare that in mind. Logic comes into play on quite a few occasions, not silly puzzles butworking through may require a few tactics now and again esspecially if you choose to be stealthy.

So in short I like GTA because I consider it a casual fun game which can be surprisingly immersive.

I like MGS because of its clever gameplay and extremely immersive story. It may seem a little weird at first but everything makes sense as you start playing through.

I hope this helps with a little more detail to help make a more informed decision rather than a preference based one.
 
Well I've finished all the Acts now and just have the epilogue to watch (need to put aside 90 minutes for that - so most likely tomorrow night), but I have to say that I loved the rest of it.

Simply one of the best games I have ever played.....

But am I alone in being just a bit disappointed with the final battle with Liquid, or me it was actually one of the weakest of all the boss battles. Certainly not enough to spoil the whole game, but still a bit of a let down, particularly as the Screaming mantis battle was great, nice reminders of Psycho Mantis. Still maybe the epilogue will lift it back up again, after all its not as if we have had to wait long to get all the answers.

My favourite act was 4, by a big margin, going back to shadow moses was excellent and I just hope that we get MGS on the store soon - as that act just made me want to play it all over again.


...now to see if I can get through it again before Bad Company comes out next week, with maybe a bit of the multi-player thrown in as well.

Regards

Scaff
 
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