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If its fixed, then why hasn't Jr. Won since how long?

I think it's more of trying to make the race more exciting by being a little hyper with cautions.
 
Cowboys965
If its fixed, then why hasn't Jr. Won since how long?

I think it's more of trying to make the race more exciting by being a little hyper with cautions.
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I think this may have been pointed out previously but if they didn't call cautions for the littlest things like debris or a bit of oil and those variables altered the outcome of the race, people would be up in arms. It's better to be safe than sorry in such a situation.

Definitely not fixed though, I agree.
 
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I think this may have been pointed out previously but if they didn't call cautions for the littlest things like debris or a bit of oil and those variables altered the outcome of the race, people would be up in arms. It's better to be safe than sorry in such a situation.

Definitely not fixed though, I agree.
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I'd say it's rigged and is biased, not fixed. What is suspicious is how Gordon has been the main target for this bad luck.
 
TomMcD
I think this may have been pointed out previously but if they didn't call cautions for the littlest things like debris or a bit of oil and those variables altered the outcome of the race, people would be up in arms. It's better to be safe than sorry in such a situation.

Definitely not fixed though, I agree.
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No caution - "What a boring race"
Caution - "What- that ruined his chances!!!"
 
Is it me or am I beginning to see abit of a developing Double standard here?
 
We have races where there were little cautions and they've been reffered to as "boring" AND in some of those races, Gordan had bad luck. We have a race with abit more cautions then lately and suddenly when Gordon gets caught up this time, its a setup or "Rigged". Of course there's also the "Vanilla driver vs. Whiner" argument(though thats been happening for years), but this seems more obvious.
 
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We have races where there were little cautions and they've been reffered to as "boring" AND in some of those races, Gordan had bad luck. We have a race with abit more cautions then lately and suddenly when Gordon gets caught up this time, its a setup or "Rigged". Of course there's also the "Vanilla driver vs. Whiner" argument(though thats been happening for years), but this seems more obvious.
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I don't think it's rigged. Just more bad luck on his end, even though I am a Gordon fan.

If you're using ICEYOU as a representative then... Er..... :indiff:
 
Cowboys965
I don't think it's rigged. Just more bad luck on his end, even though I am a Gordon fan.

If you're using ICEYOU as a representative then... Er..... :indiff:
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Normally I wouldn't even bring it up if it was just him, I would just dismiss it as he being himself (Completely unreasonable). Unfortunately, its more then just him.
 
He seems to have gathered a group of whiners.

Also, the posts I've made haven't been serious about the luck stuff, or the "scripted" races.
 
So, is Kurt gone for good now?

I'm guessing part of their "handshake deal" was Kurt actually being allowed to race. Perhaps he can join Elliott in the "Former Cup Driver in the Nationwide Series Full Time" club.
 
I don't think that Kurt is gone for good, though he doesn't have many chances left. Hell, at this point I would say he's at last chance status with NASCAR. One more incident like that and Kurt might be out of the sport for good.
 
David Reutimann will drive the #51 car this weekend. And James Finch going to have a "sit down chat" with Busch.
 
3 drivers changing seats because of one idiot.

Dave Blaney takes over in the 10 and Tony Raines takes over in the 36.
 
GTPorsche
3 drivers changing seats because of one idiot.

Dave Blaney takes over in the 10 and Tony Raines takes over in the 36.
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Odd, the other seats didn't have to change since their are plenty of drivers either young and looking to come up or some series veterans that still want to race.
 
Trevor Bayne would be a good pick, but he's under contract with Roush and Ford, so no chance there.

I honestly don't know of anyone that would be able to take the seat for one race.
 
RACECAR
Odd, the other seats didn't have to change since their are plenty of drivers either young and looking to come up or some series veterans that still want to race.
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The reason is that Reutimann was to run the 10 this week and TBR wanted to shuffle its roster so that the best driver they had was in the 10. Raines was probably a last minute call. I believe that Vickers COULD be in the car but that won't happen until Sonoma at the earliest.
 
Usually about time we hear about all road course deals and road course ringers coming in... IIRC in Nationwide Villeneuve is the 22, and in the Sprint Cup the #12 of Sam Hornish Jnr will be there, for Sonoma?
 
GTPorsche
Trevor Bayne would be a good pick, but he's under contract with Roush and Ford, so no chance there.

I honestly don't know of anyone that would be able to take the seat for one race.
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What about Steve Park? Think Baldwin had him at one time in a Cup Car
 
I think Steve Park is unofficially retired.

Jeremy Mayfield is banned from NASCAR as well, but even if he wasn't, he's worse than Kurt Busch.
 
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