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Having been an avid GT Sport player who was getting a bit stalled of the same old same old i decided to try PC2.. Wow, why didn't i try this a couple of years ago!! It feels like a proper driving game where finesse on the pedals is key instead of just mashing them like GTS. Only raced against the bots so far as only U1500... and not too much PS4 based lobbies.... But it's a cracking game.
 
why didn't i try this a couple of years ago!
A couple of years ago you might not have liked it quite so much since there were a few bugs and glitches*. While there are still a few things that could have been looked at before SMS moved on generally after all the patches and all the extra DLC that was added it is as you say a cracking game. :)

* Although I never really encountered any that prevented my enjoyment.

not too much PS4 based lobbies.
The online side of it isn't as well thought out as in GTS, although you can find some decent rooms it's a bit random at times. It's best to join a league or series for more assured quality.
 
Having been an avid GT Sport player who was getting a bit stalled of the same old same old i decided to try PC2.. Wow, why didn't i try this a couple of years ago!! It feels like a proper driving game where finesse on the pedals is key instead of just mashing them like GTS. Only raced against the bots so far as only U1500... and not too much PS4 based lobbies.... But it's a cracking game.

Even with all it's faults and shortcomings it is a great game. It can be a heckuva racing sim as well. Some choose to get frustrated with it's quirks and issues, but most just get on with it and enjoy it for what it does right.

Not sure where you are (in the world) but there are some really good leagues, with some really good guys that race in them.
if you're in the U.S. check out:
Snail [The Lobanaro Lounge] on Monday nights
SRM Tuesday Night Racing
PITS 2 - Thursday night Racing

Some really good options there, and they are all looking for drivers as the game is well over two-years old now. I have raced in all 3 of these leagues and can't go wrong in any, or all of them. Join up and have fun - that's what it's all about!! 👍
 
@Stephen Lloyd,

Welcome to PC2, if you require any help or information about the game then feel free to ask, we're all very helpful here.

Feel free to check out some of my videos for car/track combo inspiration, not looking for subs or anything like that mate, it's just to give you an idea of the crazy stuff you can do in PC2.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3J2i2AzA2rAKPYpGqOB4CA

Just ignore the annoying bits & have fun with the rest of what's available, there is quite a bit of fun to be had.
 
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Welcome over to the dark side. Let the hate flow through you.
Naw just kidding.
One of the problems you're going to find in PC2 is that some of the cars don't drive that great right off the bat. Some do, some don't. It's just how it is.
Here's a guide to help you on some of the symptoms. You might need to make some changes on certain cars.
Have fun.
 

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Cheers guys... i'm uk based so the US leagues might be a problem... Thanks for the tips and the tuning guide. I'll have a play with things. Was running the Bentley GT3 last night and a few tweeks made the world of difference.... Really enjoying this so will keep plugging away.
 
One tip that does help (and this applies to AC as well), with the road cars drop the type pressures by around 4-5 psi on all corners. It's something you need to do in reality and it makes a difference in both PC2 and AC as they both have standard road use pressures on the road cars as default.
 
Cheers guys... i'm uk based so the US leagues might be a problem... Thanks for the tips and the tuning guide. I'll have a play with things. Was running the Bentley GT3 last night and a few tweeks made the world of difference.... Really enjoying this so will keep plugging away.

There is a few about depending if it's just fun race league.
AOR & CRC are just two and the lotus49 is another that you will find in the online section.
 
One tip that does help (and this applies to AC as well), with the road cars drop the type pressures by around 4-5 psi on all corners. It's something you need to do in reality and it makes a difference in both PC2 and AC as they both have standard road use pressures on the road cars as default.

In what ways does this help the most? Exit corner grip (hopefully) - will have to give it a try.
 
In what ways does this help the most? Exit corner grip (hopefully) - will have to give it a try.
Overall grip, so it will help on corner exit, but keep in mind that in both AC and PC2 road cars will be biased towards understeer as that's simply how road cars are set-up in reality.
 
Just bought PC2 as well and I have to say that first impressions are very good! A big issue for me in GTS was playing solo against the AI which is just dreadful. Also not having Monaco or the old Hockenheim layout were little things I missed.

Any suggestions for someone that hasn't even started the career mode?
 
You just have at it. Do some Ginetta Junior runs to get the feel. It's one of those sims where you can't just jump in a Group C or Group 5 car and be successful. Quite the opposite. It took a while to get used to how the game wants you to drive let alone find what car settings are important. PC2 is dependent on tire temps. There's a noticeable swing in performance when you get temps and pressures right.
Start either the Ginetta or the Formula Juniors in the Career and have fun. The karts will frustrate you and you need to redo your FFB settings to drive them because it is obnoxious. Do the karts later with a new career once you get a feel for the drive and settings.
 
Just bought PC2 as well and I have to say that first impressions are very good! A big issue for me in GTS was playing solo against the AI which is just dreadful. Also not having Monaco or the old Hockenheim layout were little things I missed.

Any suggestions for someone that hasn't even started the career mode?

A few things off the top of my head which knowing me turned into a super-long post:

-Don't feel like you have to rush the career until you're somewhat used to the game. It doesn't really have an "easy mode" at the start, just the cars are slower. But there's no reason not to start it. You can always do some other races whenever you like(and you'll want to change things up now and then). The Ginetta Jr is a very forgiving car to start with and more fun than you might think 110mph can be. Some people have trouble making it turn at all but learning how much brake you can use will take you far in this one. The Formula Rookie is a bit more tricky but can teach you some different things.

-If you plan to race karts, keep in mind that there is no practice in career(because no pits) so you'll want to learn to drive them on your own first or you'll be restarting a lot. I don't think they are that difficult with some practice but they are quite different from everything else(and the FFB is wild on them, yes). They also have a few really difficult rain races - puddles seem a lot deeper when your tires are 4 inches high. Every other series I've done has a practice session(except some of the Invitationals).

-Speaking of restarts, don't worry about those stats. There's too many silly things that will happen to take them seriously. Even quitting at the start of qualifying to change difficulty goes on your record, although I'm pretty sure quitting before starting a race does not(not sure about during the formation lap).

-Get used to driving in the wet(with puddles) as you'll do it a lot. Get used to warming up your tires including in cool early spring / late fall weather because it is very important(and in some cars you have to drive pretty hard to get them to where you can start to feel comfortable). Plenty of championships will start early March or late February and end in November so there will be some chilly days.

-Most series at least in the first half of the career(what I've done... it's long if you drive everything) don't have the same driver up front every race so it's not like the fake-ish championships in some other games where you basically have to win every single event. You can make up lots of ground, but of course there's no guarantee and most championships aren't super long - usually 5 races.

-Don't be too attached to a number for AI difficulty. It can vary widely car-to-car and track-to-track, and what is good for the dry may not be good for the wet. In general you can expect the AI to be much faster in qualifying(1-2 seconds) and the race than in practice, but that does not always hold true as their pace can vary quite a lot at the same setting. They also tend in practice and qualifying to run some quick laps early and then drive more relaxed the rest of the session so don't let that fool you.

-There's no easy way to skip around and run championships you missed or re-run your favorites, so you'll want to do all the ones you want in one tier before moving up(you can only go up or down one tier at the end of the year).

Like Beezer215 said, just pick what you like and do it, there's not really any problems you can get stuck on. Most of what you'll need to learn for the career... you can learn in the career. Worst case you'll have to retire from the races to quickly skip through a season you don't want to finish. People here are plenty willing to help if you have questions.
 
Thanks guys! Very good advise.

I run a first quick race with the BMW 320 in Spa (no driving assistance) and it was tough! Very tough! But +600hp and less than 900kg wasn't going to work very well, was it?

Then tried the Clio in Monaco and while the race wasn't the best, I managed 3rd fastest lap. Way more manageable.

I still have to fine tune the wheel and others bits and bobs I want to play with but I'm liking it a lot!
 
Thanks guys! Very good advise.

I run a first quick race with the BMW 320 in Spa (no driving assistance) and it was tough! Very tough! But +600hp and less than 900kg wasn't going to work very well, was it?

Then tried the Clio in Monaco and while the race wasn't the best, I managed 3rd fastest lap. Way more manageable.

I still have to fine tune the wheel and others bits and bobs I want to play with but I'm liking it a lot!


The group 5 cars are fun once you are experienced with the game, but leave them alone for now! The BMW E30 Group A car is superb, has many good liveries and will give great races - especially at the different short layouts of Sakitto.

There is no need to bother with the career at all in this game - it is so much fun to try different cars and find out which ones suit different circuits etc. I've only done a tiny bit of the career as I prefer creating my own races. I always skip practise and qualifying as the A.I. doesn't seem consistent. I run short races with just a few A.I. with me starting at the back and increase the number as I get better. I leave the aggression on 100 and just alter the other setting, but find the A.I. level is very inconsistent from one car to another and one track to another.

A few of my personal favourites which I recommend you try: (great that no grinding is needed!)
Aston DBR1, Ferrari 250 GT
Merc 300 SL
Lotus 25 and 40
BMW E30 Group A
Ford Escort RS 1600 - road and race. BMW 2002 SW
Panoz Esperante - the noise!
Ginetta G40 Junior and GT5, GT4 and GT3.

All the above should be fine on the default loose setting.
 
I've always been a fan of BMW and especially the old ones! That's why the 320 was my first choice but it could have also been the 2002! Haven't seen the 3000csl but have just scanned very quickly... Is it available?
 
Haven't seen the 3000csl but have just scanned very quickly... Is it available?
Unfortunately it's not.
2016 BMW M6 GT3* (GT3)
2016 BMW M6 GTLM* (GTE)
2012 BMW 320 TC (TC)
2012 BMW M3 GT4 (GT4)
2012 BMW Z4 GT3 (GT3)
2011 BMW 1M Stancework Edition (Road D)
2011 BMW 1-Series M Coupe (Road E)
1999 BMW V12 LMR (LMP900)
1991 BMW M3 E30 (Group A)
1981 BMW M1 Procar (Group 4)
1978 BMW 320 Turbo (Group 5)
1973 BMW 2002 Turbo (Road G)
1972 BMW 2002 Stanceworks Edition (Vintage GT B)

It's not a BMW :) but give the Olsberg Supercar Lite a go on tarmac surfaces (it's a Rally Cross car). Not one you'd normally think of trying but it's become my favourite car in the game. The handling is just sublime. 4 wheel drifts, not a problem.


Turn it up :)
I did. You owe me some speakers! :sly:
 
Thanks everyone for your comments, really useful!

Played a bit more with the wheel settings and things are starting to click nicely. Much more drivable but still challenging! Tried the Mégane V6 in Spa and starts too feel right :-)
 
I've been rotating back and forth between PC2 and Forza recently. While I love the 2018 IndyCar configuration on Forza, sadly the PC2 world only has the ugly aero kits with the bumpers on the rear wheels. While I understand that won't be updated anytime soon, I was wondering if there was at least a way to incorporate new liveries? I know you can do it on PC but I'm using XB1 so not sure if it's available on that platform yet.
 
-Most series at least in the first half of the career(what I've done... it's long if you drive everything) don't have the same driver up front every race so it's not like the fake-ish championships in some other games where you basically have to win every single event. You can make up lots of ground, but of course there's no guarantee and most championships aren't super long - usually 5 races.
I've done all the series, and that remains true throughout. 👍 On the other hand, there isn't much to collect/achieve/earn in the career mode besides winning every championship (and regional variations) to fill a list of trophies.
 
I've been rotating back and forth between PC2 and Forza recently. While I love the 2018 IndyCar configuration on Forza, sadly the PC2 world only has the ugly aero kits with the bumpers on the rear wheels. While I understand that won't be updated anytime soon, I was wondering if there was at least a way to incorporate new liveries? I know you can do it on PC but I'm using XB1 so not sure if it's available on that platform yet.
PCARS 2 is dead on consoles update wise so no there isn't a way to incorporate those new indy liveries on the console version unless its done by sms and sms is busy working on pcars 3 right now.
 
PCARS 2 is dead on consoles update wise so no there isn't a way to incorporate those new indy liveries on the console version unless its done by sms and sms is busy working on pcars 3 right now.

Thanks, yea I've just been holding out hope that they will have the new chassis in PC3! A livery design tool would also be fantastic. I wouldn't be made if they even incorporated some older IndyCars either - I loved the Dallara IR 15 chassis so much...
 
Thanks, yea I've just been holding out hope that they will have the new chassis in PC3! A livery design tool would also be fantastic. I wouldn't be made if they even incorporated some older IndyCars either - I loved the Dallara IR 15 chassis so much...

Have you tried the Agajanian Watson Roadster? - feels great at the shortest oval track and very convincing at the Historic Monza oval - just like the real "Race of Two Worlds" held at Monza in the late fifties.
 
Have you tried the Agajanian Watson Roadster? - feels great at the shortest oval track and very convincing at the Historic Monza oval - just like the real "Race of Two Worlds" held at Monza in the late fifties.

Yes it is definitely a fun car to drive, I can only imagine how those guys wheeled those beasts in those days. The sound is absolutely glorious.
 
A few more thoughts after a bit of casual playing:

- Fine tune your wheel to your liking including pedal sensitivity.

- Going straight for a +600hp car may not be the best idea.

- STABLE SETUPS. They do make a difference and can spare you of a lot of frustration.

- Be ready to be annihilated by the AI when you don't really know the circuit (and car!) well enough.

Hope this helps new players like myself!!
 
- Be ready to be annihilated by the AI when you don't really know the circuit (and car!) well enough.

This is so true. Unlike other games where you can just 'wing' it, it's not possible here, but the thing is as long as you realise there no rush, take the time to properly learn the new tracks then it's all good. I've failed at this in the past, tried to learn layouts as quick as possible then struggle like crazy on quali and Race day which then ruins the enjoyment.
 
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- STABLE SETUPS. They do make a difference and can spare you of a lot of frustration.

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Judging by internet talk, a lot of players seem to prefer the Loose setups, or at least believe Loose is designed for wheels and Stable is for controllers. But that's not the case for everybody - it's down to what's comfortable for you. But I'm with you - I usually like the Stable setups too, I've always preferred a car that tends to slow me down a bit over one that tends to try to kill me. Maybe I'm not good enough for oversteer, I don't know... I just go with whatever makes me consistently faster. I rarely have trouble getting the Stable setups to turn though.

But it's a very good idea to try both and then make your adjustments to the one you like. Some cars are setup easier to drive than others, and one or the other setup may suit any given car better for you. The last couple cars I've driven in career(Audi Group A and Porsche Group C) I liked the Loose just as good if not better... and as I recall I found the Loose version of the Formula Rookie much more predictable and actually more stable than Stable.
 
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