Modern warfare 3

[Time_Attack]

Yeah I'm on PS3. If it doesn't boot me off and reset my rank again that is. If this persists I'm going back to BF3 in a hurry.

BTW for those wondering about elite/dlc the little elite booklet that comes with the game explicitly states monthly DLC over a span of 9 months.

 

[Legendary]

Day 1 and already you cant host a party and get it to join a game together on PS3. Surprise surprise. Oh well, the game is in really good shape otherwise.

 

[Bigbazz]

BF3 forums are full of people complaining that BF3 is broken and that they are leaving for MW3 etc, and lots of stuff about how they "bet" MW3 isnt buggy. I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the people on the MW3 people are complaining it is broken and how they are going to leave the game to play BF3? ^^

Games are always released buggy and slightly broken, BF3 is the same at the moment, lots of disconnects happening, frustrating but it was always going to be that way, I can't remember an online game that hasnt been like it at launch. As for me, I'm probably not buying MW3, I got hold of BF3 and pre-ordered skyrim, spent way too much on games lately!

Looking forward to seeing some videos and reviews of it though, want to see how the PC version compares to BF3 graphically and with the quality of the SP campaign.

 

[Ddrizle]

I just went with a friend to pick up his copy of MW3 at midnight launch and he bought me a copy for my birthday also. 👍 I'll have a few rounds before sleep to prepare for work tomorrow. 👍

 

[VEXD]

Without having played the game I'm fairly sure you can change the controls at any time. I see no reason they would take that feature out of the game.

OK, I use Southpaw, default for MW2.

That puts all the buttons somewhere irrelevant, but the stix are as follows:

The left stick I look with, up/down/left/right, and I have it inverted, and I use it to run, and hold my breath.

The right stick I move with, forwards/backwards/left and right strafing, and I use it to melee.

Please show me where I can set that up on the control screen, cos I tried every option, and the closest I get is southpaw default, which gives me everything I want; except now my left stick is for melee, and my right stick makes me run and hold my breath when down a scope.

Which is opposite.

Maybe I can't read a controls screen at half 1 in the morning, but I'm guessing I can.
Someone prove me wrong please.......



👍

 

[boomee]

review from digital spy http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/review/a349687/modern-warfare-3-review-xbox-360.html

 

[Ddrizle]

Hang in there people, they're working on it. Just found this out after trying to log in to Elite.

Teams are working to fix issues, following the launch of Modern Warfare 3.

Activision is aware of Call of Duty: Elite login problems, pointing to the massive volume of players attempting to use the service following last night's launch of Modern Warfare 3 as the cause.

"We are aware of the issue," read a Tweet on the Call of Duty Elite Twitter page. "Surge of new Elite registrations is creating reg & login issues. Teams are working now to increase capacity."

The Twitter page added: "Service is capturing all MW3 gameplay data. Data, heatmaps, and activity will be waiting for you upon registration."

Activision's Dan Amrich took to his blog to ask for patience.

"It's difficult to launch not only a giant game like MW3 but a huge, scratch-built service like Elite simultaneously - and try to do it worldwide," said Amrich.

"So, give 'em time, and don't panic in the interim. They're working through the night so maybe things will look different in the morning."

If you're a little rusty on what's happened so far in the Modern Warfare franchise, check out our comprehensive story so far feature.

 

[slims]

Rank resetting, broken party system, game freezes, OP guns and elite doesn't work. This is exactly why I don't buy games at launch. I feel sorry for people who paid for elite and can't even access the service on day one.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I will rent it tonight after work for the campaign but I have 0 hype for this game. They produce a COD every single year with very few updates. Plus as you can see, they always have issues when they first launch. I give it a few days maybe a week before the people start hacking and cheating like crazy just like MW2.

 

[Sureboss]

So what are these OP guns then?

 

[SmokingCones]

^ Pretty much all of them. You kill and die faster in MW3 IMO.

 

[Sureboss]

So they aren't OP then. The UMP was OP in MW2, if they're all like that then it's not an issue as you have an equal chance.

I only play Hardcore anyway, so killing/dying faster is a good thing.

 

[VEXD]

So they aren't OP then. The UMP was OP in MW2, if they're all like that then it's not an issue as you have an equal chance.

I only play Hardcore anyway, so killing/dying faster is a good thing.

Not now you don't pal.

Now you have to play regular TDM until you have ranked up enough to play such delights as HCTDM.

With your stix the wrong way around, if you're me......

👍

 

[TheCracker]

Not now you don't pal.

Now you have to play regular TDM until you have ranked up enough to play such delights as HCTDM.

With your stix the wrong way around, if you're me......

👍

What are the maps like Dave?

 

[Famine]

Not now you don't pal.

Now you have to play regular TDM until you have ranked up enough to play such delights as HCTDM.

Same as MW2 then - though you could be invited into HCTDM and higher-level unlock events as part of a party, just not join them through "Find game".

 

[Sureboss]

I never noticed that in MW2.

(Not that I'm questioning you)

 

[Famine]

That's because it's a very, very long time since you were level 6. Try it again on a new account

 

[C-ZETA]

Most of my mates have gotten MW3 today already. I haven't gotten it, although I hadn't seen any gameplay before today. I have seen some now though, and I really am questioning any reason to buy this game.

The absolute flaw of this game that turned me off the instant I saw it is that it looks no different at all from MW2 in HUD and even menus. This is after two years of its release, so selling MW3 as a new game like this is not correct. It is not a MW3, from what I've seen, more of an MW2 'Continued'. All that's different are new maps, (not so many) new guns, a slight change in other options and that's it. Yes, COD4 to MW2 might have been slightly similar but at least the general feel of the gameplay changed...Survival sounds like IW trying to match Treyarch with a modern Zombies clone. Elite just sounds like a service for those addicted to the game...and they're apparently giving out 9 DLC packs from what I've heard...which is silly quite frankly...and now I've heard of all these faults as well...clearly MW3 has been almost a bad joke by IW, they have had 2 years to make what is essentially a rehashed MW2. I will probably get it eventually but the game is not worthy of a title such as MW'3'. At the moment though BF3 and MW3 have been given equal scores by Gamespot...BF3 looks much better than MW3 does right now, at least some change has been made to the general multiplayer system.

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[Sureboss]

That's because it's a very, very long time since you were level 6. Try it again on a new account

I'll take your word for it!

 

[Akira AC]

Most of my mates have gotten MW3 today already. I haven't gotten it, although I hadn't seen any gameplay before today. I have seen some now though, and I really am questioning any reason to buy this game.

The absolute flaw of this game that turned me off the instant I saw it is that it looks no different at all from MW2 in HUD and even menus. This is after two years of its release, so selling MW3 as a new game like this is not correct. It is not a MW3, from what I've seen, more of an MW2 'Continued'. All that's different are new maps, (not so many) new guns, a slight change in other options and that's it. Yes, COD4 to MW2 might have been slightly similar but at least the general feel of the gameplay changed...Survival sounds like IW trying to match Treyarch with a modern Zombies clone. Elite just sounds like a service for those addicted to the game...and they're apparently giving out 9 DLC packs from what I've heard...which is silly quite frankly...and now I've heard of all these faults as well...clearly MW3 has been almost a bad joke by IW, they have had 2 years to make what is essentially a rehashed MW2. I will probably get it eventually but the game is not worthy of a title such as MW'3'. At the moment though BF3 and MW3 have been given equal scores by Gamespot...BF3 looks much better than MW3 does right now, at least some change has been made to the general multiplayer system.

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I will say that you are actually right, the graphics are better than MW2's but these doest the match other games that have come out recently (better detail on weapons and characters =/= better graphics), however there is a good management of visual aesthetics. The content have been largely increased but the mission structures and gameplay are mostly a resemblance of COD4 gameplay, Sledgehammer games went into safe mode and did everything that COD4 did, the missions are good but is mostly based on COD4 stuff.

But, the amount of content and the options in SP are actually very large, there are plenty of scenarios to play and many ways of re-playability(spec-ops/survival/campaign mission), there are so many new scenarios that in some ways makes the game a sequel, the gameplay however hasn't move an inch from MW2 and now guns seem to make more damage than they normally do.

In general is a great single player/coop game, the campaign is a million times better than BF3's(which is frankly crap compared to the MP, so many mistakes done there) but the multiplayer is largely the same with gameplay modes and stuff brought from BO. For me there is no way back to that noobtube nonsense, since you can save yourself from all that in a tank in BF3.

For me, great singleplayer, not too much of a multiplayer, in general good game but once I get all the achievements I will get back to BF3 MP, which is far superior.

 

[Icarus25]

Most of my mates have gotten MW3 today already. I haven't gotten it, although I hadn't seen any gameplay before today. I have seen some now though, and I really am questioning any reason to buy this game.

The absolute flaw of this game that turned me off the instant I saw it is that it looks no different at all from MW2 in HUD and even menus. This is after two years of its release, so selling MW3 as a new game like this is not correct. It is not a MW3, from what I've seen, more of an MW2 'Continued'. All that's different are new maps, (not so many) new guns, a slight change in other options and that's it. Yes, COD4 to MW2 might have been slightly similar but at least the general feel of the gameplay changed...Survival sounds like IW trying to match Treyarch with a modern Zombies clone. Elite just sounds like a service for those addicted to the game...and they're apparently giving out 9 DLC packs from what I've heard...which is silly quite frankly...and now I've heard of all these faults as well...clearly MW3 has been almost a bad joke by IW, they have had 2 years to make what is essentially a rehashed MW2. I will probably get it eventually but the game is not worthy of a title such as MW'3'. At the moment though BF3 and MW3 have been given equal scores by Gamespot...BF3 looks much better than MW3 does right now, at least some change has been made to the general multiplayer system.

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Let me bring out the old standard "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" line. There's nothing wrong with the HUD or the menus. The dev teams would get reamed more for changing it up than they will for not changing it. The whole point is that it's familiar, there's no need to learn everything again.

Survival is only a Zombie clone because people kept complaining that there wasn't a wave-based mode in IW developed CoDs. IW didn't want to use zombies, so they put their own spin on it.

Elite is more suited to those who are really into the game, but it's free so who cares. It's only a subscription service if you're really, really into the game. Again, no hindrance to the normal player, you're not being forced to buy it or even use it. And they're not doing 9 DLC they're doing 4, just like Black Ops and two more than MW2 had. The only mention of 9 DLC is for Elite subscribers who get bits of DLC each month starting 3 months after release instead of having to wait for it to come out as a group.

 

[Ddrizle]

It's interesting how Call Of Duty Elite has been down for hours now and there has been absolutely no information about it at all on major gaming sites
.

 

[C-ZETA]

For me, great singleplayer, not too much of a multiplayer, in general good game but once I get all the achievements I will get back to BF3 MP, which is far superior.

To be fair, I haven't seen any single player gameplay yet, but I know for a fact that multiplayer is easily the absolute selling point of the series, and in this case its performance has been unacceptable from what I've seen...MW2 was my first COD and I have all of the CODs since 4 and MW2 has still been my most played, and that had a good campaign. The advantage of the MW series over Treyarch's games is that the campaigns are at least connected where as Treyarch's campaigns are all separate. Spec Ops I can't say for at the moment as I haven't seen any gameplay of that, never cared for it much in MW2 anyway but oh well. Survival I haven't necessarily seen myself either but from what I've heard from one of my mates it is apparently no more than a rough copy of Zombies put in the modern day.

Let me bring out the old standard "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" line. There's nothing wrong with the HUD or the menus. The dev teams would get reamed more for changing it up than they will for not changing it. The whole point is that it's familiar, there's no need to learn everything again.

Survival is only a Zombie clone because people kept complaining that there wasn't a wave-based mode in IW developed CoDs. IW didn't want to use zombies, so they put their own spin on it.

Elite is more suited to those who are really into the game, but it's free so who cares. It's only a subscription service if you're really, really into the game. Again, no hindrance to the normal player, you're not being forced to buy it or even use it. And they're not doing 9 DLC they're doing 4, just like Black Ops and two more than MW2 had. The only mention of 9 DLC is for Elite subscribers who get bits of DLC each month starting 3 months after release instead of having to wait for it to come out as a group.

But they could have at least made it not a total copy and paste. All the other games are effectively the same but with different layout styles...where as MW3 is an identical one to MW2. Can't they have at least changed the style of it at least a little? Not talking about the HUD in general really just the style being a copy-paste job from one to the next.

Again, I haven't known much about the game until now so I can't say for sure about everything as I never knew about it, just seen multiplayer gameplay today and already had my say on that, so oh well.

 

[boomee]

Most of my mates have gotten MW3 today already. I haven't gotten it, although I hadn't seen any gameplay before today. I have seen some now though, and I really am questioning any reason to buy this game.

The absolute flaw of this game that turned me off the instant I saw it is that it looks no different at all from MW2 in HUD and even menus. This is after two years of its release, so selling MW3 as a new game like this is not correct. It is not a MW3, from what I've seen, more of an MW2 'Continued'. All that's different are new maps, (not so many) new guns, a slight change in other options and that's it. Yes, COD4 to MW2 might have been slightly similar but at least the general feel of the gameplay changed...Survival sounds like IW trying to match Treyarch with a modern Zombies clone. Elite just sounds like a service for those addicted to the game...and they're apparently giving out 9 DLC packs from what I've heard...which is silly quite frankly...and now I've heard of all these faults as well...clearly MW3 has been almost a bad joke by IW, they have had 2 years to make what is essentially a rehashed MW2. I will probably get it eventually but the game is not worthy of a title such as MW'3'. At the moment though BF3 and MW3 have been given equal scores by Gamespot...BF3 looks much better than MW3 does right now, at least some change has been made to the general multiplayer system.

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My friend you need to read earlier in the thread elite is free unless you want the premium service for which you get 20 DLC plus early updates. Again what is wrong with the game feeling like MW2/ COD4 when that is what the series is known for. Its called taking the safe approach I just put both games in back to back battlefield only looks good when you have it on pc IMO. But these games should not be compared because they are definitely different in alot of ways.

 

[TheCracker]

But they could have at least made it not a total copy and paste. All the other games are effectively the same but with different layout styles...where as MW3 is an identical one to MW2. Can't they have at least changed the style of it at least a little? Not talking about the HUD in general really just the style being a copy-paste job from one to the next.

Unlike the HUD of, say, Gran Turismo?

I for one is glad that they've not changed the HUD. After playing the BF3 demo i just found it's HUD to be hugely annoying - so much going on that i couldn't focus on the task at hand. Like has been said, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

 

[C-ZETA]

Unlike the HUD of, say, Gran Turismo?

I for one is glad that they've not changed the HUD. After playing the BF3 demo i just found it's HUD to be hugely annoying - so much going on that i couldn't focus on the task at hand. Like has been said, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Uh...that's changed a lot over time, don't know what you're talking about.

I did notice while briefly playing the beta that BF3's HUD did also seem a bit bright and flashy in spots. Not that it mattered when knowing my lack of general skill in shooters I couldn't get a kill anyway

 

[Famine]

I don't quite follow the "MW3 is MW2 2" complaints - if you like MW2, what's the problem with it being more of it, only a bit better? Similarly, BF3 really is BFBC2 2 and I hated BFBC2...

 

[C-ZETA]

I don't quite follow the "MW3 is MW2 2" complaints - if you like MW2, what's the problem with it being more of it, only a bit better?

Games get older quicker than most new shows on ITV sometimes (see GT5 in its current state for me actually). MW2 is decently old now among some games so MW3 should be making further progress over it at this time. Again this is only multiplayer I truly speak for as I haven't seen any other modes just yet.

 

[TheCracker]

Uh...that's changed a lot over time, don't know what you're talking about.

Not really. You get exactly the same information - rev counter - speed - gear selected - total time - lap time - best lap - mini map - lap counter - position in GT5 just as you did with the original Gran Turismo 14 years ago. They may of added a few bells and whistles over time, but it's basically the same.

 

[Akira AC]

To be fair, I haven't seen any single player gameplay yet, but I know for a fact that multiplayer is easily the absolute selling point of the series, and in this case its performance has been unacceptable from what I've seen...MW2 was my first COD and I have all of the CODs since 4 and MW2 has still been my most played, and that had a good campaign. The advantage of the MW series over Treyarch's games is that the campaigns are at least connected where as Treyarch's campaigns are all separate. Spec Ops I can't say for at the moment as I haven't seen any gameplay of that, never cared for it much in MW2 anyway but oh well. Survival I haven't necessarily seen myself either but from what I've heard from one of my mates it is apparently no more than a rough copy of Zombies put in the modern day.

Is not a matter of performance, is rather a matter of gameplay as a whole, MW games very well know by their gameplay, if you play once MW2's multiplayer you probably played this one as well, is largely the same thing. Compared to experiences that you get in other games recently the experiences cant be compared (yes you get new killstreaks and all but such experience cant be compared to the ability of mounting in a jet/heli/tank and blew everything).

The hole survival mode can be consider as Zombie modern version, but is actually very good and very well planed, so I wouldn't dismiss it that much since is actually very entertaining (is very fun in its own way).

As far as the campaign goes, I've been playing these games since COD2 and this is the most "exaggerated" campaign from all of them. The storyline is someone connected (and arguably MW3 creates a storyline bridge to connect events from COD4 to MW games), but it isn't as stellar or credible as COD4 (or other MW games for that matter). Is good, but is as stereotypical as you can expect from these kind of games.

Treyarch has the bad habit of not pace well their singleplayer modes. MW games with its level design and gun mechanics are designed to take different approaches and provide the best experiences by giving several options to a player to tackle a problem (Direct gunfight/flanking options/flashbang assault options), in this area is where MW3 shines, but it shines because is largely the same COD4 mechanics(same stealth approaches, same level and mission structure's and same large scale battle mechanics).

I could describe on specifics the similarities between MW3 and COD4 but such thing will create a considerable amount of spoiler that I really don't want to post.