Need For Speed (2015)

[yabiggoose]

Thoroughly enjoyable beta.

 

[McLaren]

Where do I say they haven't or hinted?

You said it was something beta users could address. Moglet & Kokos are beta users who addressed it.

Let me just cut to the chase so this doesn't get dragged out forever by either of us, in short what I was saying is (after trying to re-clarify my point) that yes more than one person has said it rains quite a bit. However, the general reading of the entire thread since beta testing doesn't seem to indicate that at all, because it either isn't as big of an issue as few players are making it out to be or others don't care as much due to other issues. And I show this by giving the examples still complained about.

You specifically told Will his views were his own & no one else here has complained about the wet roads. I showed you 4 other people who shared his view. When I asked if you'd like to change that claim, you said, "no, not really" because others hadn't made any mention of it. Whether or not others aren't complaining is irrelevant. You originally stated no one else here besides Will had that specific complaint when there were in fact, others before him. That's the end game of it. Whether it's a big issue is not part of the argument.

Because he directly asked me if it rains that much in LA and if its the 75% (his number) that the game puts out, I said no and gave him a more real view. Thus showing it is not accurate to the real LA, since the game itself tries to replicate rear world LA everywhere else but climate. Thus if you read my posts correctly instead of trying to read into it, you'll see all I'm simply saying is I don't see the wet roads being issued as much by the collective as that one user nor do I see the desolate night life that way either and posted why they seemed to go this route.

He didn't ask you that at all. They were rhetorical questions based on what he'd seen in the game. I don't know why the underlined part below just happens to be missing from your quote.

While I understand your point and the fact that LA may not be bustling with night life IRL, but does LA not have any pedestrians? Are the roads constantly wet as well? Is it raining 75% of the time? So that IRL argument doesn't really hold up.

Since from the get go I never implied to know what GG's plan was but what they may have taken influence from or who, since the wetness is being complained about a bit more so recently (see @TorqueHappenS08 post), that is in part why I made the Seattle weather comment. You've seemed to ignore everything else I'm saying though so confused on that.

Everything else is your "re-clarifying" that no one in the thread but Will has complained about 1 subject meaning that most people are not complaining about the same subject in general, so it's not a big issue. Your argument against Will's posts is starting to change a bit now that you've been shown similar opinions to his own on that specific complaint.

With that, this has become a carousel & I'm getting off it.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

You said it was something beta users could address. Moglet & Kokos are beta users who addressed it.

I missed where they tweeted NFS asking about this then, since the part you just quoted is me saying perhaps they can address this with the devs when it comes time to take the survey, I didn't think I'd have to spell it out in more words than that but I'm seeing now I do.

You specifically told Will his views were his own & no one else here has complained about the wet roads. I showed you 4 other people who shared his view. When I asked if you'd like to change that claim, you said, "no, not really" because others hadn't made any mention of it. Whether or not others aren't complaining is irrelevant. You originally stated no one else here besides Will had that specific complaint when there were in fact, others before him. That's the end game of it. Whether it's a big issue is not part of the argument.

Wrong, in regards to what you just paraphrased I didn't say that and once again not sure why you wish to read into this as much as you are. What I said was in line with his overall view of the game after what I initially posted to help answer his qualms as suggestion and nothing else. So when I said his own view and no one else, I'm talking about the hype he set himself up with, in the aspect its a game so due to it being based on LA it doesn't have to be LA idea he had. In reality even if it is a game and they could make LA look like LA and run like Dubai...why should they other than him or someone else wanting that. Thus it is his own personal view on how he expected or thinks the set up should be treated. Once again refrain from manipulating my posts please.

He didn't ask you that at all. They were rhetorical questions based on what he'd seen in the game. I don't know why the underlined part below just happens to be missing from your quote.

Simple, look at his post and you'll see he edited it, don't make it to be some sinister thing (which you seem to be doing).

Everything else is your "re-clarifying" that no one in the thread but Will has complained about 1 subject meaning that most people are not complaining about the same subject in general, so it's not a big issue. Your argument against Will's posts is starting to change a bit now that you've been shown similar opinions to his own on that specific complaint.

With that, this has become a carousel & I'm getting off it.

When you have mainly one person come forward complaining about the overall setting when most if any haven't at that point, then it is questionable. Especially when you couple it with the fact the Beta had been going already and then after the beta is over people are giving it an even bigger injection of hype despite such settings...of course it's going to be questions.

My argument changed cause people after the beta closed gave it reason to, simple. One person isn't enough to have me question something, but it is enough to question the absence of evidence from the many others playing the same game. Also to make it clear there was no initial argument, just me giving what may have been the possible reason they went this route, it only became an argument when I was given suggestion to a user that didn't want to accept it and seemed quite irritated by in large of it all (though this could just be my personal take on it).

 

[McLaren]

I missed where they tweeted NFS asking about this then, since the part you just quoted is me saying perhaps they can address this with the devs when it comes time to take the survey, I didn't think I'd have to spell it out in more words than that but I'm seeing now I do.

If it is more highly pointed out then sure I'll probably be a bit worried why GG thinks this is a good call. On the other end I do feel that perhaps this may be something that the Beta users can address and as such GG can go back and tone down before release, without delaying the game. Or more so explain why LA is suddenly Seattle.

What tweets? What surveys? You just said it's something beta users can address. 2 members have addressed it after you even told another member he was the only person here complaining about it to begin with.

Don't cop out with that nonsense because you're unable to formulate what you want to say until it's too late.

Wrong, in regards to what you just paraphrased I didn't say that and once again not sure why you wish to read into this as much as you are. What I said was in line with his overall view of the game after what I initially posted to help answer his qualms as suggestion and nothing else. So when I said his own view and no one else, I'm talking about the hype he set himself up with, in the aspect its a game so due to it being based on LA it doesn't have to be LA idea he had. In reality even if it is a game and they could make LA look like LA and run like Dubai...why should they other than him or someone else wanting that. Thus it is his own personal view on how he expected or thinks the set up should be treated. Once again refrain from manipulating my posts please.

LMSCorvetteGT2 said
Once again that's your take on it and no one else here has complained that the roads are wet all the time. Also they may be interpreting the weather of LA in a different manner while keep the night life the same as if it were real.
KokosEnergy said
- The streets are ALWAYS wet as mentioned
Moglet said
- It is always wet. Never question why, it just is.
NeoIX said
Guys lets talk about the constant wet/rainy effect, are you guys tired of seeing the cars wet even in the garage.
Avetorian said
The hollywood over the top effects, the cars and roads always being wet, I mean really? Come on guys.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

As for the seriousness of all this, I just don't give much care or weight into an NFS game any more than I would an FF movie for example. With that said I still enjoy it in a more numb to reality way, which is why it's quite easy to defend. When I purchase an NFS game I know that I'm not getting the same immersion, quality or complete dynamic overview I should expect from a FM or GT game. Which is why when people use those as their base level for analysis, I find it strange and at times silly considering what we can extrapolate from the NFS title over the years at the best and worse seen. Now I do have more excitement on this game due to it being a new developer (Ghost Games), but not so much so that I don't forget who is pulling the strings, EA. Thus I'm still numb to it and not expecting GT/FM/Pcars/AC quality but a more open minded new start on NFS but to a degree.

Also I have no overly condescending tone, yet again people will read what they wish (ironic considering @McLaren tends to be in the same situations and yet liked your post) because of the fact someone is actually challenging their "better wisdom" on a topic.

@ImaRobot put it best earlier on this thread, it seems silly that certain people wish to place their special snowflake on a topic (this is condescending) and then get worked up and use an emotional out and say what you have. More or less you do you and I'll do my thing and no one should comment or debate on the subject. I'm not treating it all that serious it's a forum and I as anyone else has a right to disagree or agree openly with other users participating on said forum, so long as it's not derogatory or a breach of the AUP in this case. If you have issue with me commenting on your post, other posts or in general, the forums offer a nice feature that allows you to ignore other users.

The thing here is, mate, you always seem to be defending EA's design choices whenever someone criticizes an aspect of the game. Whether it's garage slots or always wet roads (which are valid complaints), you always counter by saying there's nothing wrong with those decisions.

You may be "numb" and don't care as much about NFS, but there are other people here that are as passionate about the franchise as they are about GT/FM/AC/PCARS/whatever. And we would like this game to be the best it can be, especially since this will probably be the last NFS if it ends up bombing again. Which is quite likely looking at some of the issues with the beta (and stop saying it's a beta, it will be fixed in the final game - just look at PCARS). If you really don't care how this game is going to turn out, then why bother defending it at all? There are some of us who do, and we shouldn't be restricted in offering constructive feedback.

I'm not trying to cram my viewpoints on you, nor I'm saying your views are wrong. But you give the impression that all negative criticisms are invalid because EA isn't going to do 🤬 about it. If that's the case we might as well close the whole GT6 section because we know PD cares even less about their fanbase.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The thing here is, mate, you always seem to be defending EA's design choices whenever someone criticizes an aspect of the game. Whether it's garage slots or always wet roads (which are valid complaints), you always counter by saying there's nothing wrong with those decisions.

It's GG's design choice, I've never defended EA and I even make note of that in an earlier post as to why I still wont take NFS serious because it's bank rolled by EA. I didn't defend wet roads, I just felt user was probably exaggerating since not too many were making any issue, so I saw it as a non-issue and really I didn't even address it the first time he posted. My original post was in response to how he felt the city should have more life.

Garage slots is the only thing I have contested and probably will keep doing so cause I don't see an issue.

You may be "numb" and don't care as much about NFS, but there are other people here that are as passionate about the franchise as they are about GT/FM/AC/PCARS/whatever. And we would like this game to be the best it can be, especially since this will probably be the last NFS if it ends up bombing again. Which is quite likely looking at some of the issues with the beta (and stop saying it's a beta, it will be fixed in the final game - just look at PCARS). If you really don't care how this game is going to turn out, then why bother defending it at all? There are some of us who do, and we shouldn't be restricted in offering constructive feedback.

I'm not trying to cram my viewpoints on you, nor I'm saying your views are wrong. But you give the impression that all negative criticisms are invalid because EA isn't going to do 🤬 about it. If that's the case we might as well close the whole GT6 section because we know PD cares even less about their fanbase.

NFS hasn't changed much in it's life time and if you ask the simcade purist it's probably worse off then it's original concepts from the 90s when it was trying to be a serious game. Sadly what people would like and what they expect are two very different things especially in regards to this series. Also don't compare PCars to NFS please, first off it's a game developed strictly by a community on community funds with some behind the scene backers vs an EA funded game...massive difference. One was in the Beta stage for an eon compared to the Beta stage this game just had, and I didn't say it would be fixed for the final game...unless that was a general comment?

Either you read the posts I put up or you don't, the question you pose is quite easy to answer with out me having to do so again and again.

Negative criticism isn't invalid if so I wouldn't do it for other games, what I'm saying is you hold the same litmus test for a group that has every single time, made sure to fail it and not care. And yet people still come running back when they change studios expecting different...when it's still an EA game and timeline. Can they produce a good game? Sure. Is it going to be something revolutionary in the genre? Most likely not or ever if EA is the backer.

What tweets? What surveys? You just said it's something beta users can address. 2 members have addressed it after you even told another member he was the only person here complaining about it to begin with.

No I said:

If it is more highly pointed out then sure I'll probably be a bit worried why GG thinks this is a good call. On the other end I do feel that perhaps this may be something that the Beta users can address and as such GG can go back and tone down before release, without delaying the game. Or more so explain why LA is suddenly Seattle.

Let me break it down for you since you're having trouble. In other words I'm saying that perhaps as in maybe as in possibly but never definitely, they can bring it up with GG (since other users seem to be able to tweet and get responses) and see why this is the case and perhaps they may reevaluate it. Also after the beta as posted on here a survey about the beta is to be handed out, I'm guessing like most surveys there is a comment portion to give more insight. If you're not even going to try and make an attempt at what I've posted, and just go right for the "nope I call BS" then don't bother.

Don't cop out with that nonsense because you're unable to formulate what you want to say until it's too late.

Cop out with what? The fact that you can't get a hold of what my initial meaning and thus I'm trying to pin point it for you so we can go forward rather than this "carousel ride"

LMSCorvetteGT2 said
Once again that's your take on it and no one else here has complained that the roads are wet all the time. Also they may be interpreting the weather of LA in a different manner while keep the night life the same as if it were real.[
KokosEnergy said
- The streets are ALWAYS wet as mentioned
Moglet said
- It is always wet. Never question why, it just is.
NeoIX said
Guys lets talk about the constant wet/rainy effect, are you guys tired of seeing the cars wet even in the garage.
Avetorian said
The hollywood over the top effects, the cars and roads always being wet, I mean really? Come on guys.

Yes you posted this, I've explained it and even agreed that others are seeming bothered by it, but not good enough for you. You having your fingers in your ears saying "nope, no and no way" isn't going to change anything, so why re post it? Also that wasn't my initial comment in the first place to him.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

double post, sorry.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

NFS hasn't changed much in it's life time and if you ask the simcade purist it's probably worse off then it's original concepts from the 90s when it was trying to be a serious game. Sadly what people would like and what they expect are two very different things especially in regards to this series. Also don't compare PCars to NFS please, first off it's a game developed strictly by a community on community funds with some behind the scene backers vs an EA funded game...massive difference. One was in the Beta stage for an eon compared to the Beta stage this game just had, and I didn't say it would be fixed for the final game...unless that was a general comment?

The PCARS part was just a general comment. People (not necessarily you) keep saying when a beta is bad it will be fixed in a final game. Not when it's this close to release.

Either you read the posts I put up or you don't, the question you pose is quite easy to answer with out me having to do so again and again.

Negative criticism isn't invalid if so I wouldn't do it for other games, what I'm saying is you hold the same litmus test for a group that has every single time, made sure to fail it and not care. And yet people still come running back when they change studios expecting different...when it's still an EA game and timeline. Can they produce a good game? Sure. Is it going to be something revolutionary in the genre? Most likely not or ever if EA is the backer.

Most likely EA will not care, but we being the passionate fans that we are can still make comments in the hope that one day they will.

As you said the pattern here is repeating itself:

Someone says feature X is not that good.

You say feature X is good enough. EA will most likely not care either way.

The problem is not whether EA will or will not care. We should be able to discuss a feature's good/bad points and get our voice out there. But we can't do that if every reply you counter with "stop complaining, EA will not care".

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The PCARS part was just a general comment. People (not necessarily you) keep saying when a beta is bad it will be fixed in a final game. Not when it's this close to release.

Yeah I agree.

Most likely EA will not care, but we being the passionate fans that we are can still make comments in the hope that one day they will.

Perfectly fine, no one is saying otherwise to this. The problem seems to be you or anyone else not liking the opposite being directed at you on a forum where debate and inverse opinion is meant to be spoken freely and calmly.

As you said the pattern here is repeating itself:

Someone says feature X is not that good.

You say feature X is good enough. EA will most likely not care either way.

The problem is not whether EA will or will not care. We should be able to discuss a feature's good/bad points and get our voice out there. But we can't do that if every reply you counter with "stop complaining, EA will not care".

I've only said five car limit is fine, what else did I defend? I never said stop complaining, all I said or questioned is how exactly it's a bad thing. The fact is some people like it some people don't, thus even if EA wanted to change something...why would they if they don't have a full consensus or at least a majority (as far as this forum goes if we're to use it as the sample pop.) Part of your post seems to say we should be free to talk about it either way but then you take a step back as if to say but we shouldn't argue or be faced with that. Why exactly is this an issue?

Also lastly, I have no overwhelming power that allows me to stop EA from changing anything so why me going against you are anyone else plays a factor, is not so. Especially when there are larger communities out there probably having the same debates that I have no role in.

 

[Ellis]

Wow, a lot of mud slinging in this thread over very petty things. Calm down guys!

I enjoyed my brief time with the beta. Connected fine, it was fun and i felt like old need for speed (underground 2 in particular) which is a great thing!

Not sure on the characters though. The women are a bit too sexualised for it to seem legitimate and it seems like they are because they are, and spike is a tool, and not the likable sort.

 

[pokemonfan58]

Spent the whole weekend on the Beta and boy it was so much fun. The customization was good and the game did offer some cool aftermarket parts.

I can't wait for the full release though. I hope they do add more cars and more stuff to the customization in this game.

 

[McLaren]

Yes you posted this, I've explained it and even agreed that others are seeming bothered by it, but not good enough for you. You having your fingers in your ears saying "nope, no and no way" isn't going to change anything, so why re post it? Also that wasn't my initial comment in the first place to him.

Read the underline. You made a claim, you got proven wrong, & now you've swapped your story against Will's view being only his & his alone into something irrelevant. This isn't me calling, "Nope BS" on the issue, it's you typing out whatever you can to not look like an overly attached girlfriend to this game that even other people are seeing you for. You're the most vocal against anyone in this thread with criticism when you don't seem to have even played the beta itself. So, I can consider this the part where your posts no longer hold any valuable reading material in this thread as long as you act like everything in this game is fine & nobody should be trying to step on Ghost's imagination/vision or whatever rubbish you were spewing.

 

[gtuned]

There really, really needs to be more customization in the full game. But, i doubt there will be, because why would a beta have after submitting a low review score an option to why you didn't like it that was

"The customization is not what I expected"

Why would it ask that if that wasn't the whole customization? That's what's making me think the Beta's customization is everything.

 

[GTPorsche]

Wow, a lot of mud slinging in this thread over very petty things. Calm down guys!

I enjoyed my brief time with the beta. Connected fine, it was fun and i felt like old need for speed (underground 2 in particular) which is a great thing!

Not sure on the characters though. The women are a bit too sexualised for it to seem legitimate and it seems like they are because they are, and spike is a tool, and not the likable sort.

That's how I felt about the characters as well.

There really, really needs to be more customization in the full game. But, i doubt there will be, because why would a beta have after submitting a low review score an option to why you didn't like it that was

"The customization is not what I expected"

Why would it ask that if that wasn't the whole customization? That's what's making me think the Beta's customization is everything.

Because they want any and all opinions on it.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

I thought the visuals were pretty good, the customization was impressive, the story seemed to be interesting but it did feel like a rehash of previous titles' story lines.

I didn't like the handling characteristics. They felt disconnected somehow and the car either didn't turn when I wanted it to or vice versa. I found drifting rather difficult to do and couldn't ever keep up with the AI. Also as others feel, the 5 cars only is a huge let down and whilst I approve of some of the cars in the game I do feel it could do with more variety. I know it was a beta version and I did like what I experienced, however I doubt I'll get it when it first comes out.

 

[Avetorian]

I can't understand why anyone wouldn't complain or at least tell EA to stop with the stupid always rain effects, It's one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb to me. That takes away from realism and any immersion from the game. I feel like I'm being treated a like a child when EA comes out with the "Never before seen realism" then have the cars ALWAYS wet, I hated it in rivals and I hate it now. The cars are wet when it rains and it looks nice, cool, cars STILL LOOK GOOD WHILE THEY ARE DRY TOO! *sigh*

I'll admit from a general standpoint the graphics are really good, and cars always being wet will not stop me from playing the game. I'm pretty sure myself and the others who've griped on this are not that much of a minority as others might think. At the very least I can say from what I've seen, they toned back the bloom a bit. Ghost Games still haven't fully grasped the spirit of NFS in my opinion.

 

[JR98]

I don't get the big deal with wet cars. Makes it look better imo

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Read the underline. You made a claim, you got proven wrong, & now you've swapped your story against Will's view being only his & his alone into something irrelevant. This isn't me calling, "Nope BS" on the issue, it's you typing out whatever you can to not look like an overly attached girlfriend to this game that even other people are seeing you for. You're the most vocal against anyone in this thread with criticism when you don't seem to have even played the beta itself. So, I can consider this the part where your posts no longer hold any valuable reading material in this thread as long as you act like everything in this game is fine & nobody should be trying to step on Ghost's imagination/vision or whatever rubbish you were spewing.

No, that's what I meant all along, I agree after more people are starting to come forward after the close beta that maybe it is rainy in the environment all too often. As I said I didn't see it as an issue because he was the only person to come forth in a detailed manner on the subject, outside of that I already explained what I meant from the get go and used to little words to explain it for a person like you. You rather take it as black and white and thus it can only mean that, rather than ask the person posting as I would.

I'm not overly attached, to anything cause I haven't even played the game. Rather people are making a noise before the beta about situation X or Y as if it will have great adverse effects. When we don't know until the finished product comes out, I'm also defending those who changed their view on issues that they thought would be problematic but end up not being so bad. You clearly have your own overt issues with the game as you've clearly put out before you and I got into this squabble, so you painting me as the biased one to divert from the topic is ironic. Once again I never said everything was fine, the only thing I've said that was perfectly fine by me is the five car limit, I don't nor shouldn't need to bring up AUP with you but you keep wanting to twist my words.

 

[Avetorian]

I don't get the big deal with wet cars. Makes it look better imo

How? I can't understand how that makes it look better. A car being wet in my garage, a car being wet even when it's not raining. I mean... you don't think that just seems off? from a visual stand point that just makes no sense. It's not THAT big of a deal but it's going to annoy me to no end. I have to force myself to ignore it. I wish EA would just understand that wet cars aren't the best thing to make a car look good.



NFS3 intro, dry and wet cars, dry cars still looking fantastic, obviously its a movie used with real cars instead of CG models, but point being. Cars look just as good in the dry as they do in the wet. If you really believe that cars look better in the wet, then only when it rains should they be wet, it would make that moment actually mean something. Instead of it always being the case.

 

[Zonda5]

Wow, a lot of mud slinging in this thread over very petty things. Calm down guys!

I enjoyed my brief time with the beta. Connected fine, it was fun and i felt like old need for speed (underground 2 in particular) which is a great thing!

Not sure on the characters though. The women are a bit too sexualised for it to seem legitimate and it seems like they are because they are, and spike is a tool, and not the likable sort.

Personally I don't think they're sexualised in a bad way. They wear clothes that women wear and they all have their own personalities so I don't see the problem there.

As for Spike, he gets his fair shares of punches. Also don't see this as too much of a problem.

 

[Gerarghini]

How? I can't understand how that makes it look better. A car being wet in my garage, a car being wet even when it's not raining. I mean... you don't think that just seems off? from a visual stand point that just makes no sense. It's not THAT big of a deal but it's going to annoy me to no end. I have to force myself to ignore it. I wish EA would just understand that wet cars aren't the best thing to make a car look good.



NFS3 intro, dry and wet cars, dry cars still looking fantastic, obviously its a movie used with real cars instead of CG models, but point being. Cars look just as good in the dry as they do in the wet. If you really believe that cars look better in the wet, then only when it rains should they be wet, it would make that moment actually mean something. Instead of it always being the case.

I have to agree with @JASON_ROCKS1998, I think the rain and the wet cars look superb with the incredible lighting. Makes the stickers stand out, and I love that detail.

 

[ImaRobot]

As for the rain, LA gets a good amount of rain during the Fall but more so during the Winter time up until about April. So with that said half the year might have rain on and off. So I really can't tell you how much it rains their...maybe 30 to 40% of the year. Though I haven't seen anyone else make much noise or claim that the game has tons of rain.

Los Angeles gets a good amount of rain? That's a good one

That's probably why they tell us to conserve water and not water our lawns anymore.... oh wait.

 

[iMikeTheKing]

How? I can't understand how that makes it look better. A car being wet in my garage, a car being wet even when it's not raining. I mean... you don't think that just seems off? from a visual stand point that just makes no sense. It's not THAT big of a deal but it's going to annoy me to no end. I have to force myself to ignore it. I wish EA would just understand that wet cars aren't the best thing to make a car look good.



NFS3 intro, dry and wet cars, dry cars still looking fantastic, obviously its a movie used with real cars instead of CG models, but point being. Cars look just as good in the dry as they do in the wet. If you really believe that cars look better in the wet, then only when it rains should they be wet, it would make that moment actually mean something. Instead of it always being the case.

What's throwing me off is how it is always raining in California.

EDIT: Ninja'd

 

[Gerarghini]

Well it is a fictional universe where R34s and Civic Type-Rs are apparently legal so I can excuse the "always raining in California."

 

[wicken]

Moving on from this discussion...What does everyone think about the always online requirement after having played the beta? IMO, I think it's ********. There are no benefits whatsoever, you have to track someone in the open world to challenge them to a race, drift event, etc; and that was already in NFS Rivals.

 

[ImaRobot]

Well it is a fictional universe where R34s and Civic Type-Rs are apparently legal so I can excuse the "always raining in California."

It's not to hard to believe since the whole game is based around illegal activities. Wouldn't be to far fetched to assume.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Los Angeles gets a good amount of rain? That's a good one

That's probably why they tell us to conserve water and not water our lawns anymore.... oh wait.

They tell us to do the same thing, yet we have some of the lowest water bills in the nation. And we get far less rain.

I was just going by the national weather averages claim LA gets to show that user that no it doesn't rain as much as the game depicts. Also you've misquoted me, I gave certain times of the year LA gets rain in a good amounts, what I said was..."LA gets a good amount of rain through the Fall and Winter" since that is the rainy season.

I'd still say that 30-40% of the year you might get rain is quite low compared to what the game depicts.

Moving on from this discussion...What does everyone think about the always online requirement after having played the beta? IMO, I think it's ********. There are no benefits whatsoever, you have to track someone in the open world to challenge them to a race, drift event, etc; and that was already in NFS Rivals.

Most people on here have expressed that the servers seem good with little problems. However, others say the same thing as you that there is no point to it so why have it.

 

[Avetorian]

Most people on here have expressed that the servers seem good with little problems. However, others say the same thing as you that there is no point to it so why have it.

Well to be fair, you're not stress testing the servers with those numbers that got in the beta, we'll see how that goes on release.

Moving on from this discussion...What does everyone think about the always online requirement after having played the beta? IMO, I think it's ********. There are no benefits whatsoever, you have to track someone in the open world to challenge them to a race, drift event, etc; and that was already in NFS Rivals.

I don't like it, I fear that too many people are pushing the always online requirement for single player games, (Aka solo mode) Just because it has an online multiplayer, ever since blizzard got away with it, with diablo 3. Even other companies before then.

 

[Maxrevv]

The reason for the cars looking all wet and slick is to make the game prettier.

Worked in Rivals, would argue that it works in this one too. Showing off the rain droplets as a graphical showcase does have it results, as the cars would look "realistic".

However, its unrealistic to have it all the time, so I wonder why NFS didn't know this and made the cars wet ONLY when it just rained or give the game a dynamic weather so the roads will be dry, wet, snow, what have you and have the car follow suit. (Speaking of which, does the game HAVE dynamic weather?)

As for pedestrians, could argue that previous NFS never had peds, also peds are a rare occurrence in racing games except in Midnight Club. Doesn't mean they should refrain from doing so. Make them good enough to see from a driving point of view.

And of course, make the peds with no damage model.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Well to be fair, you're not stress testing the servers with those numbers that got in the beta, we'll see how that goes on release.

True, I'm just saying what others have. And for the amount of hours some put in it with no problems, it's a good start. I'm sure there will be plenty that complain about it and be upset though.

The reason for the cars looking all wet and slick is to make the game prettier.

Worked in Rivals, would argue that it works in this one too. Showing off the rain droplets as a graphical showcase does have it results, as the cars would look "realistic".

However, its unrealistic to have it all the time, so I wonder why NFS didn't know this and made the cars wet ONLY when it just rained or give the game a dynamic weather so the roads will be dry, wet, snow, what have you and have the car follow suit. (Speaking of which, does the game HAVE dynamic weather?)

As for pedestrians, could argue that previous NFS never had peds, also peds are a rare occurrence in racing games except in Midnight Club. Doesn't mean they should refrain from doing so. Make them good enough to see from a driving point of view.

And of course, make the peds with no damage model.

They may have also done this to avoid people complaining about too many, and felt that people would enjoy more open city roads to race in without worry. Instead now they have the issue of people not liking the wet weather constant.