NASCAR 2012 Thread

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Bad day for Gordon. 5th place is pretty irrelevant for him if he can't win (which he needs to do).
 
At least Jimmie earned this win.
 
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Love how for some people, its automatically a bad day when Jimmie Wins :lol:

I'd hate to see someone actually ragequit just because of it.
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Well, when you have Edwards being out of contention early, Kenseth crashing out, Kyle running 2nd, and given what happened yesterday, it made the choice a lot easier. :indiff:
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jimmie win a 6th title this year, though I would like to argue that Smoke can pull off another championship as well.

Gordon can still make the chase, but he is on the thinnest ice he has ever been on right now. Being 7X points away from 10th, things aren't looking so good. But don't forget, last year, he won 3 times on tracks that nobody expected him to win on. This time of the cup season is where Gordon shines.
 
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Well, when you have Edwards being out of contention early, Kenseth crashing out, Kyle running 2nd, and given what happened yesterday, it made the choice a lot easier. :indiff:
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If he was winning alot of races, I could kinda understand. Ok he's won about three (or four? ), but is not like its 2006. Yeah, one of my drivers didn't win but since the guy winning isn't a driver I deeply despise as a person, I'm not really sure its a total bummer.
 
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If he was winning alot of races, I could kinda understand. Ok he's won about three (or four? ), but is not like its 2006. Yeah, one of my drivers didn't win but since the guy winning isn't a driver I deeply despise as a person, I'm not really sure its a total bummer.
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Probably mentioned this before but NASCAR's losing my interest, so that compounds it. Not saying I'll stop watching completely, but it's at the point at which I could miss a race and simply shrug.
 
Speaking of Jeff Gordon, ever notice a pattern that he has had?

2007 - Good year.
2008 - Bad year.
2009 - Good year.
2010 - Bad year.
2011 - Good year.
2012 - Bad year.

So 2013 - Good year?
 
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Speaking of Jeff Gordon, ever notice a pattern that he has had?

2007 - Good year.
2008 - Bad year.
2009 - Good year.
2010 - Bad year.
2011 - Good year.
2012 - Bad year.

So 2013 - Good year?
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I smell crazy, superstitious things happening.

Edit: Getting reports that the Cup race had very poor attendance.
 
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Edit: Getting reports that the Cup race had very poor attendance.
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One of my relatives went there.

NASCAR just doesn't seem to appeal to the masses anymore. They are too busy watching either football, baseball, or basketball.
 
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One of my relatives went there.

NASCAR just doesn't seem to appeal to the masses anymore. They are too busy watching either football, baseball, or basketball.
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To be fair, sports attendance has gone down for just about everyone ever since the recession.
 
outlaw4rc
Probably mentioned this before but NASCAR's losing my interest, so that compounds it. Not saying I'll stop watching completely, but it's at the point at which I could miss a race and simply shrug.
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As I stated in an earlier post, I'm strictly watching NASCAR out of habit at this point due to the lack of on-track action. Once football season starts this year, I'll probably just log on to NASCAR.com to find out who won.
 
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One of my relatives went there.

NASCAR just doesn't seem to appeal to the masses anymore. They are too busy watching either football, baseball, or basketball.
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Nascar would not be in the situation they are in if they had not implemented the chase, and Johnson winning 5 straight championships.
 
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Nascar would not be in the situation they are in if they had not implemented the chase, and Johnson winning 5 straight championships.
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Or had the economy not tanked a few years ago.
 
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That too, but Johnson's dominance really didn't help either. I remember now...2008 was ****ty year for nascar.
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More so the economy than anything, tickets aren't super cheap.. Racing in general seems to be taking a beating (with the exception of F1, maybe.) Look at Sports cars (ALMS,ILMS,Grand Am, FIA GT3, etc) and Indy car, attendance and entries are low.. Nascar still has to be the most popular form of auto racing within North America.
 
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One of my relatives went there.

NASCAR just doesn't seem to appeal to the masses anymore. They are too busy watching either football, baseball, or basketball.
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NASCAR really boomed in the 90s, but has slowly fallen off since then to the point where it is at now.

If you look at football, that sport has changed alot to keep up with the times. College teams no longer run 3 yards and a cloud of dust triple option plays, everything is spread out, wide open, big plays, attacking downfield faster, more exciting in the short run. Even the NFL has added alot of rule changes to make the running game less effective but the passing game more effective, increasing the explosion of the game and it's pass by moving away from running part of the game.

Since 2000 the NBA added the 3 second rule, no hand checking and other rules to increase scoring and plays around the rim like dunks.

Baseball was struggling but was boosted by the steroid home run chases for most of the past 10 years.

NASCAR simply has not kept up with the faster pace of today's society. Cuts in lengths of the races should have happened years ago. Theres too many races which make it more of a chore to keep up with thirty-six 4 hour races then a pleasure in today's fast pace society. The chase was never necessary and wouldn't have been in a 28-30 race season. Now all that matters is the last 10 races, the first 26 are all about whos the last one in or out. It doesnt matter that Dale Jr is leading the points now, he'll be something like 8th when the chase starts.

And as Mac K points out the economy really didn't help. Still though NASCAR needs to make wholesale changes to it's races and layout to stop the slide and become modern.
 
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NASCAR simply has not kept up with the faster pace of today's society. Cuts in lengths of the races should have happened years ago. Theres too many races which make it more of a chore to keep up with thirty-six 4 hour races then a pleasure in today's fast pace society. The chase was never necessary and wouldn't have been in a 28-30 race season. Now all that matters is the last 10 races, the first 26 are all about whos the last one in or out. It doesnt matter that Dale Jr is leading the points now, he'll be something like 8th when the chase starts.

And as Mac K points out the economy really didn't help. Still though NASCAR needs to make wholesale changes to it's races and layout to stop the slide and become modern.
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Thank god for those 2013 cars then...and I agree Junior's huge points lead is totally irrelevant.
 
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My first change would be to cut the races from 500 miles to 400 miles across the board. Only the Daytona 500, Southern 500, and Coca Cola 600 should be longer then 400 miles. Consider cutting some races to 310 miles and calling them the 500k.

Shorter races would help in so many ways including saving the teams money spent on tires, fuel, and wear and tear on the engine and other components.

Reduce the schedule from 36 races to 30 and get rid of the chase. Have the season end in early October instead of late November. Add a 3rd road course race in Montreal.
 
With the new points system, I don't think the chase is necessary.

Also, the race this weekend was pretty uneventful. What caused Kurt Busch to go out of the race?
 
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I smell crazy, superstitious things happening.

Edit: Getting reports that the Cup race had very poor attendance.
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It's bad luck to be superstitious.

And yes, when they showed the stands there were alot of people dressed as empty seats.

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The problem with making the races shorter is it'll probably kill attendance. It'll make tickets more expensive, (do you think the tracks will slash ticket prices as well?) and race fans will be getting less for their money, so they may as well stay home and watch it on tv.
 
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