Need For Speed (2015)

[Avetorian]

The reason for the cars looking all wet and slick is to make the game prettier.

Worked in Rivals, would argue that it works in this one too. Showing off the rain droplets as a graphical showcase does have it results, as the cars would look "realistic".

However, its unrealistic to have it all the time, so I wonder why NFS didn't know this and made the cars wet ONLY when it just rained or give the game a dynamic weather so the roads will be dry, wet, snow, what have you and have the car follow suit. (Speaking of which, does the game HAVE dynamic weather?)

As for pedestrians, could argue that previous NFS never had peds, also peds are a rare occurrence in racing games except in Midnight Club. Doesn't mean they should refrain from doing so. Make them good enough to see from a driving point of view.

And of course, make the peds with no damage model.

Yes, and prettier isn't always better, See drive club, It has a nice color fade that shows more realism. Cars aren't overly shiny and aren't always wet, that is photo realism right there. Of course though, I guess I'm among the few here who actually like immersion in a racing game, whether it's arcadey or not. I want to be inside the car, (Which I can't do in NFS since high stakes) And I also want manual transmission, which I can't have since Carbon.

I like immersion, It's why I bought Project cars, The crew, and will look into getting the wild run for it. It's why I play other games like Elite Dangerous, The flying of a space ship isn't realistic, but it's immersive. So immersion doesn't have to be realistic. I want to drive these cars, in harsh and hostile environments , police chases etc. Just like the old NFS days of the 90's they put you right at the steering wheel. Now they just want you to stare at the cars from a distance. Just like a lot of us do in real life, lol.

 

[GrindyBeak]

There was song that played in the game during a race and it reminded me of the Tokyo Xtreme Racer series. I like the game's soundtrack.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yes, and prettier isn't always better, See drive club, It has a nice color fade that shows more realism. Cars aren't overly shiny and aren't always wet, that is photo realism right there. Of course though, I guess I'm among the few here who actually like immersion in a racing game, whether it's arcadey or not. I want to be inside the car, (Which I can't do in NFS since high stakes) And I also want manual transmission, which I can't have since Carbon.

I like immersion, It's why I bought Project cars, The crew, and will look into getting the wild run for it. It's why I play other games like Elite Dangerous, The flying of a space ship isn't realistic, but it's immersive. So immersion doesn't have to be realistic. I want to drive these cars, in harsh and hostile environments , police chases etc. Just like the old NFS days of the 90's they put you right at the steering wheel. Now they just want you to stare at the cars from a distance. Just like a lot of us do in real life, lol.

This right here sums up perfectly what I expect from NFS, and maybe it just the nostalgia of the 90s games as I said earlier as well in the thread. But I can't take them seriously and I just accept the fact that it's gone in a completely different way looking back to then and like a cheap action movie that's the type of fun I can expect to get.

 

[ImaRobot]

They tell us to do the same thing, yet we have some of the lowest water bills in the nation. And we get far less rain.

Yeah, except that we have literally been in a drought for years because of lack of rain. It's gone so far that people get fined for using water on their grass. You are in a desert. We are not. The fact that a desert is having the same laws as.. well anything that's not in the desert, is just more proof to add to it. You living in a desert its obvious of your sitiuation, as I'm not, it becomes a totally different situation when they are resembling each other. That is bad.

I was just going by the national weather averages claim LA gets to show that user that no it doesn't rain as much as the game depicts. Also you've misquoted me, I gave certain times of the year LA gets rain in a good amounts, what I said was..."LA gets a good amount of rain through the Fall and Winter" since that is the rainy season.

I didn't misquote you, nor did I take anything out of context. I was just making a joke at the inaccurate facts you're using. I was not making any mention, or trying to get into any discussion of which you are trying to disprove someones opinion, again.

I'd still say that 30-40% of the year you might get rain is quite low compared to what the game depicts.

We've got almost 9 inches of rain this year, so far, which is a big jump up from the 6 inches we've got last year, and the 5 inches we got the year before, that is lower then the average of almost all of Arizona. 30-40% is far from generous.

Still, it was only a joke.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah, except that we have literally been in a drought for years because of lack of rain. It's gone so far that people get fined for using water on their grass. You are in a desert. We are not. The fact that a desert is having the same laws as.. well anything that's not in the desert, is just more proof to add to it. You living in a desert its obvious of your sitiuation, as I'm not in the desert, it becomes a totally different situation when they are resembling each other. That is bad.

We're in a drought too...and since this isn't the thread to discuss let's just move on. If you want to explain or discuss it more there are threads for it just tag me.

I didn't misquote you, nor did I take anything out of context. I was just making a joke at the inaccurate facts you're using. I was not making any mention, or trying to get into any discussion of which you are trying to disprove someones opinion, again.

So because I'm using averages from the national weather service I'm wrong? The only thing that is most likely inaccurate is the idealized percentage of rain. Also opinions stem from beliefs, which tend to be stemmed on false or misconceived facts. Just cause someone has an opinion doesn't mean it can't be argued which is funny cause you said earlier in this very thread how people should be allowed to argue, is it now an issue?

We've got almost 9 inches of rain this year, so far, which is a big jump up from the 6 inches we've got last year, and the 5 inches we got the year before, that is lower then the average of almost all of Arizona. 30-40% is far from generous.

Still, you're getting all to serious about this, it was only a joke.

I'm not serious about anything really, as I've told others you convey tone out of something. I couldn't tell what your post was so I treated it as a normal post in response to mine. I didn't treat it as you being hostile nor did I treat it as a joke, it's the internet so I have no idea if your joking or not unless it's obvious or we're in a thread that makes it obvious.

 

[ImaRobot]

We're in a drought too...and since this isn't the thread to discuss let's just move on. If you want to explain or discuss it more there are threads for it just tag me.

Ok.

So because I'm using averages from the national weather service I'm wrong? The only thing that is most likely inaccurate is the idealized percentage of rain. Also opinions stem from beliefs, which tend to be stemmed on false or misconceived facts. Just cause someone has an opinion doesn't mean it can't be argued which is funny cause you said earlier in this very thread how people should be allowed to argue, is it now an issue?

Ok, so I guess the first part of the post doesn't mean anything anymore.

No, you're wrong because you are using averages that have been put together from the past hundred years. 3 years of bad rainfall will do little to change the average rainfall when it's on a scale that big. You should look at the yearly scales if you want to gauge anything off of, or if you'd like to come around with correct information.

Regardless of your last sentence, that was not the point. Take it as you will, but its a wide spread notion that you try to make anyones opinion irrelevant because of the way you feel about something. Argue all you want, disagree all you want, thats fine, I don't mind. Even with what I just said, I'll gladly discuss with you. I never once said that you shouldn't post your opinion, it's just that you'll just hound a person about it and choose not to see their viewpoint or at least that's how you come across.

I'm not serious about anything really, as I've told others you convey tone out of something. I couldn't tell what your post was so I treated it as a normal post in response to mine. I didn't treat it as you being hostile nor did I treat it as a joke, it's the internet so I have no idea if your joking or not unless it's obvious or we're in a thread that makes it obvious.

So you really couldn't tell that was a joke? there was even a laughing emoticon at the end to make it more known that it was one, I feel if I would have left it out then it would have been taken to serious, but it seems that no matter what is potrayed you react the same way. You went as far as to get actual averages for rain and everything when I was just simply stating that it's incorrect, and having a bit of fun with it. So yes, you are literally taking a joke way to seriously, one that was even presented as such.

In the end, it was all a joke, I'm not sure how many more times I'd have to tell you. If you want to keep getting serious about it, that's fine.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Ok.


Ok, so I guess the first part of the post doesn't mean anything anymore.

No, you're wrong because you are using averages that have been put together from the past hundred years. 3 years of bad rainfall will do little to change the average rainfall when it's on a scale that big. You should look at the yearly scales if you want to gauge anything off of, or if you'd like to come around with correct information.

Regardless of your last sentence, that was not the point. Take it as you will, but its a wide spread notion that you try to make anyones opinion irrelevant because of the way you feel about something. Argue all you want, disagree all you want, thats fine, I don't mind. Even with what I just said, I'll gladly discuss with you. I never once said that you shouldn't post your opinion, it's just that you'll just hound a person about it and choose not to see their viewpoint or at least that's how you come across.

No I used data from the most recent years, there are annual almanacs. I was just using that as quick guide for that user. As I said and as you made note, the 30-40% is generous. It should be more like 10-15% a year. Thus the game poorly depicts weather, but accurately depicts night life, go figure.

So you really couldn't tell that was a joke? there was even a laughing emoticon at the end to make it more known that it was one, I feel if I would have left it out then it would have been taken to serious, but it seems that no matter what is potrayed you react the same way. You went as far as to get actual averages for rain and everything when I was just simply stating that it's incorrect, and having a bit of fun with it. So yes, you are literally taking a joke way to seriously, one that was even presented as such.

In the end, it was all a joke, I'm not sure how many more times I'd have to tell you. If you want to keep getting serious about it, that's fine.

No if I could I would have posted something like "good one" or "hahaha" and then liked said post cause in hindsight it is funny...sadly in hindsight.

As for the emoticon I've it doesn't mean much to me sadly since people use them in spite on here rather than in context sorry though for not recognizing it as for what it was intended. I do apologize. I will say you only told me just in your last post it was a joke so no reason to get upset, I'm just being forward and honest in how I saw it.

 

[yabiggoose]

Can you two please take this crap to PM.

 

[lxmmy]

 

[ImaRobot]

No I used data from the most recent years, there are annual almanacs. I was just using that as quick guide for that user. As I said and as you made note, the 30-40% is generous. It should be more like 10-15% a year. Thus the game poorly depicts weather, but accurately depicts night life, go figure.

Well then its weird how you came to use the numbers that you did, and then bringing your state into the equation as if you didn't even bother to look at any information because right now, the rain we are getting is less then that of almost all of your state. You are using it to try to disprove someones opinion and support your own, and the information you are using is wrong. That's all I'm saying.

As for the emoticon I've it doesn't mean much to me sadly since people use them in spite on here rather than in context sorry though for not recognizing it as for what it was intended. I do apologize. I will say you only told me just in your last post it was a joke so no reason to get upset, I'm just being forward and honest in how I saw it.

After your very first reply to you, I ended my next post in

Still, it was only a joke.

and you replied again with a bunch of serious mumbo jumbo, and then in my very next reply I also posted this

In the end, it was all a joke, I'm not sure how many more times I'd have to tell you. If you want to keep getting serious about it, that's fine.

I've tried making it clear from the first post. It didn't happen. I replied to all your points in the second post, and then finished it with assuring you that it was all out of fun, since I saw that you didn't catch that. You replied again with more points against my joke, so I then replied to your concerns and finished the post, again, with a reassurance that it was all a joke. I mean, I'm not sure how many more times I'd have to say it, before you'd actually accept that it was all in fun.

 

[JR98]

How? I can't understand how that makes it look better. A car being wet in my garage, a car being wet even when it's not raining. I mean... you don't think that just seems off? from a visual stand point that just makes no sense. It's not THAT big of a deal but it's going to annoy me to no end. I have to force myself to ignore it. I wish EA would just understand that wet cars aren't the best thing to make a car look good.



NFS3 intro, dry and wet cars, dry cars still looking fantastic, obviously its a movie used with real cars instead of CG models, but point being. Cars look just as good in the dry as they do in the wet. If you really believe that cars look better in the wet, then only when it rains should they be wet, it would make that moment actually mean something. Instead of it always being the case.

Wet cars help to show off the graphics of the game as I imagine it is pretty hard to get realistic looking raindrops on the cars, which they have done spectacularly on NFS 2015.

 

[pokemonfan58]

There really, really needs to be more customization in the full game. But, i doubt there will be, because why would a beta have after submitting a low review score an option to why you didn't like it that was

"The customization is not what I expected"

Why would it ask that if that wasn't the whole customization? That's what's making me think the Beta's customization is everything.

I'm really sure there will be more customization and new cars. Didn't the beta not feature the entire storyline? Also the rep level limit was 25 so that will pretty much indicate that the full game will have alot more to offer. *Hopefully*

 

[JR98]

I'm really sure there will be more customization and new cars. Didn't the beta not feature the entire storyline? Also the rep level limit was 25 so that will pretty much indicate that the full game will have alot more to offer. *Hopefully*

The Beta featured up until you get to the diner after doing a few outlaw stuff, and according to the main menu, was about 25% through the story. Took me about 3 hours to get there. If story missions are completely unaltered compared to that beta build then it'll take about 12 gaming hours to complete the main story

 

[nocturnalgrey]

Played about an hour of the Beta and I am looking forward to the retail version of the game. Happy with everything game related and only concern I have is the server stability at launch.

 

[Suzumiya]

Los Angeles gets a good amount of rain? That's a good one

That's probably why they tell us to conserve water and not water our lawns anymore.... oh wait.

Gotta save it for the Almond farmers.

 

[Moglet]

I love how this thread has descended into an argument about the weather in a fictional city.

Like I said, don't question the water. It will only drive you crazy.

 

[Zonda5]

Who's going to open the NFS weather thread?

 

[pokemonfan58]

Who's going to open the NFS weather thread?

@banter

 

[TS050]

@banter

Was this a joke? I didn't laugh.

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So, to the people who've played the Beta, do you think that your experience was good enough for someone to take a plunge and preorder the game? Or, do you think it needs more work and they should wait?

 

[lxmmy]

Was this a joke? I didn't laugh.

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So, to the people who've played the Beta, do you think that your experience was good enough for someone to take a plunge and preorder the game? Or, do you think it needs more work and they should wait?

I will probably buy it a couple days after it is released to let the people who pre-ordered feel the most effect if anything goes wrong.

 

[pokemonfan58]

I will probably buy it a couple days after it is released to let the people who pre-ordered feel the most effect if anything goes wrong.

Don't you not pay full price until the game comes out if you pre-ordered it from gamestop?

 

[lxmmy]

Don't you not pay full price until the game comes out if you pre-ordered it from gamestop?

GAME are selling it for pre-order for £45 and give it a couple of days until the hype dies down and the price will go down to £40. Also I like to see the reviews before I buy a game.

 

[Sage Ages]

Well it is a fictional universe where R34s and Civic Type-Rs are apparently legal so I can excuse the "always raining in California."

They're not illegal. It's just incredibly expensive and difficult to get them "the proper way" so people wait until the 25 year exemption.

 

[PiotrGT]

So, after playing a beta. It will be a decent game, just lacking some things which like every other racer has (no manual gearbox). The livery editor (or wraps) is great feature. Cars are lacking parts to customize them but i'm sure there will be more in full game. It has great atmosphere. The rain, looks great but why does it have to ALWAYS rain? I hope it's not like this in full version.

 

[Moglet]

Was this a joke? I didn't laugh.

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So, to the people who've played the Beta, do you think that your experience was good enough for someone to take a plunge and preorder the game? Or, do you think it needs more work and they should wait?

I'm going to be waiting to see if there are more mods for more of the cars in the full version before taking the plunge. I'm also curious to see if they fix the decal editor.

 

[BeAsTPkRIPPER]

Was this a joke? I didn't laugh.

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So, to the people who've played the Beta, do you think that your experience was good enough for someone to take a plunge and preorder the game? Or, do you think it needs more work and they should wait?

I pre-ordered the Deluxe edition game the first 5 minutes I played the Beta. This is the only NFS I actually enjoy playing. To me it is one of the most realistic games out there Graphics wise.

Other than there Server Problems, No Queue Menu, No Exit Menu from your current lobby to back into the main menu without Close the application

 

[AudiMan2011]

Beta was pretty good. Graphics are stunning and the whole business of blending the in-game cars to real-life cutscenes works pretty well. A drift-centric handling setup can be awkward at first but you soon get used to it.

AI does need work in races and drift contests. Customisation is quite in-depth and I hope more cars get more parts added. Wrap editor feels a bit like a Forza-lite livery editor in a way.

There should also be some cops roaming the city from time to time as they're difficult to come by when needing to missions for Outlaw.

Overall, 7.5/10

 

[JR98]

Was this a joke? I didn't laugh.

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So, to the people who've played the Beta, do you think that your experience was good enough for someone to take a plunge and preorder the game? Or, do you think it needs more work and they should wait?

I'd say buy it after release. I wouldn't pre order as the bonuses seem worthless as you could probably have an E46 M3 in a coupe of hours anyway.

 

[BeAsTPkRIPPER]

I mean going to the AI thing. When I do drifting events they seem to like to punt people across the road every time you get near them

 

[JR98]

Only AI issue i've had is that in one of the drift events they take a weird line and I end up lapping them a few times.