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Motegi Speedway: To tune or not to tune? That is the question. See page 4, post 117.

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Hey Peelster. If you could update my name on the roster to reflect my new name(s) it'd be appreciated. Hopefully I'll be back up and running in a few weeks.
 
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Whitetail
Hey Peelster. If you could update my name on the roster to reflect my new name(s) it'd be appreciated. Hopefully I'll be back up and running in a few weeks.
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I liked the original way you asked better. I had a answer for it and everything.
 
Whitetail
Haha let me hear it still?
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"Well, it pains me to hear about redbull, those admins will pay if I have anything to say about it. I am a little nervous about letting a brand new Safety Car driver in, but he did give you a pretty good referral, so I think I can allow it. Welcome aboard, Mr. Whitetail. You start Sunday at 6pm."

Poll: I changed my mind. Poll up.
 
Whitetail
Maybe not this Sunday. But hopefully soon. 👍
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Okay. :( I would dislike this post if I could. (Not the hopefully soon part.) Good luck with your PS3. If it wasn't the family PS3, I would suggest trying to take it apart and clean the laser, and if that fails buy a replacement. I'll be buying a new laser, I ended up having to rebuy GT6 digitally, when my laser went out on me and I couldn't fix it before this series was scheduled to start.

I bought it for $40 and then the following week they had a sale on it for (I think) $20. :(

DcrRaikkonen
@Peelster1 did you remember the rule about ghosting to avoid damage.
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No... rules updated.

Rulebook Update: Added penalty 20b. a rule about "ghosting" your car.
 
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Alan2134
Peelster, can I ghost my car for driver pass me under caution if I get damage.
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Read the Penalty section, it says what you're allowed to do under Caution. Penalty 20b.

rcb929
Count me in! #43 - Part Time
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Welcome! Were you planning on finishing Half Season A, doing Half Season B or just showing up every now and then?

Rulebook Update: Updated the Points System section. Points are now assigned to the car, not the driver. Also added a Primary Driver system, which is included in that update in the Points System section.
 
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rcb929
Just showing up when I can. Probably not till January
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In that case, I'll open your slot up but put you in as a side-note for Half Season B. If someone decides to take your car full time, you'll need to find another number (if one is available) or substitute when Primary Drivers aren't racing. Keep in mind, you still can become the Primary Driver if you substitute enough times. (See Points System in the OP for more details.)
 
NJS Race #2 - NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka @ Suzuka East Circuit
No video this time. I may record the replay for upload at a later date.

NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka Starting Grid
1st: #18 Dcrimnal [56.613]
2nd: #20 NearFear [58.470]
3rd: #42 trobes29 [58.613]
4th: #24 Peelster1 [59.892]
5th: #88 braunracing88 [1:00.637]
6th: #48 Alan_2134 [1:01.564]
7th: #11 Jayden5536 [1:03.957]
8th: #14 carl2448 [1:05.940]
DNS: #83 BRRT_Angel [Notified No Show]

NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka Official Results
1st: #42 trobes29 [175 Points]
2nd: #20 NearFear +23.083 (+1 Penalty Lap, -1 Catch-up) [170 Points]
3rd: #88 braunracing88 +1 Lap [165 Points]
4th: #24 Peelster1 +1 Lap [160 Points]
5th: #11 Jayden5536 +1 Lap [155 Points]
6th: #18 Dcrimnal +4 Laps +50.996 (+4 Penalty Laps) [150 Points]
DNF: #42 carl2448 (Lap 85) +41 Laps (+4 Penalty Laps, +1 Second Penalty) [146 Points]
DNF: #48 Alan_2134 (Lap 80) +46 Laps [142 Points]
DNS: #83 BRRT_Angel [0 Points]

NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka Race Stats
Time of Race: 1h:57:49.573
Average Speed: 88.693 mph
Margin of Victory: +23.083
Caution Flags: 4 for 21 Laps
Lap Leaders: 5
Lead Changes: 9

NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka Best Laps
trobes29: 48.377
NearFear: 48.884
carl2448: 49.102
Peelster1: 49.260
Dcrimnal: 49.245
Jayden5536: 49.287
braunracing88: 49.912
Alan_2134: 50.510 (invalid)

Bonus Points and Penalty Points
trobes29: +10 (+5 Led a Lap, +5 Led Most Laps)
NearFear: +5 (+5 Led a Lap)
Peelster1: +5 (+5 Led a Lap)
braunracing88: 0
Jayden5536: +5 (+5 Led a Lap)
Dcrimnal: +5 (+5 Led a Lap)
carl2448: 0
Alan_2134: -45 (-45 Incorrect Transmission)
BRRT_Angel +138 (+138 1 Place less than Last Place Points for notifying Officials of being unable to start.)

Adjusted Points Standings for NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka
1st: #42 trobes29 [185 Points]
2nd: #20 NearFear [175 Points]
3rd: #88 braunracing88 [165 Points]
4th: #24 Peelster1 [165 Points]
5th: #11 Jayden5536 [160 Points]
6th: #18 Dcrimnal [155 Points]
7th: #42 carl2448 [146 Points]
8th: #83 BRRT_Angel [138 Points]
9th: #48 Alan_2134 [97 Points]

NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka Total Laps Led
trobes29: 101
Peelster1: 10
NearFear: 8
Jayden5536: 5
Dcrimnal: 1

NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka Laps Led
2. DCrimnal +5 Points
3: trobes29 +5 Points
4: trobes29
5: trobes29
6: trobes29
7: trobes29
8: trobes29
9: trobes29
10: trobes29
11: trobes29
12: trobes29
13: trobes29
14: trobes29
15: trobes29
16: trobes29
17: trobes29
18: trobes29
19: trobes29
20: trobes29
21: trobes29
22: trobes29
23: trobes29
24: trobes29
25: trobes29
26: trobes29
27: trobes29
28: trobes29
29: trobes29
30: trobes29
31: trobes29
32: trobes29
33: trobes29
34: trobes29
35: trobes29
36: trobes29
37: trobes29
38: trobes29
39: trobes29
40: trobes29
41: trobes29
42: trobes29
43: trobes29
44: NearFear +5 Points
45: NearFear
46: NearFear
47: NearFear
48: NearFear
49: NearFear
50: trobes29
51: trobes29
52: trobes29
53: trobes29
54: trobes29
55: trobes29
C56: trobes29
C57: trobes29
C58: NearFear
C59: NearFear
C60: Peelster1 +5 Points
61: Peelster1
62: trobes29
63: trobes29
64: trobes29
65: trobes29
66: trobes29
67: trobes29
C68: trobes29
C69: trobes29
C70: trobes29 +5 Points Most Laps Led
C71: Jayden5536 +5 Points
C72: Jayden5536
C73: Jayden5536
74: Jayden5536
75: Jayden5536
76: Peelster1
77: Peelster1
78: Peelster1
79: Peelster1
C80: Peelster1
C81: Peelster1
C82: Peelster1
C83: Peelster1
84: trobes29
C85: trobes29
C86: trobes29
C87: trobes29
C88: trobes29
C89: trobes29
Red Flag 16:04:051
C90: trobes29
91: trobes29
92: trobes29
93: trobes29
94: trobes29
95: trobes29
96: trobes29
97: trobes29
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126: trobes29

Penalties & Adjustments Log
The lap indicated is the lap of the leader that was shown by the game. The location is the location of the driver incurring the penalty or adjustment.
Qualifying: smith1001 Forfeiture of number under GTP OLR Section 03 A.
Start: Alan_2134 Incorrect Transmission. Alan_2134 -45 Points.
Lap 7: Turn 1 carl2448 Minor Track Boundaries Penalty carl2448 +1 second added to total time.
Lap 26: Turn 1 Dcrimnal (Lap 25) Driver Standards warning for pushing a lead lap car that's battling for position off track when being a lap down.
Lap 39: Turn 8 Dcrimnal (Lap 37) Minor Track Boundaries Penalty Dcrimnal +1 second added to total time.
Lap 55: Pit Entrance Alan_2134 (Lap 49) Pits when pits are closed. End of Line Penalty served as of Lap 54.
Lap 59: Pit Exit carl2448 Pit Line Violation. Drive-through Penalty not served. carl2448 +1 Lap as of Lap 64.
Lap 60-61: Restart NearFear Incorrect Lane. Drive-through Penalty served on Lap 62-63.
Lap 60-61: Restart braunracing88. Accelerating before the Restart Line. Drive-through Penalty not served. braunracing88. +1 Lap as of Lap 64.
Lap 62: Frontstretch NearFear Speeding Penalty, Zone 1 102 mph, Zone 2 95 mph, Zone 3 65 mph. Pit Road Speed Limit 45 mph. Drive-through Penalty not served. NearFear +1 Lap as of Lap 66.
Lap 68: Pit Entrance Dcrimnal (Lap 67) Pits when pits are closed. End of Line Penalty served as of Lap 70.
Lap 70: Pit Exit trobes29 Pit Lines Violation. trobes29 Drive-through Penalty served as of Lap 73.
Lap 73-74: Restart braunracing88 is ahead of the outside row lead car (Alan_2134) at the Restart Line. Control given back by the Start/Finish Line. Penalty averted.
Lap 78: Frontstretch braunracing88 (Lap 77) Driver Standards warning. Wait for oncoming traffic to pass before merging.
Lap 80: Start/Finish Line NearFear beats the leader to the line. NearFear catches-up -1 Lap. NearFear back on Lead Lap. Official as of Lap 84 Turn 1.
Lap 80: Turn 4-5 trobes29 Driver Standards warning. This is a NASCAR race, not a Drift Tournament.
Lap 84: Turn 1 NearFear Driver Standards warning. When off track, make sure you regain control before accelerating.
Lap 85-86: Frontstretch carl2448 (Lap 84-85) Driver Standards warning. Drop the accelerator when trying to merge.
Lap 86: Frontstretch Dcrimnal Driver Standards warning. When you see a lot of smoke in front of you, you should get on the brakes instead of going 144 mph towards it. Slow down when there is a wreck in front of you.
Lap 86: Frontstretch carl2448 (Lap 85) & Dcrimnal 3 Lap Penalty for causing a wreck under Caution. Post-race. carl2448 +3 Laps, (+4 Laps Total) Dcrimnal +3 Laps.
Lap: 90: Red Flag carl2448 (Lap 88) & Dcrimnal (Lap 89) Get a wave around after being lapped in pit stop glitch confusion.
Lap 90-91: Restart Dcrimnal changes lanes before the Start/Finish Line. Drive-through Penalty not served. Dcrimnal +1 Lap as of Lap 94. Drcrimnal +4 Laps total.
Lap 96: Turn 1 Peelster1 Driver Standards warning. Don't look as you merge, look before merging.
Lap 111: Turn 8 Jayden5536 Driver Standards warning. Don't look as you merge, look before merging.
Lap 115: Turn 8 Jayden5536 (Lap 114) Moderate Track Boundaries Penalty. Jayden5536 +3 seconds added to total time.
Lap 116: Turn 8 Jayden5536 (Lap 115) Minor Track Boundaries Penalty. Jayden5536 +1 second added to total time. +4 seconds total.
Lap 117: Turn 8 Peelster1 (Lap 116) Minor Track Boundaries Penalty. Peelster1 +2 seconds added to total time.
Lap 126: Finish Dcrimnal Driver Standards warning. Please don't pull handbrake 180's when crossing the Finish Line.
 
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I've sent reminder's over PSN, but I'll put one here. We have the Motegi Speedway race tomorrow. If you plan on attending, give this post a "like" or reply. Also, be sure to "sign-up" for the event in the Community section.
 
Peelster1
I've sent reminder's over PSN, but I'll put one here. We have the Motegi Speedway race tomorrow. If you plan on attending, give this post a "like" or reply. Also, be sure to "sign-up" for the event in the Community section.
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I don't think I'll be making it this weekend Peel. I have lots of stuff to grind/update/etc. before I can actually start playing.
 
Rulebook Update: Adjusted the penalty section adding two pre-race penalties as well as a merged Drive-through Penalty under Green and End of Line Penalty under Yellow section. Many penalties have been re-numbered.
 
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Hello guys. I should be able to drive once again next weekend so if @Peelster1 could send me an invitation to the series group page on GT6 it'd be appreciated. 👍
 
Update: Added track rules for Clubman Stage Route 5 as well as the Transmission into the OP. I am behind on Suzuka East scoring. It's of course really busy this time of year, I'll get it out as soon as I can. Please be patient. Thank you.
 
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Merry Christmas every one!! I finally have time to edit the race at montegi, now if all goes well then it should be up later tonight if not tomorrow
 
  • Rulebook Update:
  • Removed some parts about penalties from non-penalty sections. Those sections still describe what drivers are supposed to do, but no longer explain what happens if they don't follow those rules.
  • Moved wording about pitting while pits are closed from the Caution Procedure Section into the Penalty Section. Section: End of Line Penalties, Penalty 4. Hopefully this will make the rulebook less redundant.
  • Added more specifics to the Special Stage Route X Qualifying Section.
  • Updated the Disconnection Caution Procedure. (Moved lapped down info from Section M to Section I. Added Section Ia, which, in the event there are lapped cars, adds an optional pit stop segment in which drivers will not lose track position for pitting right before the 1 to go signal is to be given.)
  • Added a 2nd Start clause to the Start Section, if the race is Red Flagged before the completion of the 1st lap.
  • Added a wave-off clause to the Restart Section. (Was used at the Motegi Race.)

Race Info Update: Even though transmission info is located in the OP, it is now also in the Race Info post.
(Post #3.) Also added mph to km/h conversion for Pace Speed. @NearCptNitro

NJS Race #2 - NASCAR Thunder Special - Suzuka Official Results
I hope all drivers will take a look (especially at the penalty section where I have included a few Driver Standard warnings.) We'll go over it during the driver's meeting tomorrow, but you might want to take a look anyway just in case you have questions.

Points Updated to After 2 of 10 Races
Well after a busy Christmas week I was finally able to finish scoring a race! The bad news is that with race #4 at Clubman Stage Route 5 tomorrow, I will once again be behind a week. I expect I'll be using the weekend at Route X to do scoring for Fuji and Route X and be all caught up. I'll catch up before then if able, it's just unlikely. The good news is the next scoring is Motegi Speedway, so hopefully I won't have to do too much rewinding to see from multiple perspectives. The bad news is that race took 3 hours, so I highly doubt I'll be able to complete the scoring for Motegi and Route 5 in one week.
 
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About Drivers Meetings: During a driver's meeting, asking questions is fine. Excessive complaints on the other hand are not. It's unsportsmanlike and wastes time. Comments like "that's a stupid rule" are not constructive in the least. If you have criticism please direct it through pm or the thread. Thank you.
 
I do have one piece of 'constructive' criticism before I go on my multi-day reflection. Can we have the drivers meeting for constructive and engaging questions rather than a 15 - 45 minute sit fest by having rules and boundaries on the thread via photos and otherwise for each race. I feel like review the rules through a race director reciting them is a waste of time to those who have read the forum already. I believe this would also give drivers a reason to be more active on the forums. I also believe it will save everyone some time before qualifying or the green flag.

Thank you for your time.
 
Drivers should still read post though its like the nascar rulebook. The changing lane thing should be changed its puts people in bad postions and could lead to wrecks. I think it should be if driver doesn't go before the box/line you should be allowed to pass them
 
carl2448
i agree but people will find ways to get around it or try to lawyer their way out of a penalty
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If its not specific yes, that can happen. Speaking of complaints, it would be easier not to speak if we had questions at the very end or less in the drivers meeting in general. Just the option of having questions in the middle is a headache and I am tired of pausing mid session for people going to the bathroom. It makes me just want to say 'yes' to everything just to get the meeting over with and leave for 20 minutes.
 
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Everyone, please read this post from Speedweeks 2014.
Specifically, the part that is "an annoucement about driver's meetings". It very much applies here.

NearCptNitro
I do have one piece of 'constructive' criticism before I go on my multi-day reflection. Can we have the drivers meeting for constructive and engaging questions rather than a 15 - 45 minute sit fest by having rules and boundaries on the thread via photos and otherwise for each race. I feel like review the rules through a race director reciting them is a waste of time to those who have read the forum already. I believe this would also give drivers a reason to be more active on the forums. I also believe it will save everyone some time before qualifying or the green flag.

Thank you for your time.
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I am consistently trying to find ways to shorten the drivers meeting. (I hate how long it is too.) I don't know what people will know about and what people don't know about, which is why I just go through everything. I applaud those who have read through the rulebook, but I doubt everyone actually has. (I don't have specific people in mind either.) Even I forget about some rules, another reason for the weekly refresher. Maybe I can figure out a way to shorten the Caution Procedure and Start/Restart explanation, but other then that I don't know what else I can do. I know you've said talk about important sections, would you care to list the sections you deem important?

I really like the photo idea and will implement it if possible. I'd do it myself but with hosting, testing, practicing, racing and scoring the series as well as life I'm pretty booked. @GTP_Bambi has kindly agreed to take the photos and he will send those photos to you for photoshopping, like we discussed after the race. I'll (like I already do) draw up the pit entry lines, pit exit lines, restart box, and track boundaries definition and when you upload the images, include them in the post. One thing about these photo's that worry me is that everyone will need to have access to their computer right before the race. I'm not sure if that is possible for some people, as many people upon joining the room have asked me what the transmission for the race is. It is in this very thread!

carl2448
i agree but people will find ways to get around it or try to lawyer their way out of a penalty
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@NearCptNitro is right, if it's clear, you can't lawyer for it. Unfortunately, as clear as I try to be, there are still some grey areas that may always be grey. It has been suggested that if a person gets penalized post-race and they didn't know about it because they didn't read the rulebook, tough luck. This is how I handled NASCAR and my IndyCar Series last year and it left me with far too many post-race penalties to give out. I agree with the philosophy of "even if you didn't read it, you agreed to it." (Like every ToS agreement in which part of the agreement is "I have read and agree to these terms." You know 90%+ of people don't read those. I applaud those who have read through the rulebook, but I doubt everyone actually has. (I don't have specific people in mind either.) Even I forget about some rules, another reason for the weekly refresher. Unfortunately, if we do it the way where people may or may not have read the rulebook and they get penalized because they didn't know about a rule, it will lead to what happened last year; too many post-race penalties. I am not willing to accept that. It makes for a lot of work for myself, as well as a bad looking official results section.

DcrRaikkonen
Drivers should still read post though its like the nascar rulebook. The changing lane thing should be changed its puts people in bad postions and could lead to wrecks. I think it should be if driver doesn't go before the box/line you should be allowed to pass them
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Please read what I typed to carl2448, above this reply, in this post. As far as the changing lanes rule is concerned, if the car in front isn't going by the time they hit that 2nd restart line (I'll have to figure something out if there is only 1 line.) the car behind will be allowed to make the pass. It's always been a grey area for NASCAR, and it's very difficult to make it clear. I'll try to reword it in the rulebook, in order to make it more clear. I'd like a rule where you can go anywhere you want as soon as the Green Flag is called, but that isn't NASCAR.

NearCptNitro
If its not specific yes, that can happen. Speaking of complaints, it would be easier not to speak if we had questions at the very end or less in the drivers meeting in general. Just the option of having questions in the middle is a headache and I am tired of pausing mid session for people going to the bathroom. It makes me just want to say 'yes' to everything just to get the meeting over with and leave for 20 minutes.
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About specifics, please read what I typed to carl2448. I know we talked about the questions issue post-race, but I also want to answer you here. I feel like if we have questions held until the end people will forget somethings. "Write it down" you say? Going back and revisiting an issue that was mentioned minutes ago still requires a reintroduction to that issue that takes additional time. By asking the question when the issue comes up, that can be avoided. Having questions allowed at certain points in the middle, allows me to know who is paying attention. (Partly, I'm still worried about those very silent people.) It also breaks up the monotony of going through everything at once. Knowing people and how attention spans work, if you have one person talking and talking and talking, eventually you tune them out. It's not even a conscious thing sometimes, it just happens. It's kind of like reading a large block of text and switching from reading to skimming without realizing it.

It does feel like you can't ask questions because that adds to the total time it takes, I don't want people to feel like that. It's been "joked" about, "don't ask a question", "just shut up so it can be over with faster". That's not okay. As far as the bathroom thing is concerned. Please go to the bathroom, even if you don't have to go, before we start qualifying. There will always be a period of time when I leave the practice room to make the qualifying/race room. Use it! That is when I go too. I feel like this is elementary school all over again. "Teacher can I go to the bathroom?" We're older then that, so plan it out. (Last night was an emergency and I understand that can't be helped. When you're sick you're sick.) I'm am tired of people leaving mid-session too.

Speaking of leaving mid-session. It is against GTP OLR to leave mid-race. Under GTP OLR, you are supposed to park your car in pit road and have it remain there until the end of the race. I will make an exception, if you drive to pit road, park your car and type out (you should also say it, if you can) that you will be retiring. After that has been acknowledged by the race director or a race official, you may exit the lobby. Without proper notification, the Disconnection Caution Procedure is followed, as that's what it seems like has happened. If you plan on retiring, just go to pit road and type that you are retiring. Leaving without proper notification is downright inconsiderate and will not be tolerated. Any drivers exiting the lobby without proper notification will be harshly penalized. You have been warned.

Speaking of the GTP OLR: It really seems like you guys haven't read the GTP OLR or the Good Racecraft Guide. Those rules apply in addition to the NJS Rulebook. On multiple occasions, when I have mentioned a rule from the GTP OLR I have had people state that they didn't know about that rule. Sometimes I feel like I should read those during the drivers meetings as well. I'm not going to do that, they are already too long as it is. In addition, Racecraft seems to be on the lacking side. If you haven't read the GTP OLR or the Good Racecraft Guide. READ THEM NOW.

Quoted from Post #1: The GTP Online Racing Rules & Guidelines and The Good Racecraft Guide are expected to be followed. It is expected that you have read the entirety of those and all of these rules before signing up for this series.

In summary: Hold the complaints that won't solve anything; saying something that is helpful is fine; questions are valued; go to the bathroom before qualifying; I'm sick of all the joking around during the driver's meeting, and I'll try to shorten the driver's meeting; read the GTP OLR and The Good Racecraft Guide.
 
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