*** New Corvette Z06 ***

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TwinTurboJay
seriously, there is no way you can compare corvette to a Tvr...reliability track record alone and everyday driveability take the corvette out of reach of the TVR. Completey different catagories.
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I know and know of a lot of british TVR owners who use them as their everyday car, for some they are their only car. its true that reliability was never their strong point - this has changed in the past couple of years. Apart from that and the fact that in the UK a vette is expensive and has the steering wheel on the wrong side. Both the Vette and TVR's are front engined, rear-driven, plastic bodied, overly powerful, fantastic sounding, reasonable handling 2 seater sports cars - Why do you think they are in completely different catagories?
 
new Z06 has carbon fiber floor boards, and bumpers a few other choice pieces to save weight, not all plastic ; ).

As for different catagories..I guess you could say you probably wont ever have someone cross shopping with those two vehicals!
 
TwinTurboJay
new Z06 has carbon fiber floor boards, and bumpers a few other choice pieces to save weight, not all plastic ; ).

As for different catagories..I guess you could say you probably wont ever have someone cross shopping with those two vehicals!
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When i said 'plastic' i ment it as a generic term. Although i could have used it to describe the Vette's dash....... ;)

I really do think that the Vette's biggest rival in the UK will be TVR's, the Vette's LHD only and price will count it out of the running as a Porsche, new Jag XK or Aston V8 rival. In the UK at least.
 
TwinTurboJay
new Z06 has carbon fiber floor boards, and bumpers a few other choice pieces to save weight, not all plastic ; ).

As for different catagories..I guess you could say you probably wont ever have someone cross shopping with those two vehicals!
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Well the Carbon fibre is just as 'plastic' as fibreglass, carbon fibre paneling (not the woven carbon itself) is often refered to as CFRP (or CRP) for Carbon fibre reinforced plastic. Fibreglass and Carbonfibre are quite similar besides the materials used.

As for TVR and Corvette Z06 market, well in Australia the Corvette is very expensive but so is the TVR and they both are front engined, rear drive, two seater, high HP performance/sports cars. Seems like a very similar market to me here.
 
The Vettes biggest rival in the UK WILL be TVR, TVR's have nicer interiors, they arn't unreliable contrary to popular belief, the AJP8 engine wasn't practical for road use, and owners ended up not warming them up right, but all the other engines the rover V8's and the AJP6 are no less reliable than the next sportscar, the Vette included. Also, we pay less for a TVR offering the same or better performance, and we can't get the Vette in rhd whih is a big no-no to 99%+ or the UK car buying population. Other rivals in th UKwould be Marcos and Noble, though Noble's going a bit more upmarket. Also the Morgan Aero8 will wipe the floor with a C6 vette performance wise, I'd love to see the Z06 in the next series of TopGear, I'd love to see just how much it actually goes on sale over here for. I've seen many different prices, one price I saw was 55k which I can tell you is wrong straight away, thats what we pay for the standard C6 cabriolet. Oh have I mentioed we can get a TVR Sagaris for less than that ;). In the US no other car touches the Vette when it comes to performance for you cash, over here a lot beats it and offers rhd and less plastic at the same time.
 
Also, doesnt the TVR not have ABS or traction control or any computer aids ? for the average driver, a little more hairy than wanted, no ?
 
Wow, I was happy to see this thread revived...then we had to start talking TVR again. :indiff:
 
Yeah, cos I'm online :lol:.


Yes TVR's have no TC or ABS but if you drive them within the speed limits, you shouldn't really need thoes, you can accelerate a Tuscan S to 60 in under 4.5 seconds without the car struggling for grip, you can hit 60 in 3.7, but I'm talking about the everyday driver, the bottom line is,if your driving a 400Bhp+ sportscar your not going to put your foot to the floor wheter it has TCS or not. Besides, TV's are amongst the safest cars in their class should you crash one. The brakes are very good as they are. More recent models, well the Sagaris and T350 range deliver the power cleanly. If you want to drive the car hard, then surely shouldn't you b a good driver pushing a high performance sportcar like a TVR or Z06.

Just going back to TVR's being talked about in this and other Vette threads, look at it this way. You all know how much I like them and rate their value and performance, so surely the fact that me personally a TVR biased Englishman views the Vette as a rivel to them is a credit to the Vette. Like I said many times,if the Vette was 10k less and lhd you'd probably pick between the two on looks alone.
 
Ya it comes down to where you live, if you live in America you buy a Vette and if you live in the UK you buy a TVR. I think we can just drop that comparison.
 
Dyno Graph for a stock 2006 Z06
Source:http://www.lgmotorsports.com/galler...p?album=3&pos=0
Taken from www.gminsidernews.com

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442 horsepower at the rear wheels...not bad.
 
Not really a sad day for SRt-10 owners..
because at the end of the day..

they can have a 1000HP v10 making 1100Ft lbs of torque..

a small block 427 will only get someone so far..

p.s.

The z06 dynoing doesn't really sound all to great..

It doesn't sound like a corvette in the slightest..
it sounds like some ....well..ripoff..

but i guess that's what 11.1:0 and 7000rpm's does..

tsk.tsk
 
Except stock for stock the Z06 is as just as good, if not better then the SRT-10. I would say its better and I've driven both. I've only driven an SRT-10 twice and a Z06 numerous times, I can say I like the feel of the Z06 better. Not to say the SRT-10 is a bad car, but I just think the Z06 is better.

As for the 427, you can make a lot of power with it, in fact you can easily make a 1000+ hp with some proper tuning.

The Corvette sounds fine, you have to rememeber its got OEM exhaust and what not on it not some Flowmasters or something. They make it so its not ungodly loud inside the car.
 
As far as Vipers v Vettes go, all I can say is the stck C6 coupe beat astack SRT-10 round TopGears track and was only 2 seconds slower round the ring. The Z06 should be a lot faster than an SRT-10 stock for stock. As for modding not everyone can afford to buy an SRT-10 then spend so much on it togive it that much power, far more people can afford a stock Z06 and just go faster from the word go.
 
Sorry to dissappoint everyone...

but the z06 video I was talking to..

had LG longtube headers and exhaust..

And sounded like ...well...crap..especially compared to other v8's...


It wasn't OEM..and it sure as hell wasn't "borla"(heaven forbid)


as for Live...I could have sworn, on 5th gear...Well both drivers were fools and too giddy...
and their main focus was which could "powerslide better"
 
Corvette and powerslide? Hell that thing is trickey as all hell to break loose.
 
yeah blazin... Tiff and that guy with the hair....took a SRt-10 and a C6 round a certain corner a bunch of times to see who could slide the best..

Tiff in the C6 and the guy w/ hair in the SRT-10...the SRT-10 made smoke 1st try..

not much angle 2nd..

spun 3rd i believe...

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vette.. nothing 1st

great 2nd..

spun 3rd...

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Oh trust me I know, I've tried to kick the ass out on a C6 coupe and a C6 Z06, no go on either of them...that's some quality traction for you right there.
 
Video courtesy of LG motorsports.

Officially the first tuner of the C6 z06

The car currently has long tube headers, no air filter
and red line fully synthetic racing fluids throughout....

http://media.putfile.com/c6zo6


IMHO..it doesn't sound that great..IT doesn't sound like a big displacement small block to me. It sounds like a big displacement 6 cyl or something...very raspy instead of ...V8'y


And on the start it sounded like a john stall flushing..
 
Funny, I said TopGear not FithGear, two different shows, the lap time was done by a professional racing driver and neither car broke loose into a wild slide. I know of the part your talking about in FithGear. In TopGear Jerremy and James took them for a few laps and they both came to the conclusion that the Vette was a better car and the Viper was terrible but they loved it anyway, then the Stig ran afaster lap in the Vette, the TopGear track exploits handling as much as speed, so it makes sense that the Viper would be a little faster round the ring, lo and behold it was just a couple of seconds faster round th ring.
 
That's the one thing I have never liked about the LS1 - LS7, the sound. I will say they sound amazing with open headers.

Not really a sad day for SRT-10 owners... You're right. Having a car like the '06 Z06 with a lower MSRP, more power, (on average SRT's dyno 430-440 whp) better brakes, and less weight, probably makes new viper owners happy. :lol:
 
Boost Lee
That's the one thing I have never liked about the LS1 - LS7, the sound. I will say they sound amazing with open headers.

Not really a sad day for SRT-10 owners... You're right. Having a car like the '06 Z06 with a lower MSRP, more power, (on average SRT's dyno 430-440 whp) better brakes, and less weight, probably makes new viper owners happy. :lol:
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yeah same HP

the diff is the torque..
The Viper has so much more torque and such more of it in the powerband than the vette..

high RPM HP...I could care less....

gimmie almost 20+ft lbs from an air filter any day..
 
At the end of the day, what car you choose comes down to personal preference, the Vette has it won on price but people who can afford the Viper are going to buy the Viper if they like it more. thats why people buy Ferrari's because they can afford it and want one more, they could care less half the timethat they can get a car for half as much that can go as fast.
 
I was actually about to post that....
Couldn't agree more live..

People who want a viper are going to get a viper..

same goes for people who buy lamborghini's....

When you're going to spend 70,000 or more on a car..
you're not really going to do much "shopping around"...

Chances are you've put some time into making that 70,000...so you KNOW what you're making it for..
 
This is probably the 1000th time something I posted on here was misunderstood, but wtf.

My point is, if you are the owner of a brand new $90,000 Viper, you don't expect a Corvette to be quicker/faster than your car in every sense of the word. I know performance isn't everything (even though we are talking about cars that were built for one purpose - speed) image plays a huge role also. Let's be honest, people are not buying a Viper to look like a pu*sy. They buy a Viper to be the bad mother****er on the block. Unfortunately, now that the new Z06 is on the scene, the Viper is slowly losing that image.

Personal preference, brand loyalty, whatever. I don't care why someone bought this car or that car. I, like every automotive magazine in the world, measure a performance car by it's performance.

I don't want to turn this thread into another lame debate. If someone doesn't understand my post, feel free to pm me where I'll yell at you in caps.
 
live4speed
At the end of the day, what car you choose comes down to personal preference, the Vette has it won on price but people who can afford the Viper are going to buy the Viper if they like it more. thats why people buy Ferrari's because they can afford it and want one more, they could care less half the timethat they can get a car for half as much that can go as fast.
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Hiya! :D :O :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

Well put live4speed! :O 👍

I think that there is something more than just Viper owners and Corvette owners fighting over which car is better. I think it is also something to do with which car would represent America the best IF every nation was to bring out their best performance car to race.

So which is it? Corvettes or Vipers? :odd:

I don't keep myself updated with professional racing, but I am told that the Corvette have the best racing history than the Viper. :O
 
The Corvette has more history and is more of an icon then the Viper. Also the Viper and Vette are so similar its hard to tell which one is better based on numbers...unless you look at the price then the Vette is the better buy.
 

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